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Old 01-18-2020, 05:22 PM
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I found these in a home I am going to renovate. There Bayonets Two from WW11 I think and the other I don't know.
Please look these over and tell me your thoughts. I this this is Japanese marking on one.

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Old 01-18-2020, 05:24 PM
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The top one looks like a PAL 35 or 36 (not a bayonet) and the bottom one is for an M1 carbine. The middle one looks to be Japanese.
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Looks like the long one is a WWII Japanese bayonet.
The two shorter ones are USGI knives, not bayonets.
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Looks like a Type 30.

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The top one looks like a PAL 35 or 36 (not a bayonet) and the bottom one is for an M1 carbine. The middle one looks to be Japanese.
bottom one is definitely not an M1 carbine bayonet -
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Bottom one is a K-bar
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:48 PM
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I would say a Japanese also for the long one. Possibly for the Type 38 or 99 rifles. I have an American knife similar to yours made by Camillus
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The three linked circles is definitely a Japanese mark.
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Top one looks like an old Marbles knife
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Looks like a Type 30.

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No question. That on the end of a Type 38 or Type 99 Long gave the Japanese soldier quite a stand-off distance.
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The bayonet is a Japanese production, probably WW2 era, with the chrysanthemum stamp indicating imperial production.

Top knife is a RH-36 or RH-35 type, probably late 1930's to mid-1940's production, and probably made by PAL (which purchased Remington's knife production works in the 1930's), many of which were purchased by both the US military forces and individual sailors and soldiers. Basic nomenclature is "Remington Hunting (RH), blade style 3, and blade length (either 5" or 6" nominal length)".

Bottom knife is US military design, either a Navy Mk-II or a USMC "fighting knife", probably made by Ka-Bar, Camillus, PAL, or another contractor of the era.

Markings on the blade ricasso, guards, or hilts will help to determine the manufacturer and period of production, perhaps military contract or civilian production. Collector interest in all of these is good, so some research should be done to document the particulars before letting these items go away.
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About $300 worth of wood, leather, fiberglass, webbing, and steel... all joking aside a nice assortment of blades from WW2
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The circles on the Japanese bayonet are not a mum but an arsenal mark.
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The bottom knife is a USN MK II, same as the Marine Ka-Bar, save for the fiber or plastic sheath in lieu of leather.

Only the Arisaka bayonet has any way to fit it to a rifle. Why did the OP think the rest were bayonets?
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The three circles on the Japanese bayonet are for Tokyo arsenal prior to 1936 and Kokura arsenal 1936- 1945.
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Along with the bayonet's I found this mans discharge papers from the Navy and a Bill of Sale for 1/2 interest in the Horse Shoe Lounge in Greenville SC

He must have been quite a fellow. He was discharged in May of 1946. This copy has a raised seal and is recorded at the court house I think. Is marked
" A True and Original Copy " Just a little more info for all of you that helped me.

I do hope you fellows enjoyed this.
If I can post anymore pictures or Docs Let me know.

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Along with the bayonet's I found this mans discharge papers from the Navy and a Bill of Sale for 1/2 interest in the Horse Shoe Lounge in Greenville SC

He must have been quite a fellow. He was discharged in May of 1946. This copy has a raised seal and is recorded at the court house I think. Is marked
" A True and Original Copy " Just a little more info for all of you that helped me.

I do hope you fellows enjoyed this.
If I can post anymore pictures or Docs Let me know.

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I think it'd be nice to see the Ka-Bar and the MK II Navy version side by side, with the different sheaths.

Who actually made these knives? Camillus really developed the knife generally called the Ka-Bar and I think made more than Ka-Bar did. And there were other contractors.

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