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Old 02-09-2020, 01:37 PM
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The OP has made his selection along with the final user. BUT, while I concur with the selection....... I have to say that the SW22 Victory is a very impressive 22 LR plinker and casual hunting handgun. My neighbor bought one new for his daughter and wanted me to 'check it out' before the gift. We took it apart, cleaned and lubed and went to the range. I was very impressed with the ergonomic, accuracy with many different ammos and reliability. Easy to field strip for a good cleaning and lubing. What more could one ask for in a relatively inexpensive handgun?
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:50 PM
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There are an untold number of Ruger MK variants to please just about anyone, the now discontinued MKII probably one of the best of the lot. They even introduced the MKIV for those otherwise incapable of acquiring a man card to enjoy the shooting sports too.

Don't dismiss the Ruger SR22 either, in fact, I think it fits the bill as described by the OP. Plenty accurate, very reliable with a variety of .22 LR ammo, and simple to maintain and easy to field strip. Mine has been been my wife's favorite plinker.

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.......She had a Beretta 71, which was just about perfect, for her, but she had to give it back to her Dad. Eventually, she'll end up with it, so she doesn't want to "duplicate" that gun. ....
If my Dad had a Beretta 71, I would be buying him cigarettes, and I'd get him a new Deepfryer for his birthday.

BUt on a serious less dark note.... I love the Ruger Mark IV
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I am not sure why all the fuss over disassembly issues on the Ruger MK series. A simple youtube video of a few minutes can fix this problem forever................. but........... why are yall taking them apart so much? My mk2 went about +/- 12k rds between cleaning sessions once without issue.

It is simply a non issue in a plinker which all 22lr pistols are.
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The OP has made his selection along with the final user. BUT, while I concur with the selection....... I have to say that the SW22 Victory is a very impressive 22 LR plinker and casual hunting handgun. My neighbor bought one new for his daughter and wanted me to 'check it out' before the gift. We took it apart, cleaned and lubed and went to the range. I was very impressed with the ergonomic, accuracy with many different ammos and reliability. Easy to field strip for a good cleaning and lubing. What more could one ask for in a relatively inexpensive handgun?
This forum is nearly bursting with reports of the new S&W Victory and itís failures and troubles. One very common problem seems to be that they eject their ejector.
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Old 02-09-2020, 03:53 PM
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I am not sure why all the fuss over disassembly issues on the Ruger MK series. A simple youtube video of a few minutes can fix this problem forever................. but........... why are yall taking them apart so much? My mk2 went about +/- 12k rds between cleaning sessions once without issue.

It is simply a non issue in a plinker which all 22lr pistols are.
I had a Ruger Mk I long before Al Gore invented the Internet and YouTube didn't exist. Discouraging to say the least when it came to disassembly. They're fine pistols but not noted for their fine triggers.
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Interesting, and entertaining, that the OP made his/her choice quite a few posts back. That said, another consideration is another hard-to-find: S&W 2213 or 2214. This is S&W Forum, after all. I have but one (2214) and have regretted selling my 2213 many years ago. They are compact and uber-reliable. Another possibility is one of the new Ruger LCP-II .22's ... after waiting another 6-8 months for them to work out any kinks. The Marks and BuckMarks are all very good, but a little 2213 or 2214 could also double as a carry pistol.
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She had a Beretta 71, which was just about perfect, for her, but she had to give it back to her Dad. Eventually, she'll end up with it, so she doesn't want to "duplicate" that gun. She had no problem racking the slide, on that one, and I enjoyed its ease of field stripping, for cleaning purposes.
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I am not sure why all the fuss over disassembly issues on the Ruger MK series. A simple youtube video of a few minutes can fix this problem forever................. but........... why are yall taking them apart so much? My mk2 went about +/- 12k rds between cleaning sessions once without issue.

It is simply a non issue in a plinker which all 22lr pistols are.
There are no credible disassembly issues on the Ruger. It's assembly that a few find challenging. As long as you hold the barrel 42 degrees from vertical, give or take a degree or two, you should have no problem. Field-expedient measures involve plastic protractors, or some compasses.
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I purchased a new S&W Victory performance center model a couple of years ago it functioned perfectly straight out of the box for the first 700 or so rounds then became a jam-o-matic. I did my research and called Smith for new extractor parts which they sent. I replaced the parts in a couple of minutes and adjusted the ejector and several thousand rounds later itís still running 100%. These are excellent guns and quite accurate with an excellent trigger. Only one screw has to be loosened to disassemble. It takes 5 seconds to disassemble and reassemble. Even the barrel can be removed in seconds with loosening one screw. I compare the Victory to my Jeep. They have many custom options and are serious fun machines.

Having said all that I just purchased a Ruger MKIV Standard 4-3/4 last Thursday. I owned a MKI standard back in the 70ís and have owned a MKII & SS MKIII Both heavy barrel Models. All were 100% reliable and very accurate. I bought my latest Standard just for its simplicity. My Victory has a CF barrel, compensator and red dot. The Ruger doesnít even have adjustable sights so thereís nothing to think about other than having fun. Iím planning on taking it to the range in the morning and testing it out.

I also inherited a Browning Challenger II. Nice gun, accurate but I didnít bond with it. I really liked the S&W and Rutgers better so I sold it. No point in owning it it was going to sit in the safe.

I also bought a new S&W 2206 when the came out in the late 80ís, I think it was. It had lots of issues with FTF & FTEís. Last year I rediscovered it in the back of my safe and took it for a spin. Still jammed every three shots. I called Smith since it has a lifetime warranty and sent it to them. A couple of weeks later, new barrel and extractor it started working. Actually it worked 100%. I wound up trading it though for a nice Winchester 62A. The 2206 has a following now but I just never liked it like I thought I would.

My vote goes to either a Ruger MKIV or Smith Victory. Many configurations and both are easy to take down and reassemble. Both are very accurate and City easily customized. Iíve not used Rugers customer service but Smith has a lifetime warranty and backs up products that you didnít even buy new if they were made after the lifetime warranty started.
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Ruger Mk 11 and old browning Challenger.
Being an old timer,if for myself I'd look into a good used Hi Standard or S&W 41
The High Standards are going out at a low price these days,younguns rather buying black rubber gripped plastic guns.!
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Got a HS HD Military. I can't remember what I paid for it, but I don't remember it being cheap.
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I've got no experience with the Browning Buckmark, but a lot of folks here seem to think highly of them. However, I own and would recommend the Ruger Mk4 Target with the following caveats:

Pros: moderately priced; accurate; easy to take down & clean; many after-market options for grips, sights & magazines.

Cons: requires Volquartsen (or TandemKross) trigger upgrade for match accuracy; requires replacement of firing pin (Mk2, VQ or TK recommended) to eliminate probable firing pin breakage; some people have reported loosening of the barrel-to-frame pivot requiring replacement of the original flexible grommet/buffer.

I would recommend also the Ruger Mk2's but they're a pita (...in my opinion) for reassembly after cleaning. Most owners, however, eventually get over this annoyance and regard them as superior in many ways to the Mk4's and Mk3's.

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I got over it but it isn't for the new troop. That reminds me, I need to clean mine. I put it off because I can't remember exactly how I'm supposed to hold my mouth to reassemble it. I always have to watch the video. But then I'm 70 years old and I sometimes forget my doctor appointments. A finer 22 target pistol hasn't been made yet. People will still be admiring that pistol in 2049, 100 years from its inception.
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When I bought a .22 pistol a few (3) years back I looked at the Buckmark first thing because of prior experience with them.
Maybe, hopefully, the example I examined was an outlier but it was a gritty ***.
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A female friend of mine is looking for a semi-auto, in .22LR. This would mostly be a plinking/range (out to 10 yards) gun. Everyone has warned us to stay away from the Walther, but other than that, there are a bunch of choices out there. My range does rent guns, but I'd like to narrow down the list of possible guns. $10 a range gun can get spendy, if we try to shoot everything they have. She had a Beretta 71, which was just about perfect, for her, but she had to give it back to her Dad. Eventually, she'll end up with it, so she doesn't want to "duplicate" that gun. She had no problem racking the slide, on that one, and I enjoyed its ease of field stripping, for cleaning purposes.
Looking for something similar. What do you guys and gals recommend?
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Let me clear up the Walther comment on the .22 1911 series

Colt Gov model .22 series are now being made by Walther in Germany and very well made! If you watch videos on this weapon make sure your watching the new ones not ones from 6 or 8 years ago. That being said I have the rail model and it has performed flawlessly. These can be purchased for under $400.00.

I have a M-41, that's not a pistol you just want to shoot at close range. $900.00 to $1,400

Grand Power K-22, Excellent pistol, if you can find one.

The next .22 I will purchase..

The Sig Sauer 226BR-22-BAS-SAO

If you get the Sig .22 you can later buy a 9mm slide for it and it is cheaper to buy the .22 first then to buy the (9mm then buy the .22 slide

Everything in both weapons are the same except for the slide of course. Under $600.00

One important point to consider, Buy a .22 that you can HOLSTER!!!!!!!
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I own a 2013 Walther PPK/S .22 that has been great, but Walther makes a lot of .22 pistols, including licensed replicas of the 1911.

That being said, most of the negative comments regarding Walther's .22 pistols include dated references to Gen 1 P22 slide failures. Rest assured, Walther has greatly beefed up the slide since Gen 1, I don't believe that they're even using the same alloy anymore, (supposedly they've switched to something stronger) and from what I've seen, all cases in which the P22's slide cracked or pieces blew off were the result of a catastrophic case blowout which would have damaged the slide regardless of its composition because obviously firearms manufactures don't tend to build their slides to withstand case blowouts.
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3 different salesmen at 2 different stores said the Walther P22 was prone to jamming. I have no personal experience, with any Walther model.
Thanks for the suggestions, and keep 'em coming!
The Mark IV is a great choice! Regarding other items in the thread; I wonder if they confused the Walther with the SIG Mosquito? My brother has one that's a jammomatic and that's not the only one I know of like that. And to add to other posts; my and my other brother's Ruger SR22s have been very serviceable and I've heard good things about the S&W M&P 22 Compact and probably would have had one if I didn't already have the Ruger when the Compact came out. There are many great options and each fit every person just a little differently. For anyone else trying to decide, spending $10 to rent your top options might save you money in the long run.
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Ruger MkIII 5.5 target stainless two magazines box and paperwork. NOS would be an excellent choice for her . If you need help in finding one, PM me and I'll tell you where you could look and give you an idea of what one might cost-including shipping . I've never had an issue taking the I, II or III down. I'm not really that enamored with the Mk IV other than the new safety design. If I but another Ruger semi auto 22 it is gonna be a 45/22 with a threaded barrel for a suppressor
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Got a HS HD Military. I can't remember what I paid for it, but I don't remember it being cheap.
Before I bought a M41 I used my HD Military for bullseye shooting. When I got it it came with an extra set of genuine stag grips, several magazines and a tooled holster. Paid 40 bucks for the lot.
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My old gun show Buddy who moved to Kentucky has a few Walther p22's for Him, the Wife and Grandkids and has no problems whatever. I don't think He paid over $250 for any of them. The Buckmark is a good one as is the Ruger.
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That's quite a deal! HOW long ago was that?
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