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Old 01-14-2020, 08:55 PM
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i plan to get the 4” model. I alway wanted one but never wanted to pay collector value. im just not enough of a Colt fan for that. FWIW, I saw the distributor screen at my lgs and dealer cost for both guns was $1249.

I think this is a big step in the right direction for Colt and hopefully others will follow suite. Paying attention to what the market wants is a good thing. I really hope this reintroduction is successful for them.
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I pre ordered a 4.25" version today at the MSRP price, but with taxes it came out to $1,604.99.

They said they had 20 orders in front of me, but people had been cancelling orders. I hope it's not gonna be like waiting for a ATF tax stamp.

And yep...I know if I waited a year I could have saved a couple hundred, but I might be dead in a year.
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Well, after watching the Hickok 45 Video, (I don't bother to watch anyone else's gun video's), I still want one. If it has a problem, I'll send it back and get it fixed. Not the end of the world. I'm not going to use it to hold off hordes of zombies or Martians. It's to be a range "toy" and that's about it.
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IIRC Hackathorn (sp?) in his Colt info-videos made note that with the new Pythons, you couldn't let your trigger finger ride the trigger until reset. His recommendation was to completely let off the trigger; failure to do so resulted in some unspecified difficulties. He also said that S&W's trigger reset was much typically stronger and superior to the new Python.

So....I'm wondering if HK45's (and bubba's) cylinder rotation failures may have been caused by incomplete trigger resets. I've not handled one of the new Pythons, I've got no clue regarding their internal design, and I'm certainly not disparaging HK45's pistol acumen, but this possibility kind of makes sense to me.

Regardless, I'm going ahead and ordering one of the new Pythons. Recently, having suffered through the Ruger Mk4 safety recall (and firing pin cracking), also the Sig P210A recoil spring assembly discombobulation, color me a hopeless new gun optimist I guess. -S2

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I appreciate the early-birds getting them first and perhaps Colt will get the bugs out.
Think I will wait on the 'Deputy Rick Package' though.
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IIRC Hackathorn (sp?) in his Colt info-videos made note that with the new Pythons, you couldn't let your trigger finger ride the trigger until reset. His recommendation was to completely let off the trigger; failure to do so resulted in some unspecified difficulties. He also said that S&W's trigger reset was much typically stronger and superior to the new Python.

So....I'm wondering if HK45's (and bubba's) cylinder rotation failures may have been caused by incomplete trigger resets. I've not handled one of the new Pythons, I've got no clue regarding their internal design, and I'm certainly not disparaging HK45's pistol acumen, but this possibility kind of makes sense to me...
Re-watch Hicock45's videos and you'll see very clearly he isn't short-stroking -- in fact, at one point his finger isn't even touching the trigger and he's cocking the hammer repeatedly but the cylinder doesn't move.
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i watched a video on youtube of a colt rep talking about the redesign and how sensitive they were to the subject of trigger quality. It would seem in an effort to offer what most would deem an excellent double action pull, they ended up a bit too light on all the springs. Just my guess though. Should be an easy correction if thats the case.
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This is why you never buy anything within the first year of production.
May sound like good advice, but, if everyone actually followed that advice then nothing would ever sell. If no one bought something on it's first year out then it's unlikely there would be a second year. A manufacturer is certainly not going to continue to produce something that does not sell. Even if they did continue to make them the problems would not show up until people started buying them the next year....

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I really don't know Scott, but that made me quit watching his clip. There is already enough video clips out there with poor handling of firearms without having another posted as a "review" that shows an unintentional, unaimed discharge downrange while the idiot posting it was paying attention to the video camera rather than his loaded weapon.

EDIT: and Texas Star, the strain screw thing would have been something I might have suggested too. But I also don't own any Colt revolvers and don't know them at all either. But I might consider one of these new Pythons though, after they work the bugs out. I think they are quite good looking and they don't have that ugly hole in the left side of the frame either.
I appreciate your comment about the strain screw. After that exchange I took the grip off my Python to see what the difference was. I suppose I should have done that a long time ago, but I've never changed grips on my Colts and just assumed all revolvers had a similar spring system. Now I have learned something new, so exposing myself to a little ridicule wasn't that bad.

I am a diehard S&W revolver guy, and only acquired my Python and 3-5-7 as comparison to my S&W's. Turned out they are great guns and I will probably never sell them; however, up until now I had no intention to buy another Colt. The curiosity is killing me and I will probably end up with a 4.25" this Fall.
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I’m not a snake fan but I see the attraction. If you had a classic that everyone is wanting and paying big bucks for, why would you come out with a new one that’s just a little bit different?
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Hopefully no one was surprised at these problems showing up. Pretty much everything coming out of Colt in the past 10 years (probably more) has been near-junk. It's not unusual for guns to have severe issues, whether it's the new revolvers or the 1911s they've been producing.
Interesting, I've bought 4 Colt 1911's in the last ten years and all have been perfect. My last two a combat elite and competition are incredibly accurate and function flawlessly. My only improvement would be on the triggers but what factory 1911 can't benefit from that? Sorry but yours is just an ignorant comment.
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I appreciate your comment about the strain screw. After that exchange I took the grip off my Python to see what the difference was. I suppose I should have done that a long time ago, but I've never changed grips on my Colts and just assumed all revolvers had a similar spring system. Now I have learned something new, so exposing myself to a little ridicule wasn't that bad.

I am a diehard S&W revolver guy, and only acquired my Python and 3-5-7 as comparison to my S&W's. Turned out they are great guns and I will probably never sell them; however, up until now I had no intention to buy another Colt. The curiosity is killing me and I will probably end up with a 4.25" this Fall.

I hope that you will eventually realize that, regardless of brand, you should be periodically removing the grips to clean under them and leave a thin film of oil there.

Many used guns have rust under the grips. This is especially common on guns with rubber grips, which hold moisture that wood grips may absorb.

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I hope that you will eventually realize that, regardless of brand, you should be periodically removing the grips to clean under them and leave a thin film of oil there.

Many used guns have rust under the grips. This is especially common on guns with rubber grips, which hold moisture that wood grips may absorb.
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I'm not that knowledgeable regarding Colt's...but TBH the good looks combined with the mere absence of an IL makes me want one for my next new revolver purchase. I had an idea the other day that the new Python is nothing more than a King Cobra Target with a vented rib. Is it true that the rest of the gun...and the internals are identical? My point I guess is why pay an extra $500 when a 4" King Cobra Target does the same thing?
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I am thrilled that the Python has been released again. So much so that I just sold a Rifle that was dear to me to finance mine. I have the means to purchase a new Python, but the dealers on GB are scalping the Price almost 1K over the $1499 List. I saw the same thing when I purchased my new model Cobra. I waited about 6 months until the Bloodsuckers couldn't sell them for ridicules profits, and got mine for a fair price. I will do the same thing with the new Python. I wonder if there may be an Anaconda in the works.

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That must be why owners of 1935 Registered Magnums and 1955 S&W .44 Magnums are so sorry they own them.

If I see a 4" one for sale, I'll definitely check it out.
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In the world of marketing, consumers are grouped into several different categories, one of the most important being a group called "Early Adopters". They tend to create opinions which rapidly spread among the larger population and propel trends. Early adopters seem to be compelled to partake of new products and ideas and care about being ahead of the pack. They are essential as without them, a new product or idea is unlikely to be successful.

Early adopters are similar to "Opinion Leaders" but not quite the same. Opinion leaders are often (but not necessarily) prominent individuals such as professional sports figures, entertainment stars, etc., who may get paid for endorsing new products and ideas.

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