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Marlin's 2020 Mdl 1895 410 bore UPDATE
Just thought I'd pass this along.
I was looking at Marlin online 2020 catalog today.
Marlin is bringing back the Marlin 1895 410 Shotgun.
I'm looking forward to this one!
I use the 410 exclusively around the Farm for Pests.
The 410 is so much safer around the Buildings.
410's Forever! Bolt Action below.
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Henry has a big hit with their .410 lever gun, so somebody at Marlin saw the light. Always glad to see the old models come back to life.
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I think back in the late 1920s-early 1930s Marlin did make a lever action .410, but they were specially made for Marlin company stockholders. If you owned some minimum number of Marlin shares, you got a shotgun. I don't remember the full story about it. It may also have been cataloged for sale.
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What are the advantages over say, a $300 pump 410?
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Looks for one! How can you beat the look of a lever gun?
I have come oh so close to buying one a time or two, but I stop short trying to think of the times I'd need one suddenly and the chances of me actually carrying it at that time. So I stick with my 44 special with a shotshell or two loaded in front of a a few SWC rounds, and it's almost always there when I need it.
I still want one though. Maybe they'll drop down below a $1,000 now.......
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Just saw one on GB listed at $1,999. Way too steep for me.
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Bored
I was over on the Remington Catalog.
I see they have the 410 Bore available in Shotguns
1100 Semi-Auto and the Great 870 Pump.
Never noticed that before. I seen a Remington 870 410 bore
the other day, I thought it was Vintage One, so I paid no
attention. I bet it was one of the new ones.
Interesting.
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Those old bolt action shotguns were sort of one step up from the single shot guns in some folks eyes back in the day.
They looked like repeaters, but were just bulky single shot guns with a place to carry a couple extra rounds: not as handy as a butt cuff in practice.
As shotguns, at least for wing shooting as opposed to ground-swatting or shooting birds off telephone wires, they were miserable devices: clumsy, bulky and relatively heavy.
They hold no interest for me.
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Priceless Win 9410
I been trying to research this New 2020 Marlin 410 bore. This
thing must be just current, can't find any Reviews of it, even
on Marlin Forum.
Remember when Winchester made a 410 in the '94 (Model
9410)?
I've always liked the Win 9410. Seen one at Cabela's. $1300,
unfired, new in the box, hand tag still on it, and all the paper.
Man, I can remember before Winchester stopped making them,
they couldn't even give them away, seen some under $300
back in the day.
This was before I knew how handy the 410 is around the Farm.
Western-Field Bolt (Slim & Light) 410
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Well I hope they have upped the quality. I have one Marlin jm stamped 336 in 35 Remington. The stuff Remington makes today doesn’t compare with it.
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None unless you just like the 410......I do!..,,I have a 410 under& over/a 410 semi-auto and a Rem 410 pump. I shoot doves/quail and skeet with mine. A 410 Marlin would a thrill.......IF they can make it work correctly.
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Well I hope they have upped the quality. I have one Marlin jm stamped 336 in 35 Remington. The stuff Remington makes today doesn’t compare with it.
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That's probably a whole 'nother thread, but the issues that Marlin experienced after the Remington purchase have been resolved for several years. I have two newer Marlins (made in 2017 and 2018) and they compare and perform favorably to the JM marked Marlins that I own.
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That's probably a whole 'nother thread, but the issues that Marlin experienced after the Remington purchase have been resolved for several years. I have two newer Marlins (made in 2017 and 2018) and they compare and perform favorably to the JM marked Marlins that I own.
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Yeah I did get to fire a few rounds with a friends 1894 44 magnum last year made by Remington. It did feed and eject OK. The overall fit looked decent but wood finish not as great as that Mar-shield Marlin used on their guns way back. Still like that 1894 the best of all of em.
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Henry has a big hit with their .410 lever gun, so somebody at Marlin saw the light. Always glad to see the old models come back to life.
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If I remember correctly, in one of James Arness's movies, his son in law gave him a new lever action Henry in .410. Saw it sometime in the last month when the INSP channel was having their April long Arness celebration.
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That's probably a whole 'nother thread, but the issues that Marlin experienced after the Remington purchase have been resolved for several years. I have two newer Marlins (made in 2017 and 2018) and they compare and perform favorably to the JM marked Marlins that I own.
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I love 410! I have an old Stevens pump that is so-so at best and a 2005 Browning Citori Feather XS with 30" barrels. I use it for Sporting Clays and average in the upper 30's out of 50 (with a 410 high of 41) which is right at where I average with a 12 or 20! I've been shooting about 5000 410 a year and about 2500 28 Gauges also. Small Bores rule!
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If I remember correctly, in one of James Arness's movies, his son in law gave him a new lever action Henry in .410. Saw it sometime in the last month when the INSP channel was having their April long Arness celebration.
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If I remember correctly. It was a Winchester 1887. and it was no .410
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Ivan - say, out of curiosity tell me more on what
you use to Reload that 410.
What Reloading book/data are you using? I've studied
a Lyman Manual a little bit the other day.
I don't Reload for Shotgun yet. I've been buying
6 shot 410s when I find a sale. Last sale was
Cabela's at $7.50/box (Winchester). I stocked up.
Thank you in advance for any Info you give me.
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I’ve personally handled two new Marlington 336s within the past year and BOTH had canted sights and one had a severely misaligned magazine tube.
They still haven’t gotten their act together, not on all of them. At least now they have a massive ugly dot matrix computer label engraved into the sides of the receiver, REAL classy.
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I actually prefer that cool looking code better than that ugly JM mark on the barrel. I mean, why keep defacing the barrels with the initials of a guy that died back in 1901?
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A friend of mine has a Remington Model 48 .410 semi-automatic. Sweet little .410.
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I just hope it is more widely available than Henry's "offering".
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I like .410 Bore, but as weird as this is going to sound, I've been spoiled by the Taurus Judge, and now I'm disappointed when a .410 is just a .410.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm holding out for a combination Lever Action Rifle that's designed to fire everything from .410 Bore straight up to .460 S&W Magnum. It would be like the ultimate, all-purpose Lever Gun. I don't care who makes it so long as it's affordable and reliable.
Why nobody has done this yet is beyond me. You'd think that at the very least Rossi would have made one by now since they're a subsidiary of Taurus, but nope, the closest they've got is the Circuit Judge, and I'm not interested in that.
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I had one, it was just a novelty item to me. Well made. All I did was shoot skeet with it a few times and sold it. Could only shoot 2 1/2" shells of I remember right. Heavy too.
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The little .410 shell is a great round for 45 yards with the right loads for pest and trap shooting and you can use the long 3" shell with the #7 1/2 pellets for maximum range, if needed.
I have a Winchester model 12, in .410 that is used for Dove, Trap and skeet shooting but this weapon cost a little more than just $300.
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Bolt or Slide-Action or Lever Bolt Release
Still watching Forums for any thing about these New 2020
Marlin 410 bore. I must be the only one excited.
We have a new in the box 2019 Mossberg Syn Blk Slide-Action
410 bore that's only been used on Hand thrown Clays, taking
that out next.
I like the Bolt Action. The Pump is Ok. The Lever Bolt Release
Action would be quite the Repeater.
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The little .410 shell is a great round for 45 yards with the right loads for pest and trap shooting and you can use the long 3" shell with the #7 1/2 pellets for maximum range, if needed.
I have a Winchester model 12, in .410 that is used for Dove, Trap and skeet shooting but this weapon cost a little more than just $300.
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There are 3 different velocities for 410. Standard 2 1/2", 1/2 ounce, hunting and skeet loads are 1200-1220fps. 3". 11/16 hunting loads are 1055 fps and 2 1/2" 1/2 ounce Sporting Clays loads are 1290-1300 fps.
The old 2 1/2" and 3" loadings seem to have a long shot string or "net", that you "cast" in front of your moving target. The 2 1/2" Sporting loads seem to behave like all the other gauges, you lead the target and a "ball" of shot that overtakes the target. Usually with a more energetic impact. The different techniques often throw off shooters that are not used to which one to use for the ammo they are using.
AS to a Model 12 in 410: Never say never but the Winchester pump shotgun on that design is a model 42. A factory Model 12 in 410 would be worth thousands of dollars over the normal price for the grade of gun. (there are roomers of Model 42's in 28 gauge, but try to hold one!)
I shoot Sporting Clays with a number of 42 shooters (both Winchester & Browning) and "love" giving them a box of reloads, that are the "Other" velocity than they are using! (Am I evil, or just naughty?)
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Really just the novelty. I had a Marlin and Winchester 410 lever action when I was heavy into lever gun collecting, but for actual use I'd rather have a pump.
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AS to a Model 12 in 410: Never say never but the Winchester pump shotgun on that design is a model 42. A factory Model 12 in 410 would be worth thousands of dollars over the normal price for the grade of gun. (there are roomers of Model 42's in 28 gauge, but try to hold one!)
I shoot Sporting Clays with a number of 42 shooters (both Winchester & Browning) and "love" giving them a box of reloads, that are the "Other" velocity than they are using! (Am I evil, or just naughty?)
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I'm assuming he has 42 as well. I've never heard of a 42 in 28 gauge. I do know making up fake Model 12 28 gauges has become profitable. I once read that there are more fake 28 gauge Model 12's for sale than Winchester ever actually made!
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I'm assuming he has 42 as well. I've never heard of a 42 in 28 gauge. I do know making up fake Model 12 28 gauges has become profitable. I once read that there are more fake 28 gauge Model 12's for sale than Winchester ever actually made!
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A $10 book of serial numbers and dates of manufacture, solves all that very quickly!
……..Winchester...….
Dates of Manufacture
……..1849-2000...…..
by George Madis
my first copy was $5 when that got borrowed the second was $8 ca. 2010
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A $10 book of serial numbers and dates of manufacture, solves all that very quickly!
……..Winchester...….
Dates of Manufacture
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by George Madis
my first copy was $5 when that got borrowed the second was $8 ca. 2010
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I've had Madis's book on the Model 12. It's an excellent work. I may be wrong, but shooting from memory, I don't think the Winchester records tell the gauge, only that it's a Model 12. So if I conman builds a 28 gauge on a 20 gague frame, it's a valid serial number, just don't know what it was originally assigned to.
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I've got a Remington 11-48 in .410 that except for ONE stinking rust pit from Hurricane Andrew , is absolutely spotless. GREAT squirrel gun
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Mossberg 410
I've been still researching on the internet for the New
2020 Marlin Model 1895 410 bore.
A question I have is was the Marlin 410 originally
made on the Model 336 30-30 Cartridge Frame?
It appears at one time that it was avaible to Marlin
Stock Share Holders of Marlin Stock.
I also found referance to Cabela's had a Special Run
of the 410 in the Model 336, 20 years back?
Anyway, I got 3 Squirrels, 2 Gophers, and one Racoon
this last week with our new 2019 Mossberg Syn Blk
Slide-Action 410. It worked with no problems. I like
how you can slide open the bolt, empty the chamber
(and next in coming round) and have it totally
safe/ready for next usage.
I'm still going to keep an eye out for the New Marlin 410.
I still like the Henry X Model 410 too.
Old picture, but you get the idea.
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Update
Update since May 2020. I finally got to handle and inspect a
New 2020 Marlin Mdl 1895 410 shotgun.
Safety First. Opening the Bolt to look in the empty chamber, I
noticed that the Lever Action was very smooth. Closing the
Action and carefully lowering the Hammer, the Trigger was
nice, not heavy or too light.
This model has the Rear adjustable Sight with a light gathering
Front Sight. Sights were centered on Barrel. The screw in Choke
sat nicely in the Muzzle. Checkering was ok, nothing fancy and it
was not press in checkering. All in All it was nice.
There was a Henry 410 sitting there too, so I got to compare the
Weight of both. I think the Marlin felt a little lighter, and just
the lines, look of the Marlin appealed to me.
I thought the Fit and Finish was nicely done.
We'll see what's in the Future for me.
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A new model of Marlin might be unobtainium. I have had an 1894 CSBL in .357 on order for over 5 months now. It is apparently high demand, low production.
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I have a Win model 9410 that I purchased when they first became available. It was my first lever action anything, something I have lusted after since a teenager. It really fills the bill for pest control, just wish the cost of shells were a bit cheaper to shoot.
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