Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

Firearms & Knives - Other Brands Post Your Non-S&W Gun, Knife, and Blade Topics Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-31-2020, 10:31 AM
torizus's Avatar
torizus torizus is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 492
Likes: 1,085
Liked 533 Times in 234 Posts
Default Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model

Anyone familiar with this model shotgun and it's availability ?

I know they were manufactured mid 60's into 70's as the 1200 with both Police and Marine designations , 2 3/4" & 3" chamber, 18" barrel, in stainless with steel receivers until the 1300 came out.

Briefly used in Nam and Coast Guard during that time but I cannot find any available in whole or parts.
Attached Thumbnails
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-img_4146-jpg   Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-img_4147-jpg   Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-img_4142-jpg   Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-img_4139-jpg   Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-img_4144-jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-31-2020, 10:37 AM
Forte Smitten Wesson's Avatar
Forte Smitten Wesson Forte Smitten Wesson is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,856
Likes: 2,269
Liked 3,239 Times in 1,174 Posts
Default

The 1200 series is known for its reliability, and the fact that it's stainless makes it a real gem. Nobody that I know of makes shotguns out of stainless steel anymore, they just plate their "marine" versions in nickel, chrome, or cerakote.
__________________
RIP .40 S&W (1990 - Present)
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 03-31-2020, 11:47 AM
Texas Star Texas Star is online now
US Veteran
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 20,002
Likes: 23,645
Liked 15,289 Times in 7,105 Posts
Default

The M-1200 suffered by comparison with the prior Model 12 and most didn't think it was as pretty as the Remington M-870, so sales were slow.

I knew David W. Arnold, a senior cop in Rhodesia. David was South African, but immigrated to the USA, where he edited, Petersen's Handguns.

He was a Colt man, but very knowledgeable about guns. He liked his M-1200, so I guess it worked well.

I'm not sure the receiver is stainless. May be plated aluminum.

Last edited by Texas Star; 03-31-2020 at 12:06 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 03-31-2020, 11:53 AM
Maddog 521 Maddog 521 is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,134
Likes: 2,468
Liked 2,731 Times in 1,246 Posts
Default

That is very unique. It would be great to come across one for sale.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 03-31-2020, 12:04 PM
kaaskop49 kaaskop49 is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Demon-class planet
Posts: 6,257
Likes: 23,702
Liked 6,704 Times in 3,083 Posts
Default

IIRC, if you were not holding the fore end on firing, the fore end would move back by itself after unlocking. Can't recall whether the fired shell would eject. A lightweight gun, not expensive.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 03-31-2020, 12:13 PM
torizus's Avatar
torizus torizus is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 492
Likes: 1,085
Liked 533 Times in 234 Posts
Default

I had read somewhere that there was some discrepancy regarding wether the receivers were alloy as opposed to steel.

This one held a magnet so it peaked my interest but all I can surmise from the limited info out there is that they may have made it both, probably initially steel and later alloy.
Sights are really nice for a shotgun, front is a raised brass bead dovetailed into an elevated ramp and the rear is a flip up U with an up arrow/half diaoind and adjust for elevation with marked graduations.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 03-31-2020, 12:17 PM
SAFireman's Avatar
SAFireman SAFireman is offline
SWCA Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Home of the Alamo
Posts: 4,586
Likes: 10,353
Liked 10,042 Times in 2,083 Posts
Default

When I was a young man, my grandfather had one that was carried on his off-shore fishing boat 'To repel boarders', and I had always admired it. I recently inherited it.

I found another at a local gun shop, they didn't know what it was, or how to price it. It came home with me as well.

Here is a quick shot of my grandfathers standing next to a Marlin 1894FG 41 Magnum.

Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-dscf0525_zps4pyeub3t-jpg
Attached Thumbnails
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-dscf0525_zps4pyeub3t-jpg  
__________________
Say when...

Last edited by SAFireman; 03-31-2020 at 12:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-31-2020, 12:22 PM
Ole Joe Clark's Avatar
Ole Joe Clark Ole Joe Clark is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,983
Likes: 6,241
Liked 7,971 Times in 2,007 Posts
Default

If the receiver is magnetic, it is either "normal" steel or 400 (probably 440 SS), series stainless, which is both heat treatable and magnetic.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 03-31-2020, 01:17 PM
Sixgun100 Sixgun100 is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 878
Liked 2,205 Times in 546 Posts
Default

Not a Model 1200, but I do have a Model 1300 Stainless Marine. I have posted this before, but it was my Duty Shotgun and gifted to me upon retirement. They sure are nice looking shotguns! Mine has the outstanding rifle sights and the same stamping on the barrel stating, “Winchester Proof Stainless Steel.” I believe the barrel is only Stainless on this Model and the rest is plated, but I may be incorrect on that.
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-180469aa-16ed-4164-9f35-ea0aa645ffeb-jpg
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-78a91af6-9acc-4a93-a223-9cb54980af01-jpg
Attached Thumbnails
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-180469aa-16ed-4164-9f35-ea0aa645ffeb-jpg   Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-78a91af6-9acc-4a93-a223-9cb54980af01-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 03-31-2020, 01:35 PM
DWalt's Avatar
DWalt DWalt is online now
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Texas
Posts: 27,233
Likes: 32
Liked 19,685 Times in 10,223 Posts
Default

There was also a military 1200. The USAF had some, perhaps other services did also. Those I have seen had the alloy receiver and carbon steel barrels, blued.

The 1200 is a much better design than most give it credit for. I used a Skeet grade 12 gauge for many years, used it for Skeet all through the 1980s and 1990s, and I still have it. Also had a full choke longer barrel for it for Trap shooting. It has a beautifully grained walnut stock and slide, but messed up with pressed checkering. I have put a huge number of shells through it with nary a problem. I am not sure what the difference is between the 1200 and 1300, if any.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #11  
Old 03-31-2020, 04:37 PM
alwslate alwslate is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,713
Likes: 1,611
Liked 3,860 Times in 1,822 Posts
Default

I have a 1300 Defender in blue with the factory 18" barrel. The receiver
is alloy of course. I think one difference in the 1200 and 1300 is the
thicker and possibly harder steel in the barrel for dealing with steel shot.
There are probably other differences as well to improve durability but I
can't say for sure.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 03-31-2020, 05:56 PM
dr. mordo's Avatar
dr. mordo dr. mordo is online now
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 1,591
Likes: 4,668
Liked 2,748 Times in 959 Posts
Default

Nice gun, I now want one.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 03-31-2020, 06:22 PM
max's Avatar
max max is online now
US Veteran
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: illinois
Posts: 5,202
Likes: 1,116
Liked 4,194 Times in 1,398 Posts
Default

I got a 1200 for Christmas in 1963. I actually got it prior to the start of pheasant season, but it was my Christmas.

I had some trouble with it early on. The shell carrier would come up too soon or too late and jam things up. Winchester fixed it. I took it to South Dakota a few years ago and it was good to hunt with it again. I keep thinking I need to take it back for one last hunt together. I am thinking of having the barrel cut from 28 down to 24 or so.

At MP school in 69, we fired a few OO rounds through some plain Jane 1200's.

Last edited by max; 03-31-2020 at 07:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #14  
Old 03-31-2020, 06:28 PM
max's Avatar
max max is online now
US Veteran
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: illinois
Posts: 5,202
Likes: 1,116
Liked 4,194 Times in 1,398 Posts
Default

There is one up for auction now and the price is almost $1300.00. Winchester now makes the SXP Marine Defender which has a chrome plated barrel. It is made in Turkey.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddog 521 View Post
That is very unique. It would be great to come across one for sale.

Last edited by max; 03-31-2020 at 06:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #15  
Old 03-31-2020, 06:39 PM
texmex texmex is online now
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 609
Likes: 250
Liked 1,007 Times in 324 Posts
Default

If I recall correctly, the marine was stainless, then copper plated, then nickel plated. I had one when I worked on Mustang Island. It was pretty much indestuctible.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #16  
Old 03-31-2020, 07:36 PM
DWalt's Avatar
DWalt DWalt is online now
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Texas
Posts: 27,233
Likes: 32
Liked 19,685 Times in 10,223 Posts
Default

Back sometime in the 1960s, Winchester had an idea to start up a chain of franchised trap and skeet clubs around the country, and actually opened some, mainly on the east coast and in the midwest. It never caught on and didn't last very long. I don't know the reason why the clubs failed, but likely because they couldn't attract enough shooters to keep the lights on. Part of the business plan was that the Winchester clubs would have shotguns for rental, Winchester shotguns of course, and you could also buy Winchester guns and ammo there. Many, if not most, of the rental guns were Model 1200 pumps and Model 1400 semiautos, but there were probably others available for rental or sale.

Maybe someone reading this knows more about the Winchester gun clubs and can provide more details about them, as I know no more than what I have already stated.

The Model 1200 12 Gauge I have was purpose-designed as a Skeet gun (22" Skeet choked ribbed barrel, with a pretty good drop in the stock heel), and it had been one of those Winchester gun club rental shotguns. There were also Model 1200 Trap guns and I saw one of those once. I got mine from my wife's cousin in New Jersey, who picked it up when the Winchester club near him went out of business. I imagine it saw considerable use before I got it. That was sometime in the early 1970s, but I don't remember exactly when. I am not sure how much those 1200 Skeet guns sell for these days, but I have seen only one other, plus one 1200 Trap gun. I imagine they don't bring much of a premium price.

Last edited by DWalt; 04-01-2020 at 12:18 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #17  
Old 03-31-2020, 07:53 PM
opaul's Avatar
opaul opaul is online now
US Veteran
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Central NC
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 6,502
Liked 4,903 Times in 978 Posts
Default

Both the 1200 and the 1300 are very good looking shotguns in my opinion, especially with the wooden stock and fore stock. I was surfing around a gun board and found this one for sale in Arizona. It's a 1300 Alaska State Police trade in. I feel fortunate in getting it during the current gun buying frenzy. I saw it not long after it was posted and was able to call and put my name on it. Unfortunately it took longer to ship from AZ to NC than I liked and as fortune has it my LGS is closed to walk in customers and will not open until mid April. As I was giving the fellow my CC info, he made the comment he had never been so busy and could have sold 50 of these if he had them in stock. I'm not sure if it's marked with ASP or not and I don't have anything but this computer screen photo taken from the dealers web site to show it off. So here it is.
__________________
T&P 2016-2024 and Beyond!!

Last edited by opaul; 03-31-2020 at 07:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #18  
Old 04-01-2020, 09:44 AM
stansdds stansdds is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,708
Likes: 3,993
Liked 4,249 Times in 2,098 Posts
Default

I lusted after a Winchester 1200 or 1300 in stainless for a long time. Could not find one for love nor money. I still think a stainless pump action shotgun makes for a great outdoors/harsh environment shotgun.
__________________
VCDL, GOA, NRA
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #19  
Old 04-01-2020, 11:21 AM
Old Corp's Avatar
Old Corp Old Corp is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Coastal NC
Posts: 2,559
Likes: 1,750
Liked 3,739 Times in 1,315 Posts
Default

My only all-weather variant pump-gun is a Remington 870 'Marine Magnum', but know that it is not SS, but apparently electroless satin nickeled.
It, like most all 870's runs 100% and since I grew up with an 870, and carried an issued one for so many years, it feels like an old friend.

A unique pump-gun I JUST missed out on some years back - an Ithaca M37 Riot Gun, walnut stock, satin nickeled all over with 'NAGS HEAD PD' in a large stamp on the port side of the receiver. If you're unaware Nags Head is a small coastal community on our NC Outer Banks, of which I live on the Southern terminus of.
That was their idea of providing something that would hold up in the salt-air environment. Hate I missed out on it.
__________________
Ret'd LEO
SWCA #2275
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #20  
Old 04-01-2020, 11:40 AM
opaul's Avatar
opaul opaul is online now
US Veteran
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Central NC
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 6,502
Liked 4,903 Times in 978 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Corp View Post
My only all-weather variant pump-gun is a Remington 870 'Marine Magnum', but know that it is not SS, but apparently electroless satin nickeled.
It, like most all 870's runs 100% and since I grew up with an 870, and carried an issued one for so many years, it feels like an old friend.

A unique pump-gun I JUST missed out on some years back - an Ithaca M37 Riot Gun, walnut stock, satin nickeled all over with 'NAGS HEAD PD' in a large stamp on the port side of the receiver. If you're unaware Nags Head is a small coastal community on our NC Outer Banks, of which I live on the Southern terminus of.
That was their idea of providing something that would hold up in the salt-air environment. Hate I missed out on it.
Well aware of that as I was raised in Hertford- not far away. I would love to have had a chance at one of those!!
__________________
T&P 2016-2024 and Beyond!!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #21  
Old 04-04-2020, 08:48 PM
Qc Pistolero Qc Pistolero is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: May 2016
Location: 30min SE Montreal
Posts: 1,913
Likes: 145
Liked 1,373 Times in 777 Posts
Default

In the early '70s,my uncle(more a brother to me)and I bought a 1200 with an alloy receiver.We shot a few K rounds through them and even while submitted to rough treatments,not a single time did one gives us fits.
A good friend of us had a Rem 870 and often moaned about his mistake for buying such a heavy gun;if I remember correctly,he was mumbling more on days that we had walked more than 5 miles along rivers in the mud looking for ducks!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #22  
Old 04-07-2020, 04:51 PM
haywood's Avatar
haywood haywood is online now
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: N. Ohio
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 6,639
Liked 1,836 Times in 704 Posts
Default

I have a 1300. It was from the Parma, Ohio Police Department.
Attached Thumbnails
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model-8b296956-2ff0-4b3f-9c9e-77123138886c-jpg  
__________________
Two Revolvers every day
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #23  
Old 04-08-2020, 11:45 PM
Gravygrabber Gravygrabber is offline
Member
Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model Winchester 1200 Police Stainless Model  
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

I love the 1200/1300. I really like the 1300 defenders with the fiber optic front sights. Love to find a pistol grip speed feed stock with the shell holders built into the sides of the stock. Unfortunately all the accessories for the 1200/1300 models have dried up after Winchester went under and they were discontinued.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Winchester 1200 Defender mkess Firearms & Knives - Other Brands 9 03-07-2013 10:52 AM
*Withdrawl* WTS- Winchester 1200 12 GA ar33 GUNS - For Sale or Trade 3 06-23-2012 09:35 PM
WTB: Winchester 1200 Shotgun Barrel sierra255 WANTED to Buy 4 06-15-2012 09:45 AM
Winchester 1200 Defender 3rd Gen Neal Firearms & Knives - Other Brands 6 09-20-2009 08:38 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:31 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)