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Old 01-10-2020, 11:36 AM
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Just arrived in my collection. A Glisenti model 1889/1922. Actualy the revolver is made by Castelli. Caliber is 10.4. Condition is great.

The revolver has a so called Abadie safety feature. When de loading gate is open the sear in the hammer is pushed backwards.

So, when you pull the trigger only the cilinder will rotate. The hammer will not cock at all. This device is also to unload the revolver.

You can turn the cilinder with the trigger and with the other hand use the ejectorrod. It is a very sturdy made revolver.

The lock is a so called warnant lock. Almost the same what you will find in a Colt Python. But the trigger pull is not that silck as the good old snake.
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I believe the case is the same as 44 S&W Russian. The loadings of those old rounds were all about the same, but some countries wand heavier or lighter bullets, and varied the powder charge to match. Just about anything that will chamber will shoot close to the sights at 25 yards or closer. Have fun!

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Old 01-10-2020, 05:20 PM
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Has that Nagant look.
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Nice find. Thanks for sharing.

When I saw that Abadie gate-loading system on the Swiss Schmidt Model 1882, I thought it was genius.

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Old 01-10-2020, 05:33 PM
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It is . But it was first at the so called what a suprise Abadie revolver from Portugal.
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Bummer. The Nagant was 1895
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It is . But it was first at the so called what a suprise Abadie revolver from Portugal.
Hadn't heard of that one. I like that it was 9.1mm. Do you have one of those also?
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I like it Thuer. Not particularly graceful, but historically interesting and charming as an example of what was going on in different countries with double action revolver design around the turn of the 20th century. I have a Swiss Ordonnanzrevolver Modell 1882 revolver that also has the Abadie device. It's simple but effective for quick unloading and reloading for a non-swing out cylinder design.
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Not yet. Bigwheelzip
here is a picture of the French model 1892 lock. It has also the Abadie safety. Aldo it is a revolver with a swingout cilinder. It is now a real safetydevice.
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Nice find. Thanks for sharing.

When I saw that Abadie gate-loading system on the Swiss Schmidt Model 1882, I thought it was genius.

That's some mighty nice straw on the M82!
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Here is a Swedish M1887 Nagant action for comparison. The action is very similar to the Swiss revolver and a few of its contemporaries but it does not have the Abadie device.
The device can be seen just behind the hand on bigwheelzip's example and Thuer's French Mle. 1892. As you can see, these guns have a pretty simple but fairly robust design although I don't know if the V spring is prone to breakage. Even if it was, it can be replaced very easily and without tools other than a screwdriver to swing open as in the case of the Swiss, or totally remove the sideplate. They sure won't rival an S&W M&P for smoothness or weight of pull though !
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Here are pictures of my Italian Ordnance Model 1889 (aka Bodeo), caliber 10.4mm.

Note the folding trigger, which I think is cool!

More info can be found here... Bodeo Model 1889 - Wikipedia
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Here is a picture of the lockwork. The side plate can be removed, and the lockwork dis-assembled, without any tools. The red arrow points to the thumbscrew that is used to release the side plate.

I hand load ammo for mine, using 152 grain (IIRC) wad cutter home cast bullets and Trail Boss powder.

Notice the cases are slightly bottlenecked. I make cases from 44-40, NOT .44 Russian (which are smaller in the case head area)...
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Folding trigger! The variations of innovation coming to market a century ago are so interesting.

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Folding trigger! The variations of innovation coming to market a century ago are so interesting.

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Colt had a folding trigger in 1836!
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Colt had a folding trigger in 1836!
You guys have such great pieces. Thanks y'all for sharing.
Closest I have to classic is a late model 1892 lever rifle.

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^^^ PICS PLEASE!!!!
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^^^ PICS PLEASE!!!!
Who, me? My 24" Rossi 92 in .357 isn't in the same league as our European members handgun acquisition, and too far adrift.
I sure love learning about the oldies youse guys have though.

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