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Old 01-31-2020, 05:39 PM
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Mine has been relatively trouble free. My buddies at the range are always complaining about the muzzle flash, though, and sometimes I forget to leave it on stun when it's on the nightstand.

Well, Puller. That was like a fresh glass of water while fishing in the swamp! Nice!
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I will patiently wait for my new Python, while the old ladies cluck and squawk.

No gun in recent memory has elicited the excitement this one has.

I’ve had three old Pythons, and sold them all. They were not the masterpieces folks would have you believe. I have high hopes for this one. If it ain’t right, at least Colt will fix it.

Once Colt sells every one of these $1500 guns they can make, maybe S&W will get a clue.
I don’t believe the price will stay at MSRP, much less above MSRP. The excitement of the return of the Python will die down and the price will drop. I’ve still yet to hear or see any reason for the ridiculously high price of the gun. They’re capitalizing on the long gone Python. This new one is not that. The gun looks nice and maybe in a year when I can get one for under a grand Where they belong then MAYBE I will. If it doesn’t drop, I’ll happily go on without a Python 2.0 in my safe. Still don’t see what’s so great about the old ones, much less the copycat that just got released. DOUBLE the price of a new Smith or even a Ruger? Are the twice as good? Do they cost Colt twice as much to make? Of course not. They’re capitalizing on the Python name and figuring people will look at the $1500 price tag and think they’re getting a good deal compared to $3-4000 for a real Python. Which are also not worth that price but at least you have collector value. I’ve seen threads of people who bought later years Pythons right before they stopped making them and saying they didn’t compare to the earlier ones.

And there is no denying this is a real shot in the foot for Colt. A recall on a $1500 gun? Absurd.

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I was just watching this video earlier today. I don't know who to believe. According to Mr. Spitale everything is just peachy and Colt has had only like five revolvers returned. I hope for his sake, this is correct or else he's going to eat his words and maybe even find someone else replacing him as VP at Colt Mfg. But then I saw Hickok45's malfunction and there are a couple of other videos with similar problems. Note to manufacturers - if you are going to send a T&E gun to a guy with 4.71 million subscribers...you'd better make bloody sure that gun is absolutely perfect. Apparently, in this case they didn't.

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Iím just not hung up on the price. $1500 isnít that much these days. With a dealer price of $1299 it probably wonít drop much. If it does it means I paid $500 too much to enjoy a great gun for however many years it takes for the price to drop.

Hell, I just paid $838 for my dogís vet visit to check out a persistent cough. Iím sure the Python will last longer than he does.
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Iím just not hung up on the price. $1500 isnít that much these days. With a dealer price of $1299 it probably wonít drop much. If it does it means I paid $500 too much to enjoy a great gun for however many years it takes for the price to drop.

Hell, I just paid $838 for my dogís vet visit to check out a persistent cough. Iím sure the Python will last longer than he does.
Ok, that was funny! I once spent $1500 on a 15 year old cat. But he was a good cat and well worth the $100 a year before he got sick.

I can afford the gun. I just hate to waste money. And I just donít see what this gun does that other quality guns from Smith or Ruger donít. And I donít like being taken advantage of, either. Which is why I wouldnít buy a new AR for 2 grand during the last panic. A year later they were going for less than half that.

But enjoy that Python, Sig. hope you get a good one. Be sure to post some pics and a range report.
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Back in my "youth", when I just started collecting and wanted a centerfire revolver, I had the opportunity to try a lot of different platforms owned by other members in my club.

I shot a Python on several occasions. Ended up buying a S&W. Why? I liked it better. Never could see the attraction of a Colt.

My old buddy sold his Python many years ago. OTOH, I still have the Smith.
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Surely doesn’t look good for colt getting back in the revolver market.?

They have a cad system to check if all the parts go together correctly. They can do stress analysis too. From an engineering stand point there not doing there homework. Weren’t these test fired? Disgruntled employees? Did they use old python new parts in the 2020 python? For $1,500 I’ll pass, for $550 I’d pass. Even for free I’d pass for now till it’s fixed in blue.

I’ll stay with my ruger’s and Smith revolvers.

No 357 mag revolver could even come close to my ‘75 python 6”/357. I was making pin point shots at 100 yds. Colt claimed 200 yd accuracy.

I’m saving for a m29, keep on getting side tracked, need to stay focused.

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I was just watching this video earlier today. I don't know who to believe. According to Mr. Spitale everything is just peachy and Colt has had only like five revolvers returned. I hope for his sake, this is correct or else he's going to eat his words and maybe even find someone else replacing him as VP at Colt Mfg. But then I saw Hickok45's malfunction and there are a couple of other videos with similar problems. Note to manufacturers - if you are going to send a T&E gun to a guy with 4.71 million subscribers...you'd better make bloody sure that gun is absolutely perfect. Apparently, in this case they didn't.

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A notable theme to many of these posts is the question of whether the $1500 Python is "worth it".

Here is my two cents... In my opinion, there are two main types of gun buyer. First, there are the folks who look at a gun as not much more than a tool, similar to a half inch wrench. They want something functional and reliable, for as little money as possible. Not a lot of emotion involved. These are the guys who buy plastic stocked Savage rifles, Glocks, and basic pump shotguns. Drive sensible mid sized SUV's. Good, reliable tools, all. Probably not a lot of interest in something like the new Python.

Then there are the other folks, the ones for who style, workmanship, and pride of ownership is important. For them, buying a gun is often an emotional descision. The guys who spend considerable money to get exactly what appeals to them. The guys who buy pre-model 27's, classic Winchesters and colts, who's knees get weak when they see figured walnut and polished blueing. The guys who drive tricked out 3/4 ton diesel pick up trucks even though 95% of the time they are just commuting to work.

There is no "right" or "wrong" answer, just depends on the person. It is the people in the second category that Colt has targeted as the Pythons market. Once Colt works out any bugs in the gun, I am sure they will sell a bunch.

Me, I appreciate both views. I carry a Glock. Also have a space set aside inside my safe, next to my Colt SA's and Gold Cups, just waiting for a new blued Python, which will wear fancy walnut grips...

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I was just watching this video earlier today. I don't know who to believe. According to Mr. Spitale everything is just peachy and Colt has had only like five revolvers returned. I hope for his sake, this is correct or else he's going to eat his words and maybe even find someone else replacing him as VP at Colt Mfg. But then I saw Hickok45's malfunction and there are a couple of other videos with similar problems. Note to manufacturers - if you are going to send a T&E gun to a guy with 4.71 million subscribers...you'd better make bloody sure that gun is absolutely perfect. Apparently, in this case they didn't.

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There have been at least 4 videos so far on YouTube from different channels. Even the video put out by Colt had an issue with the cylinder not turning but nobody caught it at first. Either every one of those guns Mr. Spitale is referring to were shown on YouTube (unlikely. Not everybody takes the time to make a video on YouTube), or Spitale is intentionally being misleading, or heís uninformed as to the number that have been returned, which is also unacceptable since this was clearly a planned video to address the issue and he should have been prepared. I say heís downplaying the number to save face. Iím not saying dozens or even hundreds have been returned, but itís more than 5. I also fail to see how ďpoor ammo selectionĒ can result in a cylinder not turning.
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I was just watching this video earlier today. I don't know who to believe. According to Mr. Spitale everything is just peachy and Colt has had only like five revolvers returned. I hope for his sake, this is correct or else he's going to eat his words and maybe even find someone else replacing him as VP at Colt Mfg. But then I saw Hickok45's malfunction and there are a couple of other videos with similar problems. Note to manufacturers - if you are going to send a T&E gun to a guy with 4.71 million subscribers...you'd better make bloody sure that gun is absolutely perfect. Apparently, in this case they didn't.

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There have been at least 4 videos so far on YouTube from different channels. Even the video put out by Colt had an issue with the cylinder not turning but nobody caught it at first. Either every one of those guns Mr. Spitale is referring to were shown on YouTube (unlikely. Not everybody takes the time to make a video on YouTube), or Spitale is intentionally being misleading, or heís uninformed as to the number that have been returned, which is also unacceptable since this was clearly a planned video to address the issue and he should have been prepared. I say heís downplaying the number to save face. Iím not saying dozens or even hundreds have been returned, but itís more than 5. I also fail to see how ďpoor ammo selectionĒ can result in a cylinder not turning.
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Hickok has a change of heart,???? Sounds very nervous?


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I've not handled any of the new Colts, but one question is nagging at me. Could we consider the new Colt Python to be nothing more than a King Cobra Target with a vented rib on the barrel? Looks like the same frame...and maybe the same innards? That would be a brilliant marketing move...just slap a vented rib on the barrel, call it a Python and add $4 or 500 to the price?
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I've not handled any of the new Colts, but one question is nagging at me. Could we consider the new Colt Python to be nothing more than a King Cobra Target with a vented rib on the barrel? Looks like the same frame...and maybe the same innards? That would be a brilliant marketing move...just slap a vented rib on the barrel, call it a Python and add $4 or 500 to the price?
Totally different gun. The Python is bigger, heavier, beefier. I don't have a King Cobra, but I do have a 2017 Cobra, and a 2020 Python. In size the Cobra is between a J and a K frame S&W. The Python is about the same size as a L-frame S&W.

I'm not smart enough to comment on the internals except to say it is my understanding they are different. The trigger on the Cobra is nice. The trigger on the Python is REALLY nice.
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It is astonishing that any manufacturer of about any item would release a new product (especially a high profile revolver like the Python) to the market without performing very thorough testing and exercising maximum quality control during manufacture. Yet it seems to happen. Look at Remington's botched introduction of the R51. I know nothing about what the problems with the new Python might be but it will be interesting to find out. From the items I have read, the only two mentioned have been light primer strikes and cylinder lockup problems (possibly more a shooter problem than a design problem), but only in a few cases. Additionally, there have been some cosmetic defects reported.
Or a $30,000 car, or a multi million dollar airliner, etc.... I agree with one of the above posters, that people appear to be filled with glee that Colt is having problems. I have both S&W and Colt products. Let us not forget the multiple posts on this forum about machining marks, "chattering" in the rifling of S&W barrels, canted barrels, lock failures, loose barrels, etc. If you really want to save money, never buy a firearm from any company that has had even one faulty product sent out for sale. Don't care if they make one hundred a year, or one million. Since I have never found a firearms company that has accomplished that you will save a great deal of money since you will never buy a new gun. A lot of first production products have issues. When they get all the VERY MINOR kinks worked out on the new Python, I will be headed to my dealer to order a 6" version. Thus endeth my rant.
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Failure for the cylinder to rotate is not a "minor kink." Cosmetic problems in a $1500 gun is unacceptable. I don't take delight in Colt's problems since I've owned a blue Python that didn't have cosmetic problems and so far as I know, never failed to rotate the cylinder. I owned an Official Police that was perfect, sold last year. And a long time ago, I had a Detective Special with the full handle.(Wish I still did.) I wish the reality of the new Pythons matched the very high price. I won't buy one, not because of the kinks, but because I don't need another .357 or any make. I'm certainly NOT brand loyal to S&W, although I own two .357s, older guns, and I am loyal to older guns.
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Or a $30,000 car, or a multi million dollar airliner, etc.... I agree with one of the above posters, that people appear to be filled with glee that Colt is having problems. I have both S&W and Colt products. Let us not forget the multiple posts on this forum about machining marks, "chattering" in the rifling of S&W barrels, canted barrels, lock failures, loose barrels, etc. If you really want to save money, never buy a firearm from any company that has had even one faulty product sent out for sale. Don't care if they make one hundred a year, or one million. Since I have never found a firearms company that has accomplished that you will save a great deal of money since you will never buy a new gun. A lot of first production products have issues. When they get all the VERY MINOR kinks worked out on the new Python, I will be headed to my dealer to order a 6" version. Thus endeth my rant.

I have no glee in these issues. Never really saw the hype about Pythons but always acknowledged they were a nice gun. Never saw the reason for the stupid high prices either. If you look back at the original Python sales, the Python cost more than the Model 19 but not twice the price.

My issue is the high MSRP to begin with on these new Pythons. They don’t have the mystique of the originals. I get dealers charging over MSRP since people are willing to pay that price, at least for now.

But there clearly is an issue with at least some of these guns and it is clear Colt is downplaying the issue. 5 have been sent back? Bull. Colt doesn’t want to admit they have an issue. For what they charge for these they should be issuing a recall for all guns shipped with an apology. They’ll probably make it right at some point, but own up to it already.

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Put the new Python debacle into context...
Imagine that, upon the introduction of the S&W Registered Magnum, it was discovered that they had major functional issues.
Would the customers of the day happily plunked down their $60 and then said, "Oh well, I'll just wait until they work the bugs out. Happens all the time."
No, it wouldn't have happened. Heads would have publicly rolled and the company in question may not have survived.

Ironically, when Colt offered the pre-war Shooting Master, if one was returned with any issue, the worker who put it together was required to fix it on his own time and his own dime!

How times have changed!
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Put the new Python debacle into context...
Imagine that, upon the introduction of the S&W Registered Magnum, it was discovered that they had major functional issues.
Would the customers of the day happily plunked down their $60 and then said, "Oh well, I'll just wait until they work the bugs out. Happens all the time."
No, it wouldn't have happened. Heads would have publicly rolled and the company in question may not have survived.

Ironically, when Colt offered the pre-war Shooting Master, if one was returned with any issue, the worker who put it together was required to fix it on his own time and his own dime!

How times have changed!
It's now a fast-food world. More speed for more errors is acceptable to younger folks. If we took a poll, I bet 'age' and willingness to put up with these issues would be highly correlated.

I had every intention of ordering a 4.25", but I've re-thought it. I can buy a heckuva vintage S&W for $1,499+tax.

I'm glad you mentioned the Shooting Master. People don't realize the craftsmanship that went into that revolver. Also, it's built on a larger frame than any .357 Colt ever came out with afterward. If I'm wrong about that, please give me the details - I'm wrong quite frequently
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the gun is badly stacking for my taste...not good.
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I will concur with CH4. I handled a 6" while ordering my 4.25 a few weeks back and the action was incredible.

Short, smooth pull and then break.

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All hyperbole, conjecture and Schadenfreude aside, all I want to know is the root cause of the reported failures, and what will be Colt’s response.
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Say what you will about the original Colt action, however 54 years later my 1966 Trooper 357 still locks up tight and in perfect time. The DA trigger pull is just as smooth and manageable as any N or K frame I've ever owned. She's just a real joy to shoot. My only critique is on the trigger itself: Every Colt revolver I've ever owned, save for the 1911 Officier's Model Target, has had a narrow trigger with such sharp serrations that its uncomfortable to shoot for long periods. I rectified this on my Tropper this week by installing a NOS Ace Trigger Shoe since I'm shooting it more often. I wish that like S&W, Colt had offered a 0.5" target trigger as an option.

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I can promise you that the hard core collectors out there who have many thousands of dollars invested in vintage Python are hoping and praying that this reissue of the Python fails. If it is successful it won't help the value of their collections. If it fails miserably, it will likely enhance the value and demand for their vintage "safe queens." We saw this with the sorry attempts to repeal the NFA and/or de-regulate suppressors. The collectors who invested heavily in Class III and had to go to all the paperwork trouble over the years...didn't want to see everything become cheaper and more easily available. As for me, I have zero interest in a Python...old or new...BUT I really want the Python to be a huge success and dominate the revolver market. WHY? Because maybe S&W will get of its +++ and start giving its malignantly loyal customer base what it really wants...a lockless for starters.
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Sad to hear that Colt customer service is as bad as it consistently was the last I dealt with them......back in the 1980s!
The only customers they seem to care for are fat-cat gov't contracts.

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Send the python to China the people at norinco will clone it she will run like a Swiss watch. My first python was out of time, brand new so much for this new one. Time for a ruger or another s&w.

I do love my newer s&w revolvers now for sure.

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All hyperbole, conjecture and Schadenfreude aside, all I want to know is the root cause of the reported failures, and what will be Coltís response.
Thanks, as one with a NeoPhython at the Blue Dome stable, Iíd like to know, too.

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JayFramer,
I've been following this thread with interest. I'm truly sorry you got a gun with issues. I can surely understand your frustrations, and even justfiable anger. Still, I'm just hopeful your gun will be made right, and sometime soon you will be able to just look back at this as an unpleasant bump. I really hope Mr. Ed does right by this. I so want them to succeed, and I want you to love that gun!
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Video of a guy`s new Python with a seriously bitched up rifling issue at the muzzle. He didnt even fire it before sending it back
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You can't believe the amount of Bullcrap I've heard at Gun Stores, for the past 35 years!!

Is it true? I don't know.

I was told they have been shipping and selling out everywhere!!

The ones we tested last December worked GREAT!!

There's one being used on a daily basis by one of Gunsite's Instructors and it hasn't failed yet!!

On the value of the old Pythons?? Only the Shooter Grade Pythons will be affected, the NIB, Mint ones will remain just as high as they were. But the beaters will go down like a Brick tied to a Brick!! The old ones had great finish and craftsmanship, but I've seen their weak points too.

These new Pythons are NOT collector Items, they were never meant to be. They are shooters!! And they're very good at that!!

I have one coming, when I get it, I will do another review on it.

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Overheard the LGS call in a rush order for a new Python. The warehouse had 120 something Pythons in stock. When asked to rush ship one to the business....."We can't they all have to be returned to the factory!"

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According to internet forums and YouTube personalities like Hikock 45, the new Colt Python has issues causing malfunctions. The main issues that are being reported on are cylinder lockup and light primer strikes. There are reports that hundreds of guns have been affected by these issues causing a quiet recall to take place on these 2020 Colt Pythons.


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Watch Hickok45's video very closely. He is a big man with big hands. The Python's cylinder does not rotate only when he is cocking it single action, never double action. He has his trigger finger on the trigger, putting pressure on it. Again, he has big hands and big fingers. He caused the failure of the cylinder to turn by keeping pressure on the trigger when he cocked it single action. Notice that he cannot replicate it again later in the video and he says that the problem went away. The cylinder fails to turn because right after the single action shooting because the hand got out of alignment. Once he opened the cylinder and then closed it again AND got his finger out of the trigger guard, the problem went away. I really like Hickok45 and I wish he would acknowledge what really happened.

I don't like YankeeThunder but his video shows how this happens with any (S&W too!) double action revolver:

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No, it happens on DA as well. Hickock DAs the trigger several times without the cylinder rotating. YankeeThunder acknowledges he doesn't like Hickock and accuses him of incompetence or dishonesty. Which reflects poorly on YT, whose video is dishonest.

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To everyone bashing the Python, Google 686 problems, Google P365 problems, Google Glock 19 problems, Google K6S problems, Google whatever it is you like Problems. You will find someone bashing whatever it is. It's the Internet, it is what happens on the Internet. If you do not like the Python, do not buy one. If you want to wait a year, wait a year. Majority of us that have bought the new Python are Super Happy and can't wait for more variations to come out.
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If the price of beater pythons plummets that'll be just fine. Too many rubes paying 1500 or more for guns with no bluing left on them.
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I don't think pointing out possible flaws in a $1500 gun is bashing. Me, I'd like to see the Python emerge as flawless if overpriced. I won't buy one at half that price because I don't need another .357, and especially a current 6" .357.

I note the brand loyalty to Colt, but I'm not brand loyal to any revolver and don't fully understand the concept. I have a couple of Smiths because that's what I grew up on and got familiar with them. Are they superior to same-era Colts? I doubt it, but they certainly were more affordable.

The only way Colt (or Smiths) will improve is by addressing problems or possible problems, not by blind acceptance of the gun as it exists. I feel too few manufacturers are answering consumer tastes, and that opens some disturbing possibilities from a market standpoint.
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I am in the same boat as many others, having no intention of buying a 2020 Python, as I feel no need for owning one. I already own six E- and I-frame Colt revolvers (plus two D-frames and three larger New Service Colt revolvers) and have never had the slightest difficulty with any of them. I have never understood why so many seem to delight in badmouthing Colts. If my stable of Colts wasn't so extensive, I might be more interested in buying the new Python.
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To everyone bashing the Python, Google 686 problems, Google P365 problems, Google Glock 19 problems, Google K6S problems, Google whatever it is you like Problems. You will find someone bashing whatever it is. It's the Internet, it is what happens on the Internet. If you do not like the Python, do not buy one. If you want to wait a year, wait a year. Majority of us that have bought the new Python are Super Happy and can't wait for more variations to come out.
Problems with a $600 gun aren't ideal but they certainly don't sting as much as a gun going for 3 times the price. A $1500 (at least) gun should have been thoroughly vetted and inspected before shipping. You rightfully expect a higher standard with a higher price tag.
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Problems with a $600 gun aren't ideal but they certainly don't sting as much as a gun going for 3 times the price. A $1500 (at least) gun should have been thoroughly vetted and inspected before shipping. You rightfully expect a higher standard with a higher price tag.
That is my point! Majority of us have had no issues so majority of them were vetted and inspected. Nothing is perfect and never will be. A $100,000 Porsche should have no problems too but go to your Porsche Service Department and you will see one on a lift having warranty work done.
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That is my point! Majority of us have had no issues so majority of them were vetted and inspected. Nothing is perfect and never will be. A $100,000 Porsche should have no problems too but go to your Porsche Service Department and you will see one on a lift having warranty work done.
Cars are a lot more complex than a revolver and easier to miss something too. Itís just the guy from Colt saying only 5 have come back and blaming bad ammo. Thereís more than 5 videos on YouTube alone. If he had said ďweíre sorry for any inconvenience and will make it rightĒ thatís one thing. Just seemed really quick to blame ammo or user error. And Colt doesnít have he greatest rep for customer service anyway.

Iím sure itís not every gun. But Iím sure itís more than 5.
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I'm late to this party, but I am a Colt guy...Well, I'm a S&W guy too. I just love the look and feel of the older revolvers. I won't waste space regurgitating the same negative points that have been repeatedly posted in this thread. I will say that Colt lost a chance of selling a new Python to me the moment I saw the Altamont grips, no backstrap lines, laser engraving, and quick scan code. I wish that gun companies were run by gun guys still, and not by businessmen and women...this coming from a guy with three business degrees.
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I am looking forward to getting one of the 4 inchers. There are often errors once mass production starts on a new line before they figure out how to dial production in. Would like to heat more about the accuracy. The trigger sounds good and looks better then other guns that are out there.
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Problems with a $600 gun aren't ideal but they certainly don't sting as much as a gun going for 3 times the price. A $1500 (at least) gun should have been thoroughly vetted and inspected before shipping. You rightfully expect a higher standard with a higher price tag.
The funny thing is that paying a premium price for your new premium gun doesn't seem to matter anymore. Defects and problems come in all price ranges. It's the brave new world we live in.
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I'm late to this party, but I am a Colt guy...Well, I'm a S&W guy too. I just love the look and feel of the older revolvers. I won't waste space regurgitating the same negative points that have been repeatedly posted in this thread. I will say that Colt lost a chance of selling a new Python to me the moment I saw the Altamont grips, no backstrap lines, laser engraving, and quick scan code. I wish that gun companies were run by gun guys still, and not by businessmen and women...this coming from a guy with three business degrees.
The faux wood grips are certainly a turn-off, but that quick scan code is an abomination. Are there any other firearms out there that have that? It has a serial number. Why does it need a quick scan bar code so I can use an IPhone app on it? That one makes no sense to me.
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I have a new Python and it’s been outstanding. 1200 plus rounds so far, no malfunctions with 5 different ammo types. I am very happy with it. I have 2 Pythons from the 1980’s. I would say I like the single action trigger in the old guns better, and the double action in the 2020 Python better. I can’t wait to get my hands on a 4.25” barrel version when they become available.

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The faux wood grips are certainly a turn-off, but that quick scan code is an abomination. Are there any other firearms out there that have that? It has a serial number. Why does it need a quick scan bar code so I can use an IPhone app on it? That one makes no sense to me.
Remington firearms now have the quick scan code on them.
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The faux wood grips are certainly a turn-off, but that quick scan code is an abomination. Are there any other firearms out there that have that? It has a serial number. Why does it need a quick scan bar code so I can use an IPhone app on it? That one makes no sense to me.
I'm not sure if anyone else has one or not, but I don't even notice the one on mine. Probably because I'm used to Smith and Wesson printing a book right there.

Oh...My Colt Cobra has one too.
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Return of the New Python: Does that mean returning it to the factory after it doesnt work?
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In a confrontation if it doesn’t shoot it becomes a hammer, it’s hammer time. I’m not bashing the python I owned a bad one in the first run. It was out of time. As my ruger’s in 357 mag truck on.........the Redhawk 357/8shot and 41 mag gets my vote.

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