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Guess I’m a dinosaur
A couple weeks ago I visited a local shop and spotted a clean Ruger Super Blackhawk from 1978-1979 with the manual, box and shipper. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was unfired but low round count at the minimum. I’ve kinda been on the lookout for one, but didn’t buy it. Last weekend the panic hit. I went back and the little shop was jammed. You had to take a number, which I did. There were 37 numbers before mine. I waited for about 45 minutes and left. In that time they had called for 1 number. Went back today and it was still there. So I put money down on it. The rest of the shelves resembled Mother Hubbards cupboard but there were many revolvers and some single actions. I guess not many like cowboy guns in this age of plastic fantastics.
(SIGH!) Guess I’m a dinosaur.
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You surely won’t regret it OP. Those guns are built like bank vaults.
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I bought a reduced priced M10 three weeks ago LGS/range and later seen other older model revolvers reduced half priced. Everyone was buying up the cheaper polymer guns. Congratulations on the Blachawk
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When I've been in a LGS the same question seems
to come up by perspective buyers, especially looking
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Any answer under 15 is a turnoff.
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new shooters because of their "low" capacity.
Movies often show extreme fire power confrontations.
And in those firefights, people learn they need more
and more and more ammo because 95 percent are misses.
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SIX shot smiths and 1911’s. Well placed shots are 100% better than the spray and pray plastical tacticals all the younger crowd wants today.
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I hunt with an Encore. If I can't take a deer with one shot, I won't hunt.
I target shoot using multiple magazines, each only loaded with 5 rounds. No reason, that's just the way I do it.
I live in NY. Can't legally own a mag more than a 10 round capacity, and we can't legally load more than 7 rounds.
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Super Bs tend to be very tight grouping revolvers. I much prefer their larger grip over the standard Blackhawk MR3Red. I let them roll in my hand until the muzzle nearly points up. Doing that makes firing standard .44 Magnum cartridges more comfortable than firing them in N frames. Super Bs are great revolvers for hobbyists and hunters. Never mind the kids. You are just as likely to need your Super B. to fight off Big Foot as the "plastical tactical" buyers are to need their new pistol to fight off who ever they're worried about.
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A couple weeks ago I visited a local shop and spotted a clean Ruger Super Blackhawk from 1978-1979 with the manual, box and shipper. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was unfired but low round count at the minimum. I’ve kinda been on the lookout for one, but didn’t buy it. Last weekend the panic hit. I went back and the little shop was jammed. You had to take a number, which I did. There were 37 numbers before mine. I waited for about 45 minutes and left. In that time they had called for 1 number. Went back today and it was still there. So I put money down on it. The rest of the shelves resembled Mother Hubbards cupboard but there were many revolvers and some single actions. I guess not many like cowboy guns in this age of plastic fantastics.
(SIGH!) Guess I’m a dinosaur.
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I suspect that the majority of the people who are jamming gun shops today are not people like US - experienced current gun owners. They are first time gun buyers looking to equip themselves with a firearm out of fear of what they imagine could happen due to the coronavirus. As such, they have no idea what a Super Blackhawk represents...nor does it fall within their "price point".
Congratulations on your find!
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My hot rod is a six cylinder
Three decades ago I was new to club range shooting. I had been a desert junkyard shooter until they got crowded and unsafe. Someone at the new club suggested shooting at metal plates about 7-10 yards and timing us. The auto boys thought they were supposed to empty 3 magazines in order to hit all 8 targets. When my turn came up I calmly aimed my Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt and shot six targets, I ejected one empty, loaded one round then turned the cylinder and repeated with another round. I registered the cylinder, shot two more targets. I had the fasted time and won a trophy hat. Single actions are for men, spray and prey is for sissys.
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Hello fellow dinosaur! I get it! I delight in single-shots.
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Back in 1989, I won first place in production class using an old model Super Blackhawk in silhouette shooting competition. I reloaded the 44 mag to a little over max load using 2400 powder and my own cast bullets. Recoil was brutal, but those heavy ram targets at 200 yards fell fast. I could actually see the bullet on its way out. That gun was sturdy as all get out and never failed.
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My last purchase, I bought a 6" GP100, .327 Fed Mag; Tomorrow, I have an appt. to retrieve a Blued Lipsey GP100, 5", in .327 FM, also. That's the one I've been waiting for. I guess I'm a dinosaur, too. But, just to be safe, both guns have 7 shots! Peace.
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Check back in six or so months, for deals on returned Panic bought pistols.
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In 1971 I got a Ruger Blackhawk 357 mag. for $75.00 .
Lightly used , the movie Dirty Harry had hit town and the original owner
(of two weeks) traded it back in on a 44 mag. S&W model 29 !
The store owner took the $75.00 I had in my jeans for it saying
" Nobody wants a old cowboy single action in 357... I can't hardly give them away... S&W 44 magnums , I can sell every one I can get my hands on!".
Sometimes it pays dividends to be a dinosaur !!!
I still have the Blackhawk... just call me Dino
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I have 3 Rugers SA's , a NMBH in 41 magnum , an OM Vaquero in 45Colt and a single six in 22 magnum . I shot my first revolver when I was 10 . It was my uncles Blackhawk in 44 magnum with about a 7.5' barrel . I've been hooked on revolvers ever since and I thoroughly enjoy a nice SA revolver . I would love to own a Colt , but more than my budget will allow . Regards, Paul
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My last purchase, I bought a 6" GP100, .327 Fed Mag; Tomorrow, I have an appt. to retrieve a Blued Lipsey GP100, 5", in .327 FM, also. That's the one I've been waiting for. I guess I'm a dinosaur, too. But, just to be safe, both guns have 7 shots! Peace.
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Jeff, is it the shop in Dravosburg? They are only selling by appointment. Never heard of that before the current situation.
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A couple weeks ago I visited a local shop and spotted a clean Ruger Super Blackhawk from 1978-1979 with the manual, box and shipper. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was unfired but low round count at the minimum. I’ve kinda been on the lookout for one, but didn’t buy it. Last weekend the panic hit. I went back and the little shop was jammed. You had to take a number, which I did. There were 37 numbers before mine. I waited for about 45 minutes and left. In that time they had called for 1 number. Went back today and it was still there. So I put money down on it. The rest of the shelves resembled Mother Hubbards cupboard but there were many revolvers and some single actions. I guess not many like cowboy guns in this age of plastic fantastics.
(SIGH!) Guess I’m a dinosaur.
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Thing is, in times of panic, people pull out guns they think that won't get banned and trade them in for plastic things they think will serve them better in some sort of hypothetical apocalypse scenario, complete with zombies roaming gangs of people hopped up on radioactive mushrooms to fend off.
In reality. Anyone with any taste will be completely unable to resist revolvers. I've introduced dozens of young plastic gun owners to fine old revolvers (using the gateway drug of the cheap model 10) and the majority of them become hopelessly hooked...on the good stuff.
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Dinosaur? perhaps...
I go to a large private gun club regularly and shoot rifles much of the time, but when I shoot handguns, I use only the 25 / 50 yard range, usually shooting at 25 yards. I normally have this range to myself for at least a couple of hours or so. I've had most of my handguns for a long time and many are double-action S&Ws or Colt revolvers. I can't remember if I've ever seen anyone else shoot a revolver at the club.
The 10 and 15 yard handgun range sees considerable use as does the 3 and 5 (and maybe 7) yard range. I've never seen a shooter on either of the two short ranges using anything other than what appeared to be polymer-framed semi-autos. These guns are incredibly popular and many of the shooters are far from youngsters.
I must mention that I shoot during the week and almost never on weekends when all the ranges probably see much more use. I want to think that's when the 1911 and revolver Bullseye-type shooters come out and shoot at 25 and 50 yards.
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I hunt with an Encore. If I can't take a deer with one shot, I won't hunt.
I target shoot using multiple magazines, each only loaded with 5 rounds. No reason, that's just the way I do it.
I live in NY. Can't legally own a mag more than a 10 round capacity, and we can't legally load more than 7 rounds.
Of course I comply with the law, but regardless I just don't see the need.
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That might be true in NYC but was done away with years ago in the rest of the state. You can load 10.
Chapter 3 page 42A of Firearms and Weapons laws, written by Lee Thomas and Jeffery Chamberlain. (the gun owners bible)
This yearly updated publication is sold at many gun stores and can be purchased from the authors!
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My Wish..........everybody else sells their revolvers for very cheap, and let us dinosaurs pick up all the blued (some nickel ) steel and hardwood guns for a song. Fingers Crossed!!!
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Three decades ago I was new to club range shooting. I had been a desert junkyard shooter until they got crowded and unsafe. Someone at the new club suggested shooting at metal plates about 7-10 yards and timing us. The auto boys thought they were supposed to empty 3 magazines in order to hit all 8 targets. When my turn came up I calmly aimed my Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt and shot six targets, I ejected one empty, loaded one round then turned the cylinder and repeated with another round. I registered the cylinder, shot two more targets. I had the fasted time and won a trophy hat. Single actions are for men, spray and prey is for sissys.
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Several years ago one of my buddies set up some kind of reactive shooting course; steel plates etc. I took my S&W 60-4. The rest had high capacity 9mm's. I was also wearing a knife on my belt - a Loveless style Gent's Hunter. One of them looked at it and asked if that was my patch cutter. All laughed at that. But I knocked down 5 plates in a row with the 60-4, and all were impressed. That was along time ago, and probably could not do it now. But the memory still warms me a bit.
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Guess I don't much care whether it's a six-gun or a semi-auto but as an avid re-loader I gravitate towards revolvers 'cause I just about never lose any brass and seldom have to bend over for it. That Ruger will surely serve you well!
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When I've been in a LGS the same question seems
to come up by perspective buyers, especially looking
at autos and the polymers in particular: How many
bullets does it carry?
Any answer under 15 is a turnoff.
If said customer looks at a "pocket" auto and learns
it only carries 6 or 7, it is immediately dropped like
it has the plague.
Often 1911s fare no better than wheelguns among the
new shooters because of their "low" capacity.
Movies often show extreme fire power confrontations.
And in those firefights, people learn they need more
and more and more ammo because 95 percent are misses.
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Why shouldn't they? There are high quality, highly reliable subcompacts and compacts on the market that carry 10-15 rounds. With modern bullet technology in 9mm, what advantage are you affording yourself carrying LESS ammo?
Man with the attitudes on this forum you'd think it was impossible to shoot a Glock or a CZ with a high level of skill and competence by virtue of its magazine capacity.
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At my local gun club, whenever I see someone raking up brass, or bending over to pick it up, I tell them that I use a "green gun." If they have to ask, I explain that my revolver is a "green gun" because it doesn't litter the landscape with brass.
I keep my mouth shut when using an autoloader.
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Several years ago one of my buddies set up some kind of reactive shooting course; steel plates etc. I took my S&W 60-4. The rest had high capacity 9mm's. I was also wearing a knife on my belt - a Loveless style Gent's Hunter. One of them looked at it and asked if that was my patch cutter. All laughed at that. But I knocked down 5 plates in a row with the 60-4, and all were impressed. That was along time ago, and probably could not do it now. But the memory still warms me a bit.
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People seriously underestimate S&W snubs.
I used to live near Microsoft in Washington, and a lot of my friends worked there. They were always getting guys who had never held a gun interested in shooting and I put together a little bit of a line up to help them learn to shoot right from the start. At least handguns, we didn't have a rifle range.
In any case I would start them off with a S&W Single Shot Third Model. Perfect trigger, light, non-threatening, accurate as anything you care to pick up and point at paper, and it had thumb rest target grips that force you to hold it right. That gun taught them that they were a good shot, with that first shot they ever fired, and that any failures after that are just because of how they are holding the gun, or how they are reacting to the recoil.
Moved on up through the guns (a .22 auto to learn automatics, Pre-14 to be introduced to center fire, and so on until they got to shoot a .44 mag if they wanted).
The thing that I always made sure to do though was to pull out my 2' Pre-model 10. I'd have them shoot it single action. The misconception that a short barrel automatically equals inaccurate is immediately dispelled.
I also used to take that gun to the range, put the target all the way to the end, and quickly fire a decent grouping. Not that I'm a good shot, but with single action and a pre-model 10, and a bit of wrist strength, it's not difficult at all to put a pretty tight group of holes on paper at 50'. At least it is with a trigger that good.
It usually stunned everyone around, made them think I was some kind of magic shot. Which was always funny because I am absolutely not.
Out at the rifle range the really fun thing to do is to haul out the old Registered Magnum and put a respectable group on paper at 200 yds. It's... easy. The first time we tried that my group of friends were all able to do it, and everyone was staggered by how easy it was. For people that don't know however, it makes you look like some kind of savant. I highly recommend it.
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All this talk a about singles and no photos??? Here is my Vaquero in 45lc and my Single Six convertible.
I'm currently working a deal on a New Vaquero in 357. I hope my FFL is ready make room for more Tupperware.
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This was my first issued pistol when I was a young recruit:
I see all the young whippersnappers with their doggone whatsits and ding dongs, what those “revolving holster pistol” contraptions! Why, I even heard there was a such thing as a slide operated self loading job out now made of PLASTIC??
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I see you're a late recruit judging by the modern gun you
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You probably would have been confused by a flintlock
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I don't discriminate...round, square, metal, plastic. A good gun is a good gun. Now, some may suit my needs/wants more than others.
I usually carry a polymer double-stack 9mm, but I also carry a snubby revolver BUG. Sometimes I only have the revolver.
While I don't carry them, I love my Colt 1911s, and would like to add more.
I've mentioned this several times in these forums, but my grail gun is a 640ND (ONE DAY!!!).
And I'd love to get a SAA clone, maybe something like an Artillery model.
OP's post reminded me of a story I read, I believe in Ed Lovette's The Snubby Revolver. It was a recruit training class for DEA Special Agents. They were doing scenario training and one of the students secured a revolver during a room-clearing exercise. The problem was the student didn't know how to unload the revolver to make safe. None of the other students knew, either. The instructor gathered them around and showed them. Chances are, that'll probably be the only experience they'll have working with revolvers.
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Dang you Acorn! I used to have a love for Roger BH’s in 45 Colt. Owned at least half a dozen of them. Loved all but the one SS one that came to me with a barrel fit to the frame out of square.
After reading this I am hankering for another. Just something about lobbing those big ol punkins down range with a single action that I miss.
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hard to kill those hundreds of virus zombies expected at any moment in the neighborhood with an old six-shooter.
Living in an age of spray and pray....
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I don't discriminate...round, square, metal, plastic. A good gun is a good gun. Now, some may suit my needs/wants more than others.
I usually carry a polymer double-stack 9mm, but I also carry a snubby revolver BUG. Sometimes I only have the revolver.
While I don't carry them, I love my Colt 1911s, and would like to add more.
I've mentioned this several times in these forums, but my grail gun is a 640ND (ONE DAY!!!).
And I'd love to get a SAA clone, maybe something like an Artillery model.
OP's post reminded me of a story I read, I believe in Ed Lovette's The Snubby Revolver. It was a recruit training class for DEA Special Agents. They were doing scenario training and one of the students secured a revolver during a room-clearing exercise. The problem was the student didn't know how to unload the revolver to make safe. None of the other students knew, either. The instructor gathered them around and showed them. Chances are, that'll probably be the only experience they'll have working with revolvers.
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I spotted a used stainless SBH at a shop and asked to see it. The young lady took it out but when she went to clear it she couldn’t figure how to open it up. No cylinder release. No mag release. She got a little exasperated and handed it to me saying “I don’t know how get these things open”.
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If I can hunt one down this would be a good time to remove another XR3Red plow handle and fit my favorite, a Hunter Grip Frame. While the 7 1/2" Super B's squared guard never has hit my fingers the rounded Hunter guard look better. I never understood why Ruger reverted to the smaller grip frame for shorter barrel Super Bs.
One of our members has a Hunter Grip Frame on his stainless 7 1/2" .45 Colt BH. He should be happy as a clam at high tide.
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Super Bs tend to be very tight grouping revolvers. I much prefer their larger grip over the standard Blackhawk MR3Red. I let them roll in my hand until the muzzle nearly points up. Doing that makes firing standard .44 Magnum cartridges more comfortable than firing them in N frames. Super Bs are great revolvers for hobbyists and hunters. Never mind the kids. You are just as likely to need your Super B. to fight off Big Foot as the "plastical tactical" buyers are to need their new pistol to fight off who ever they're worried about.
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Borrowed a friends Super Blackhawk at the range. The most accurate revolver I've ever shot. Not by a big margin, but more accurate. Perhaps it was because it was an old Super and had thousands of rounds thru it. I was a bit surprised as I am a fanatical N frame guy. And N frames are great shooters. It was, actually, a pleasant surprise. My generous offer to buy was turned down immediately.
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I spotted a used stainless SBH at a shop and asked to see it. The young lady took it out but when she went to clear it she couldn’t figure how to open it up. No cylinder release. No mag release. She got a little exasperated and handed it to me saying “I don’t know how get these things open”.
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Yeah, that would probably be me. I've seen people open the loading gate and use the ejector, but have never actually done it myself. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure I've ever handled a SA revolver. Someday I'll fix that.
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Dang you Acorn! I used to have a love for Roger BH’s in 45 Colt. Owned at least half a dozen of them. Loved all but the one SS one that came to me with a barrel fit to the frame out of square.
After reading this I am hankering for another. Just something about lobbing those big ol punkins down range with a single action that I miss.
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So........Chukar60, who is this "Roger" you so fondly speak of?
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As others have said, the panic buyers want high capacity and low price. Revolvers, 1911s, and higher end guns are sitting while Taurus, Glock, S&W, Springfield, and other polymer guns are flying off the shelf.
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Just not having to bend over to police my brass is sometimes the deciding factor when I reach into the safe.
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All this talk a about singles and no photos??? Here is my Vaquero in 45lc and my Single Six convertible.
I'm currently working a deal on a New Vaquero in 357. I hope my FFL is ready make room for more Tupperware.
Dino or not, I love my single actions.
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Same here. My present favorite is my Lipsey Stainless new model blackhawk in 44 Special. Its the one I carry in an old M3 shoulder holster in wintertime.
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When I shoot,I like to take my time...be it for aiming,squeezing the trigger or reloading.Shooting is a leisure,not a race.
And if you use it for SD and need all those 15plus shots from the polymer guns,I think that you need more time at my favorite leisure stand!A SA revolver was good then and still will do the job in somebody who knows how to use it(with sound tacticals).
The SBK is an excellent buy OP.Congrats(I know,I got one!)
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Jeff, is it the shop in Dravosburg? They are only selling by appointment. Never heard of that before the current situation.
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Allegheny Arms. I believe that's Bethel Park address, down Library Road (Rt. 88) off 51 S. I had the gun sent to them when I bought it through GB from DR Gun Supply. When I bought it, March 16th, I had no idea there was gonna be this rush to the gun shops...stupid me! I was just surprised to see this revolver was available, so I jumped on it. By the time it got to the store Gov. Wolf decided to allow the FFLs to only do business for face to face business, by appt. only.(FFL stuff) I don't know if you've ever used that shop or visited them, but co-owner Josh is a Helluva good smith. Beretta is their strong point, but he's very honest and their people are good. He did a great job on a .45 SA Uberti for me. Great price and very quick turn around. I saw a couple guns in their pre-owned cabinet I wanted to take home...good prices, I think, at least for me!
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Allegheny Arms. I believe that's Bethel Park address, down Library Road (Rt. 88) off 51 S. I had the gun sent to them when I bought it through GB from DR Gun Supply. When I bought it, March 16th, I had no idea there was gonna be this rush to the gun shops...stupid me! I was just surprised to see this revolver was available, so I jumped on it. By the time it got to the store Gov. Wolf decided to allow the FFLs to only do business for face to face business, by appt. only.(FFL stuff) I don't know if you've ever used that shop or visited them, but co-owner Josh is a Helluva good smith. Beretta is their strong point, but he's very honest and their people are good. He did a great job on a .45 SA Uberti for me. Great price and very quick turn around. I saw a couple guns in their pre-owned cabinet I wanted to take home...good prices, I think, at least for me!
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No never have been there. I’ll have to visit them once this Coronavirus stuff settles
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