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Being a huge fan of big hunks of steel revolvers, here are two of my favorites.
1924 Mfg .45 LC 7 1/2" & a 1917 45 acp Military. These are the guns you want to have if you run out of ammo.... You still have a pretty good CLUB in your hand !
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I'm a N-frame S&W guy, but a friend collects New Service and Colt 1917's. He complains the back of the trigger guard raps him in the meddle and ring fingers on every shot in all the big bores! I gave him a grip adapter, but he just shoots the 18 N-Frames he owns instead! (4 Triple Locks and 7 or 8 1926's, and on and on)

I had the same knuckle problem with the one New Service I owned in 45 Colt! I never tried Goodyear's or grip adapters. Are your stag grips stock dimensions or do they fill the larger hand better?

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I have several New Services, also .45 Colt and .45 ACP, haven't had any knuckle rapping problems with standard service grips.
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Only have one; my Dad's .357, 6 inch that took a trip out to King's in 1939.......... you're right one big hunk of steel and ..... a great family heirloom.
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Nice, I'm a fan too!
I wouldn't refer to the plural as New Services or New Servi;
I'd call them Colt New Service revolvers.

I have several and would love to own more!

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I'm a N-frame S&W guy, but a friend collects New Service and Colt 1917's. He complains the back of the trigger guard raps him in the meddle and ring fingers on every shot in all the big bores! I gave him a grip adapter, but he just shoots the 18 N-Frames he owns instead! (4 Triple Locks and 7 or 8 1926's, and on and on)

I had the same knuckle problem with the one New Service I owned in 45 Colt! I never tried Goodyear's or grip adapters. Are your stag grips stock dimensions or do they fill the larger hand better?

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I don't recall any pain when I shoot my New Service revolvers. My stag grips are a bit plumper and more "contoured" than factory size. Knuckle rapping could be due to big "ham hands" or how the grip is held.
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I have only one but it's a nice one in 44/40. Haven't had any problems getting my knuckles rapped, but I have fairly small hands too.



It pairs nicely with this old Winchester 1892, also in44/40:

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One of my first handguns was a M-1917 in really nice condition. I got it when I was 16, for Christmas, I think. My father paid $16.88 at a dept. store.But money was worth more then and large amounts of surplus guns were flooding the market.

I've also owned a commercial .45 Colt, made about 1936, also in top condition. It shot to the sights, which Colts often don't, and hit 25 yard targets dead center with Remington 250 grain ammo. Groups were about as small as I could shoot with my six-inch Python, but of course, the holes were bigger.

I had no problem with service grips, walnut in both cases. But I don't have fat hands, although they're otherwise fairly large for my 5' 10 " 165 pound body. I also don't get hammer bite from Colt .45 and Browning 9mm autos, or from a Walther PP .32.

I traced the rounded cylinder release to about 1928. My later .45 had it. I wrote a short story in FanFiction.net in which a hero had a New Service .45. The story was set in 1928, with a sequel in 1929. In the first, he had walnut grips, but by 1929, had replaced them with ivory from an elephant that he shot. The gun was new when bought in 1928.

I doubt if readers cared, but I like to be precise and have guns fit the story and imagine them in use as I write. Anyway, I was curious to see when the cylinder release changed, so I looked it up. It was just in time for that story!

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My one and only Colt M1917 was an oddball. When I bought it about 35 years ago, it was in high condition but completely in the white (not rusted), no evidence anywhere that it had ever been blued. I never could come up with a good reason to explain why. About 10 years ago I hot blued it myself, it looks much better.
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I have 2- a .45 ACP reworked 1917 frame that was done by Colt according to Bill Powell and a 6” .38 Special. So I need to figure out if it is Service or Servi.
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A real treat to see such magnificent revolvers in such stunning condition! The 1st gun magazine I ever bought, Guns - Sept 64, had the standard centerfold ad for Hunter's Lodge, and the New Service in .455 was for sale at $29.95. Their catchy ad wording described it as "the revolver that made the most desperate desperado cringe in fear." Easy to see why!

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A real treat to see such magnificent revolvers in such stunning condition! The 1st gun magazine I ever bought, Guns - Sept 64, had the standard centerfold ad for Hunter's Lodge, and the New Service in .455 was for sale at $29.95. Their catchy ad wording described it as "the revolver that made the most desperate desperado cringe in fear." Easy to see why!

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Yes, I recall the Cummings ads, inc. from Firearms International, Klein's, Golden State Arms, etc. Ye Olde Hunter was another.
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I was born in D.C. and grew up in it's Md. suburbs. When I got to "gun age" I used to go across the Potomac to Alexandria and ogle the guns for which I had no money to purchase. There were still some cobblestone streets as I recall down by the river where "Ye Old Hunter" - "Hunter's Lodge" was located
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Being a huge fan of big hunks of steel revolvers, here are two of my favorites.
1924 Mfg .45 LC 7 1/2" & a 1917 45 acp Military. These are the guns you want to have if you run out of ammo.... You still have a pretty good CLUB in your hand !
Nice looking grips, I wonder who made them?

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I don't know. Maybe New Servii could work for a plurality. I know I'd like to have more New Servii.

The New Service is my very favorite Colt revolver. A couple live here, a Model 1909 and a Model 1917.





I'd have an entire sub-collection of New Servii if I could afford it. They are stately and elegant in their own massive way.
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While I appreciate older S & Ws, I am a Colt fan. I have had two "New Services", one Gov't Issue. Both gave me "knuckle raps" (1911s also give me hammer bite). I also have had a 1917 S & W. I MUCH prefer the S & W. Better balance and no knuckle rapping.

In many ways, I consider the 1917 (with a good supply of auto rim, as well as half moons) to be near the best defensive pistol if SHF happens.
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