Hickok45 has done a show on the Nylon 66. It was interesting to watch.

Nice rifle. Don't watch hickok or agree with him most times. He's just a hustler for Bud's Guns.

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I agree. He's a salesman for his sponsor.

I had an Apache Black Nylon 66 years ago that was a fun little plinker. They were great little rifles in their day.

I haven’t watched the vid yet, but I’ve always thought the Nylon 66s were cool 22s.

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The Nylon 66 was and is the MOST RELIABLE .22 automatic yet.

Great guns for a better time. Remington is too stupid to bring them back, but even if they did, they would screw it up considering they haven’t made a good gun in next to 40 years!

I just watched the video. First, they must have gotten some different camera equipment—the video quality is astounding—I guess it’s High Definition (although I don’t know anything about video cameras and am simply guessing).

Second, I have always enjoyed his videos, but they have become increasingly heavy-handed with the ads. Bud’s Guns, Federal Ammunition, Balistol, a precious metal supplier, and a gun smithing school were all prominently mentioned. I guess he needs to do so to support his videos and make money, so more power to him, it’s constant ads on TV and especially football games which are about all we watch.

Third, I thought it was a pretty good review on the Nylon 66. It was nice seeing an old friend and it shooting so well.

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Without Bud's participation he may have ads like non-contributors here whine about.

Pretty good video. I don't watch him often but am a big fan of those rifles.

Hickok found a way to give guys a good evaluation by shooting, comparing and evaluating guns in a manner that has drawn lots of fans. Of course he needs to hawk the goods of his sponsors but what is wrong with? At least he isn’t doing reviews with a typewriter / computer. I think he has more credibility then most gun rag writers.

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Hickok was been hawking ads for a coin collecting/metals group?? What???

Jay—it is APMEX. They even have “Hickok45 Top Picks” on their web-site.

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I don't mind him having sponsors. He has expenses and I wouldn't expect him to shoot up all of his ammo. He made a comment a couple of weeks ago about a $1,000.00 camera. Someone commented on the quality of his video and that doesn't come cheap.

I figure this is a pt job for him. I had a pt job until this virus reared it's ugly head. I used the income for ammo, components and an occasional new gun.

I think he is a good spokesperson for our hobby and passion.

I enjoy watching Hickock's videos. Of course he's going to hawk his sponsors, without them he couldn't afford to make videos! Certainly not be able to supply the guns and ammo from his own pocket. Not sure what others see wrong with this. It's a real world out there and no one I've ever seen can finance his own series of videos. He's not pushing his sponsors a whole lot in the total amount of time in his videos, just mentioning them. I've never bought a gun from Bud's and I get ammo wherever I can find it, not influenced by ads. So I'll continue to watch him, better to have a sponsored video than none at all.

I'm a big fan of the Nylon 66. Mine is the rare Seneca green I got at a bargain, about 99%. I had a brown one with a scuffed up stock and one of my gunshow friends said a guy at a show had a stack of them for $25, so I got one and replaced the stock...or had it done. They're pretty complicated when you dismantle them, lots of parts.

Hickok doesn't "shill" for his sponsors. He mentions them once in the video and then moves on.

I've never liked the look of the Nylon 66, starting from when I began shooting in the mid-70s. It wasn't the stock that turned me off. It's the goofy looking huge blade front sight. It just leaves me cold.

About 5 years ago my LGS had a black 66 with the chrome receiver and scope for $150 and I passed. Decided to get it the next day, but.

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I have two of the brown 66s. I bought one the other was my Dads which I inherited. They are lots of fun to shoot, both my sons shot them a bunch too and each will wind up with one of them someday.
Steve W

My first semi-auto .22 was a basic Mohawk Brown Nylon 66. IIRC, it was bought used at an LGS for $40.
Crazy what they're going for now.

Still remember, getting excited about getting one from an ad that Remington ran, think it was on the back-cover of some outdoor magazines of the day - featured an Eskimo in a stretched-hide kayak, maybe with a dead seal strapped to it and Nylon 66 balanced across the gunwales....
Some narrative about how the Nylon 66 would work in the most punishing of environments, etc, etc.

In today's PC world, that would not fly on so many levels.... cultural misappropriation/exploitation, cruelty to seals, inattention to global warming, etc, etc.

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Back when I lived in the hills of extreme NE Ga, coon hunters used to love the Nylon guns. Lightweight and easy to carry over the steep hills following dogs in the night.

black diamond nylon 66 was my first new gun purchase at 18.. still have it and the box... son wants it... not gunna get it for a long time... hopefully...lol

I don’t know about you Georgia boys, but we Ozark Hillbillies tied clinch knots in 1/8 inch nylon cord and affixed where the barrel left the stock and just below the trigger guard/pistol grip and made an “Arkansas” sling. Made for easier ridge runnin, crick jumpin and tree climbin. It’s nice to have both hands free up in the mountains in the dark.

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The Nylon 66 rifles are incredible firearms. I bought my first one, a real junker, for $60 at a gun show. It was a Black Diamond model, and it was filled with sand - like it was found on a beach somewhere. I took off the action cover and cleaned it out with WD-40. Replaced the cover and it shot like a dream - totally reliable, and accurate, too.

It was a bit scratched up, so I converted it into my "knockabout special" - take it anywhere and it will always perform. Now it's tacticool!



That experience prompted me to build a sizable collection of Nylon guns over the years, and I have a pretty complete collection of all the varieties now. I also devoted a good amount of ink to the 66 in my book 101 Classic Firearms.

I'm a great fan of the 66 breed, and if there is any doubt about them, check the current prices for used examples now.

John



I got this one as new in the box - it's an early one, complete with the round windage knob.

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When I was 7 I went to summer camp for a week. The 22 rifle range used 10 or 12 of the Remington Nylon bolt actions (don't remember the #). Each of those rifles shot 25 rounds of ammo 6 times a day, 5 days a week 12 weeks a year for over 20 years, I'm almost sure they got cleaned once a year! Many of those boys, that was their first firearms experience, The week of camp probably sold more rifles for Remington than a ton of magazine ads!

By the time I was buying 22 rifles for my sons, the Nylon 66 was out of production. But I found the FIE copy and bought 3 on sale in 1988 for $89 each. They have survived very well firing several thousand rounds a summer! They function as well as a Remington, but don't have the resale value!

Ivan

Whether they needed it or not!

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The difference between the Mohawk Brown and the Seneca Green.

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I'm pretty sure the FIE's were identical. Probably bought the tooling from Rem.

I saw one in a LGS last summer, It was gone by the time I made my way back. I thought I might buy it and swap out the stocks. My 66 has a big gouge on it.

IIRC he was asking around 300

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I never was a fan of the 66. It functioned well enough but was pinker grade for accuracy. Guys were having a lot of trouble scoping them. The blued receiver was just sheet metal dust cover with the 3/8” grooves stamped in.
It was hard to zero a scope because of that. It was a good utility grade pinker, not a target gun.

I've never sat down on a bench with one to see how one groups, but I suspect they're about accurate as any semi auto of that era. I never mounted a scope on one and see how it could be a problem. Mine is accurate "enough" for anything I want to do with a .22 with iron sights, which is, in fact, plinking. I've got a couple of accurate bolt .22s that are scoped and they shoot small groups when benched. But that's the important thing; they need a front rest to do so. I doubt I could shoot them any better off-hand than an iron sighted semi.

I wouldn't rely on a Nylon 66 for pin-point accuracy, but for a very lightweight carrying around .22, the accuracy for me is acceptable.

I admit that I am no fan of the 66. It always struck me a Kmart blue light special because of the plastic furniture and I do not find it cosmetically appealing in the least.
Apparently I am missing something. The number of folks here who speak highly of them and the money they fetch on auction sites indicate indicate that I am clearly missing something.
Anybody care to clue me in?

Sorry, but you might now “get it” as it were.

The N66 is one of the greatest rimmers yet. Ultra fantastic, fabulous, light, low recoil, totally accurate, the MOST RELIABLE RIMFIRE RIFLE IN HUMAN HISTORY, unbreakbale, just the PERFECT .22 rifle.

Value on them is absolutely SKYROCKETING. Remington hasn’t made them in over 3 decades. People who own them tend to cling to them for dear life, and for good reason. Those without them are willing to pay exorbitant prices (also for good reason).

IMHO the N66 is THE .22 rifle to own and the most dependable,e and rugged example of a rimfire rifle in human history.

My $.2

I don’t see anything wrong with that. At all.

It is a legal, mutually beneficial relationship for the manufacturers, Hickok, Bud’s, and the viewers.
If you were supplying most of the hundreds of guns he demonstrates, wouldn’t you want credit for it if you were in the gun business?
Hickok presents a nice, easygoing, likable image for our sport that generates sales for our firearms manufacturers and their employees.

I’m just not seeing the downside here.

The Nylon Remingtons were very good rifles and certainly were dependable. I had several Nylons both autos and bolt actions. I know that many say they had them bounce around their trunks for extended periods of time---something I would never do with any firearm. I also had several Ruger 10-22's and they too are equally great, and to me they were a bit easier to shoot accurately because they are heftier. However the very best 22 sporter I ever had was the Weatherby MarkXXII. This rifle was totally superior to all others in every respect and is in a league all by itself---wish I still had it.

Remember wanting one in the 60s.. so cooooool looking and semi... IIRC 14 rds !!!!!

Dad was firm that as a pre-teen/teen I could only have a bolt gun....detachable mags (5rd) were OK....

NO semi/fast shooting and no tube mags with a forgotten round.... safety first.

Mine was a ........Remington 511-X Scoremaster.

I wanted the Nylon 66 as well. My uncle Gregory had one that he'd let me use when we went rabbit hunting. It was light, accurate and reliable. It was also Seneca Green and would be worth a fair bit of money now as they were less common (about 42,000 made as opposed to around 220,000 of the Apache Black and 720,000 of the Mohawk Brown.

I also would have settled for the 10/22, especially the early walnut stock and metal butt plate version. Alas, that didn't happen either, at least until the day I turned 18.

I ended up with a Savage 187C, semi-auto and tube fed, accurate, but not all that reliable and it got worse as the stamped lifter parts wore. You were way more fortunate with your Remington.


That Savage also had a brass magazine follower that looked an awful lot like a .22 LR cartridge. The work around for that was to keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, remove the magazine tube completely, and then verify there was nothing on or in front of the lifter. That in itself was hard enough as the ejection port was small and the view of the end of the magazine tube was limited.

About 5 years later I worked as a riflery instructor at a summer camp and found that tube fed magazines and cocking knobs were the bane of my existence for the safety issues they created. I went to the camp owner and advised that I realized these rifles had been around as long as the camp itself (founded in 1941), but that it was time to replace them with rifles that were safer for kids to operate. He agreed.

In short, I agree completely with your dad about the tubular magazine. Rounds hanging up in the tube and not ejecting as the shooter clears the weapon are a leading cause of negligent discharges, even with adults.

Don't get me wrong, I have several of them (three 9422s, a Model 1890, my dad's old Springfield .22, a half dozen Model 94s, and four Rossi Model 92s) but I'm very diligent when clearing them and very careful to ensure I can see the magazine follower to confirm they are clear.

Never even saw one for sale here in Switzerland, wonder if they exported them to Europe.

I still have my 53-year-old Nylon 66 and it still shoots like the day I got it!

What you're missing is the camp with the 66's. Its about re-living your childhood. I'd much rather have a vintage pump or lever gun. I've had a few 66's, bought a K mart special for seneca green money, a $300 loss, but now I know the difference. Made it up on a 150th anniv model I bought for $140 and sold for $750.

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Check the replies to my Post in this sub-forum on 02-20-2020 titled "Remington Nylon 66-the first USA "plastic" rifle?"

I posed that exact same question (i.e what camp are you in? love them or hate them. The replies were about the same as this thread...more liked them than not.

Mine is a June 1960 date code, Seneca Green and it is well loved by the whole family (9 kids, several DIL/SIL's, and now...the Grandkids of age are thinking it is super cool).

Still accurate for my needs, still doesn't require lubrication, and I don't care about 10 fold value increase ($49.95 new...now probably $400 for a early S.G. in top condition), because I'm not selling anytime soon if ever, it'll probably get gifted to one of the grandkids.

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SWCA#3083, SWHF#570

Still have that Remington...... and slow accurate fire served me well and got me on High School and College Rifle Teams...... 8years

I also spent 3 summers as a summer camp Rifle Instructor.... even with an Instructor, Assistant and the Cabin Councilor it was a chore with ten 10 year old's prone on the firing line. Single shots only..... and ya the rifles were "old".

Man takes the time to set-up a range, repaint targets from the last shoot, purchase more soda pop bottles, spent a few hours of both his time and his son's time making a vid, go through the hassle of receiving and returning loaned firearms, likely carry a hefty insurance policy to cover any potential liability as a commercial operation, why on earth would anyone fault him for getting paid?
Is he supposed to go buy the guns we all want to see shot from his funds instead of having Bud's front them, or spend $ on thousands of rounds of factory ammo each year?
As it is, he gives honest, thorough evaluations about his subjective views on the guns he tests, and makes it clear that's all it is.
I'll bet on one thing, and that is he can likely outshoot his critics...the man is one hell of a gunner.

Just watched several variations of the Nylon 66 sell at auction. An Apache Black gallery model went for $2,900 + 18% buyers premium + shipping+ transfer. I’m figuring about $3,500 all in and it wasn’t even NIB!

I’ve still got the Mohawk brown Model 66 I bought for $99 at the Big 5 Sporting Goods in San Diego back in 1985. I’m guessing it’s worth we’ll north of $500 today. The cheapest one at the auction sold for $600. Who’d have thought?

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Mine sat, unused for quite a few years, in a closet. It looks brand new.
If they're going for that much now I may have to revise my insurance
on my "contents".

Quite a bit more than $400 for a Seneca Green one. I tried to find one for sale to value mine, but couldn't.

Grandpa's favorite rabbit gun for years. I remember throwing a couple behind the seats of his pickup, loading up the beagles and having a blast. I don't recall any of those banged up nylons ever having a malfunction. We also used to shoot nickels off of fence posts so they must have been pretty accurate. I looked into getting a mint copy, but balked at the price. My 795 is good enough for me and it would have just been for nostalgia's sake.

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Only 465 of the Apache Black gallery specials were ever made; it's the rarest of all the Nylon guns.

I own one of the second rarest of the Nylons, an Apache Black Nylon 76 lever action, in perfect condition. Only 1,615 were produced. I lucked out on finding it many years ago.

The picture below shows one of the standard Mohawk Brown 76s, and below it the very rare Apache Black version.

John

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Thanks for the info John. They had an Apache Black 76 that went for $1,600. Also a mint Nylon 11, brown that went for $950 + premiums.

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I have a photo album here of the Nylon bolt actions 10, 11, and 12. These are all from my Remington Nylon collection. It's amazing how the values on these have shot up in recent years. I guess I was ahead of the curve in acquiring these early on.

John

smith-wessonforum.com/members/paladin85020-albums-remington-nylon-bolt-actions.html

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