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Old 12-24-2019, 07:53 PM
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Guys this afternoon I got “Lil Toony”, my Enfield P61 musketoon, to the range:



Shot great! Fun little weapon shooting a big .577” 475 gr. minie bullets:



Awesome little wicked muzzleloading carbine. I love it! And don’t worry, I didn’t try and blast Rudolph as he flew by on the test runs!

Merry Christmas, all!!

-Jay

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Old 12-24-2019, 09:50 PM
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Good looking!
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Very cool!

With your love of BP, have you ever thought of scaled down replicas of muzzle loading cannons or field pieces? Like the ones that shoot golf ball sized balls, or a bit smaller?

The larger sizes are neat, but waaay above my pay grade. So, I watch those on YouTube. You do have plenty of desert to play in.

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Very cool!

With your love of BP, have you ever thought of scaled down replicas of muzzle loading cannons or field pieces? Like the ones that shoot golf ball sized balls, or a bit smaller?

The larger sizes are neat, but waaay above my pay grade. So, I watch those on YouTube. You do have plenty of desert to play in.

Rob
Why mess with miniature cannons, Dixie Gun Works sells full size that use pop cans (full of concrete) as projectiles!

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JayFramer, who built your musketoon? I have one built by Parker-Hale.
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JayFramer, who built your musketoon? I have one built by Parker-Hale.
It’s a Parker Hale.

These are considered the best reproduction muskets ever made. They were made in Birmingham, England, on the original Enfield musket tooling and gauges from the 1850s-1860s. Not only that, they feature the original “progressive depth” rifling of the originals, something no other repro musket has ever had. This is where the rifling is deeper at the breach and gradually become more shallow at the muzzle. This is beneficial as it allows an undersized Minie ball to properly obturate for the best accuracy possible.

Modern reproductions like the Pedersolis and Armi Sports lack this feature, to their detriment. Indeed, these Parker Hale reports (long out of production) are considered by many to be as good if not better than the genuine article, yet shooting them does not damage a historical original.
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Very cool!

With your love of BP, have you ever thought of scaled down replicas of muzzle loading cannons or field pieces? Like the ones that shoot golf ball sized balls, or a bit smaller?

The larger sizes are neat, but waaay above my pay grade. So, I watch those on YouTube. You do have plenty of desert to play in.

Rob
I’m sure those are neat but it’s kind of a bit pointless and impractical. I prefer to shoot guns with a historical precedence to them so the miniature cannons, while nifty, don’t really float my boat.
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Way cool! Shooting as an artform.
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It’s a Parker Hale.

These are considered the best reproduction muskets ever made. They were made in Birmingham, England, on the original Enfield musket tooling and gauges from the 1850s-1860s. Not only that, they feature the original “progressive depth” rifling of the originals, something no other repro musket has ever had. This is where the rifling is deeper at the breach and gradually become more shallow at the muzzle. This is beneficial as it allows an undersized Minie ball to properly obturate for the best accuracy possible.

Modern reproductions like the Pedersolis and Armi Sports lack this feature, to their detriment. Indeed, these Parker Hale reports (long out of production) are considered by many to be as good if not better than the genuine article, yet shooting them does not damage a historical original.
I was skirmishing with the N-SSA when the Parker-Hales came out. I lusted over them for years. I was able to buy all three-the three band 1853 rifle musket, the two band 1858 Naval rifle and the 1861 musketoon while I was working overseas

One correction: the P-Hs were built using modern tooling, but a set of original Enfield gauges were obtained for use in their construction.
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I was skirmishing with the N-SSA when the Parker-Hales came out. I lusted over them for years. I was able to buy all three-the three band 1853 rifle musket, the two band 1858 Naval rifle and the 1861 musketoon while I was working overseas

One correction: the P-Hs were built using modern tooling, but a set of original Enfield gauges were obtained for use in their construction.
Oh! I see! Very cool regardless.
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