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More leaked pics.
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Sig,

When I saw the stainless picture on this thread
I thought, and dismissed what I saw, a turn line
on the cylinder, unusual for a Python or a SAA
for that matter when it is perfectly timed.

Now seeing the bluish version, again a turn line
BUT I don't think it is. It may be a scoring on
the cylinder purposely put there.

I've seen this on a Grant Cunningham gun, a
Ruger, and I believe it is to help the timing and
smooth up the DA pull.

If what I think I saw, or did I see it, and I wonder
if I saw it, then Colt has definitely re-engineered
to an certain extent the Python.

Price and any new engineering will determine how
popular the NEW Python is, or maybe it should be
called the Python Classic.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:38 PM
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"Leaked"??? LOL! If Colt really is going to start building Pythons again, why the coy and bashful act? Why aren't they announcing it far and wide?
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A post from Marlinowners last August...

"We just started today, cutting the forging dies for the new Colt Pythons. Should be about 2 weeks when we start forging the frames. The steel is going to be 17-4PH stainless, VERY tough stuff."
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"Leaked"??? LOL! If Colt really is going to start building Pythons again, why the coy and bashful act? Why aren't they announcing it far and wide?
I suspect they are waiting for the SHOT show in 3 weeks and a cover picture on every gun magazine.

Do you think its a hoax?
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I suspect they are waiting for the SHOT show in 3 weeks and a cover picture on every gun magazine.
I suspect you are 99% correct. Trouble is targeting "hard core" Colt's purists. I don't think there are enough to rescue them from yet another fiscal hole they have engineered for the company. $1,000; $1295? Maybe be real competition for a very limited market ($800-$1K Rugers, $1K-$1600 SW's). $2400 to start, not happening for me. Joe
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Haha! Keep it up, and I’ll keep buying those “out of time” Colts!
And as long you don't shoot them over 2-3 times they'll stay in time ya.
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Old 12-28-2019, 12:23 AM
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Anyone got a lead on the actual prices for these?
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I seriously doubt that. Anyone that REALLY shoots a Pyhton instead of locking it away and bragging on it knows better. It doesn't take a whole lot of rounds to get out of time. The second leg on the hand will push the cyl into lockup when you pull the trigger when the timing goes bad. Mine has gone out of time twice. Both times I removed the hand and stretched (peened the sides) to bring it back into time. 50 years with S&W and I've never had to do that.
I have thousands of rounds through my 1979 Python that I bought new. It's tight as a drum and perfectly in time, even when cocked glacier slow. There are no absolutes, and I never trust statements that indicate absolutes, like all Pythons, or most Pythons, go out of time.
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And as long you don't shoot them over 2-3 times they'll stay in time ya.
I shoot mine quite often. Still in time.
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Old 12-28-2019, 12:32 AM
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Do you think its a hoax?
I don't know; I was asking why Colt would try to keep it secret rather than announcing it.
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These Colts of mine are from the 1910's and 20's and the Army Special and Police Positive Special have seen a lot of hard use. All three function perfectly.
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Well, it does look a lot like a Python, but not exactly like a classic Python.
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My son sent phone pics. Looks just like the old ones except with dark laminated grips.
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I hope Colt introduces 3 new revolvers this year and Taurus and Ruger and Webley and anyone else who will. I like revolvers and competition breeds excellence....................
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The '78 vintage Python here has remained in time.

Now, that's what we need; a new Webley revolver. I could go for that.
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I know that a Colt will maintain a higher "resale value" but my guns are not inventory. Does a Colt put a 357 round downrange any better than an S&W? Does a Colt improve the terminal velocity of a 357 round? Will a maintained Colt be operating after the equivalent maintained S&W no longer functions? This hobby is very much about everyone getting what they like, but, given the pricing differential, I am glad that I like S&Ws.
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There's a gun shop in Penn taking reservations - $1400 so it's not out of my price range.
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here is a bigger leaked picture, not the same frame as an original Python, the hammer looks shorter and I am willing to bet most of the internals will be MIM. Oh, and that isn't a "Royal Blue" finish either, if Colt offers that again, it might be a while.
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I have owned 4 original Pythons, 2 Troopers and 1 Detective Special back when they were being made. I can also work on them, so very familiar with the internal lockworks. I think the Python is the best looking revolver ever made. None of my Pythons would hold up to being used for competition. Back then, I was shooting around 30,000 .38 Specials and 3000 or so .357 Mag. per season.

The M19 I had then ran fine for 3 years of that diet. The forcing cone on that one never cracked (pretty amazing). The Pythons at their best never had as good an action as any of my S&W guns, all with action jobs. Out of the box, the Python actions were better than S&W actions for smoothness and lightness (2 different things). The Trooper actions were heavy and clunky. The D/S was the best of the lot, wish I still had it.

I shot M10s built into PPC guns a lot, their forcing cones always cracked between 50,000 and 100,000 rounds of bunny fart wadcutters. Once the L frames came on the scene, I switched over to them and never looked back. The 586 and 686 have served me very well for many years.

Pythons are cool guns to look at, but S&W ones are better for shooting a lot.
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It's good to see more revolvers being made, whoever makes them. I'm getting a bit tired of all the plastic fantastic's.
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I heard msrp of about $1500...
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Hope it’s proudly emblazoned with the QR codes that the new cobras have:



How elegant!

LOL!!! A really nice touch on a fine revolver
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Check out Gunbroker - there is one up to $1925 with 14 bids and another at $1600 with 9 bids - and a couple others as well.

Dealers will jump on the 'bandwagon' and sell their stock (what they get - if any) online for much higher than MSRP OR keep one, frame it and hang it on the wall with some ridiculous price on it.

These will most likely never end up as a typical 'stock' item for any dealer with one in the cabinet and 'Two in the back room'.

If they do it will be few and far between and price will always be at or higher than MSRP. Someone who has wanted a Python will gladly pay $1500 or more for a new one over the average $2500 or more for a 'used' one.

Colt is well aware of the market and will most likely limit production to ensure sales of all the guns they make as opposed to overproducing and having too many 'out there'. They want to keep the demand up. This is an 'old' story with Colt.
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Yep, they may keep production limited, a custom shop sort of a thing like they did at the end of the original Python production. Keeps the prices high and maximizes profit for them and dealers.
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The things being seen on line right now are not encouraging for the resurrected Python.

The same issues...light primer strikes, cylinders failing to turn, etc are showing up....and are growing.

Colt might have released this revolver in a big hurry and failed to work the bugs out...or simply didn't care. In either case, QC seems to be an issue. I have heard similar results involving the Cobra as well.

While I'm glad to see Colt back in the wheelgun business, I'm afraid the Colt most of us knew decades back is gone for good.
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Went to my LGS, but they didn't have any yet. They did have a 3", 629 that was really pretty, and $500 less than the Colt. I'm thinking hard on this one.
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