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View Poll Results: What Subcompact do you carry or would rather carry if given a chance?
Any Subcompact 1911 (any brand, model, or caliber) 15 7.21%
Beretta APX Carry 1 0.48%
Beretta Nano 0 0%
Beretta Pico 1 0.48%
Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact 2 0.96%
CZ 2075 Rami (including BD) 8 3.85%
CZ P-10 S 0 0%
FNH 509 Compact (which is really a subcompact) 1 0.48%
FNH FNS 9 or 40 Compact (which are really subcompacts) 2 0.96%
Glock 26, 27, 33, 39 (traditional Baby Glocks, any generation or variety) 14 6.73%
Glock 29, 30 (larger subcompacts, any generation or variety) 8 3.85%
Glock 42, 43, 43X, 48, 36 (Slimline Subcompacts) 19 9.13%
HK P2000SK 3 1.44%
HK P30SK 2 0.96%
HK VP9SK 2 0.96%
Kahr (other subcompacts) 15 7.21%
Kahr CM9 6 2.88%
Kahr CW380 2 0.96%
KelTec (any variety of subcompact) 11 5.29%
Mossberg MC1SC 0 0%
Other subcompact pistol 13 6.25%
Other subcompact revolver 3 1.44%
Ruger American Compact (which is really a subcompact) 1 0.48%
Ruger EC9s 2 0.96%
Ruger LC380 3 1.44%
Ruger LC9s 4 1.92%
RUGER LCP (including the LCP II) 15 7.21%
Ruger LCR (including LCRx) 7 3.37%
Ruger Security 9 Compact (which is really a subcompact) 1 0.48%
Ruger SR Compact (any caliber or variety) 2 0.96%
S&W J-frame (any variety) 68 32.69%
S&W M&P Bodyguard 380 8 3.85%
S&W M&P Shield (any caliber or variety) 35 16.83%
S&W M&P Subcompact (any caliber or variety including the original "compact" [i.e. M&P9c) 15 7.21%
SIG P239 or P938 (any variety) 17 8.17%
SIG P320 or P250 Subcompact (any variety) 5 2.40%
SIG Sauer P365 (including SAS & XL) 40 19.23%
Springfield Armory Hellcat (including SP model) 3 1.44%
Springfield Armory XD (any caliber or variety) 1 0.48%
Springfield Armory XD-E (any caliber or variety) 2 0.96%
Springfield Armory XDs (any caliber or variety) 4 1.92%
Taurus Subcompact (any variety of pistol or revolver) 4 1.92%
Walther P99c or other P99-based Subcompact Varient 1 0.48%
Walther PPK or PPK/S 15 7.21%
Walther PPQ Subcompact 4 1.92%
Walther PPS M1 or M2 7 3.37%
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Out of all these subcompact firearms listed, what do you carry now, or, given the chance, what would you prefer to carry that you're not carrying already? You can select more than one.

I know there are many pistols I didn't list, but there are too many, so please leave comments offering specifics about what you carry or would like to carry.

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Whoo! Lots of options there.

The only one on the list I've carried is the J-frame, specifically my 642s.

I've been wanting a good pocket .380, and I've been interested in the Ruger LCP (not the LCP II) and the Beretta Pico as they're both hammer-fired DAO guns, but I wouldn't rule out the Kahr .380 just because it's striker-fired.

You listed the Sig P239, which seems a bit large for subcompact, but it is a gun I would like to own. Somewhat similar in size is the Kahr P9, another gun I've considered getting. I've been intrigued in the SA XDe, if it's the compact DA/SA decocker 9mm single-stack, especially LTT started offering their modified version. I would love to get a good single-stack 9mm.

As much as I like my PX4 Compact, the Subcompact doesn't really interest me. While I like Glocks, the only one that interests me is the 19.
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Sorry, I meant SIG P238
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Whoo! Lots of options there.

The only one on the list I've carried is the J-frame, specifically my 642s.

I've been wanting a good pocket .380, and I've been interested in the Ruger LCP (not the LCP II) and the Beretta Pico as they're both hammer-fired DAO guns, but I wouldn't rule out the Kahr .380 just because it's striker-fired.

You listed the Sig P239, which seems a bit large for subcompact, but it is a gun I would like to own. Somewhat similar in size is the Kahr P9, another gun I've considered getting. I've been intrigued in the SA XDe, if it's the compact DA/SA decocker 9mm single-stack, especially LTT started offering their modified version. I would love to get a good single-stack 9mm.

As much as I like my PX4 Compact, the Subcompact doesn't really interest me. While I like Glocks, the only one that interests me is the 19.
That's funny, I agree with everything you just said. I even have a PX4 Storm Compact and have no interest in the subcompact which is too large in my opinion to be a subcompact, but that's what they call it.

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I carry a first gen LC9 and prefer it over an LC9s or EC9s.
I like the long revolver-like trigger pull of the hammer-fired version better than the shorter, lighter trigger pull of the striker fired version. I also don't like bladed triggers.

Of the other guns listed the only one I don't already have and haven't carried, but that I'd really like to try as a CCW, is the Sig P365. I know it is striker-fired but the ones I've handled seemed to have the longer, more even trigger pull like a revolver or my LC9, and they don't have a bladed trigger either.
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I carry a first gen LC9 and prefer it over an LC9s or EC9s
I prefer a DA for carrying, and I like the long revolver-like trigger pull of the hammer-fired version better than the shorter, lighter trigger pull of the striker fired version. I also don't like bladed triggers.

Of the other guns listed the only one I don't already have and haven't carried but that I'd really like to try as a CCW is the sig P365. I know it is striker-fired but the one's I've handled seemed to have the longer, more even trigger pull like a revolver or my LC9, and they don't have a bladed trigger either.
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Sorry, I meant SIG P238
Oops, guess I have to withdraw my P239 vote. I still think it should be on there. Heck, I even have a Mika pocket holster for it, though it’s mainly cargo short pocket carry
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Glock 27 for a long time. Carries easily all day long, reliable & makes big holes in things. I've never felt the need to change to a different Subcompact although I may pick up a G 26 one day if I come across a good deal.
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I voted "Other" because the Colt Mustang isn't on the list. How could you miss it?
They're great little guns. I've carried an XSP Model on my daily exercise walks for years.
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I carry both a Walther PPK/S and a Ruger LCP.

I would also carry a Ruger LC9/EC9s, Ruger SR40c, and a S&W M&P45 Shield if I owned any of them.
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The Ruger Security 9 Compact is my EDC. It's what I prefer.
10+, accurate, reliable, easily concealed and light weight...and it was priced right.

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Sorry, I meant SIG P238
Count me as someone who is considering carrying a Sig P238.

So far I've been carrying j frames.
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My vote is "other", as I carry a Diamondback DB9. It is the flattest and slimmest, most compact 9mm that I have handled, and it has a high grip/low bore axis. It is only a 6 shot magazine (+1 in the chamber) but that contributes to its smallness. Unfortunately there is no slide lock. Remarkably inexpensive, often under $200. DB9ODG – Diamondback Firearms

Second choice is the Kel-Tec family with the PF-9 my pick.


*edit* Hmmm, just did some Googling and it appears that there is a Diamondback DB9 Gen 4 in the works that includes a slide stop. MSRP $269. Diamondback DB9 GEN 4 Review - A Must Have Update

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I just looked at the poll results again. 93 people have responded and a little over 61% carry a S&W. While I am one of them, I think the poll (or at least this crowd) is a little bias! But then again, bias polls make the ^ O'clock new all the time!

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I see Kahrs are doing pretty good.
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Been carrying my gen 1 Shield 9mm for years now. I have been considering carrying my gen 1 9c, as it's not much larger and carries 4 more rounds. Always good to have different choices :-)
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I have a Colt Mustang Pocket Lite .380 and a S&W337PD ...... for those rare times I can't carry my Smith 3913NL
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Springfield Armory EMP 3.

It's an incredible piece of flawless art.

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After almost 40 years of a 2" J Frame, the Sig P365 is now my EDC choice. While the Chief's Special served me well, at less weight, a smaller package and more than double the rounds (5 vs 11 without a reload) plus the fact that the new 9's are really good SD rounds, it's a no brainer to me.

The bonus is that the P365 has way less recoil with +P's, much better sights (night sights) is more accurate and faster to reload!! I find myself practicing with the P365 a lot more than I ever did with the Chief's Special. I can easily shoot 200 rounds in a day with absolutely no pain or discomfort when I go home. So far I've got just shy of 2,000 rounds through the P365 with no malfunctions.

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The only Chiefs Special that weighs less than the P365 are the Airweights. Steel CS’s weigh just as much or more than a 10 shot 365 and some more than a 12 shot 365.
If weight and capacity matter, 5 vs 10 or 12, no brainer for me, the difference is negligible.
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I've gone back and forth between my Shield 45 and my 1.0 M&P 40c (.357 SIG conversion) as my EDC. The 40c usually gets the nod due to its three extra rounds. If I carry the Shield, I'll take a spare magazine. Both are accurate and reliable. I know the 1.0 M&P compacts are a bit large for a lot of people, but I'm a heavy guy, so the extra weight doesn't mean that much to me. But for those who can shoot a .45, the Shield 45 may be the best carry pistol there is. It's easily carried, has a decent 7+1 capacity, and it's amazingly accurate.

I also have a Shield 9, but its accuracy suffers badly in comparison to the 45, and in my case, its reliability has been sketchy. It is now a safe queen.

I've looked at other carry guns from time to time, but so far I've not found one that's an improvement over what I already have. So thanks to Smith & Wesson for giving me two excellent choices.
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I didn't realize I could vote for more than one, or I would have included a J-frame.
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I chose other semi. Currently I carry a Kimber Micro 380. If I feel the need for something bigger I carry my Sig P229
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I have carried alot of these and usually (including currently) seems to go back to an airweight J frame. Either my 642 or 638. I just like feel really comfortable in DAO as a self defense deterrent without having to worry about controls. I was carrying a Sig 938 for quite awhile. The longer i carried it the less comfortable I was with the 1911 setup for civilian self defense. A "Horse for every saddle"!! J frames are time tested.
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‘Rounding the final turn and into the homestretch, it’s the “J’s” in the lead by three lengths!
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I was surprised that the S&W CS models in any caliber were not listed. I had to vote for my Walther PPS40 which is only worn when I wear a suit or blazer.









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I prefer DA/SA decockers so I love my CZ RAMI BD but it's just a wee chubby for pocket-carry which for me is the most practical for light summer clothing in FL.

It's really hard to find a micro-sized DA/SA decocker so I recently added a 3rd Gen CS9 and I'm having some Tercgen grips made to allow flatter pocket carry. Still a bit bigger than I wish but it checks most of the boxes.

I really like the size, capacity and shoot-ability of my SIG P365 but I'm still not confident pocket-carrying a 5-1/2 lb trigger, even pocket holstered. Maybe I'm over-thinking it.
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I would like to shoot/carry a J-frame Smith, but I find the recoil excessive and affecting accuracy for me. I have to put large rubber grips on it makes carrying concealed problematical. I carry either a Sig 365 for defense or a PPK for nostalgia.
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Glock 43 in a TecGrip pocket holster. Glocks are just tools, but they keep on keeping on. And I sure don't collect Glocks as a hobby.
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I have carried a number of compact or sub-compact pistols over the years. You didn't include mouse guns so I am ignoring the .25s I have carried.

J frames are a typical EDC choice for me; I got off the 642 because the 649 is hardly more noticeable and it shoots miles and miles better.

I also carry snubby K frames but that's a little chunkier in the weight game for a compact. Steel CS pistols are a little chunkier, too, but I used to carry one routinely.

I am uncertain whether or not a Walther CCP is in the P99 category or not but I guessed it might be sufficiently related. Had you included the CCP I would have checked it - I really like that gun.





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When I carry a "sub" compact, it is either a gen 1 S&W M&P9c or the Walther PPS mod 2. I shoot both guns well and have been pleasantly surprised how well the Walther points an how well I shoot it. I carry the S&W more often just because the holster for the Smith is more comfortable than the one for the Walther.
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