CMP 1911s

LostintheOzone · #51 10-09-2020, 09:17 PM

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Would I get the same feeling doing it as I do with a gun that has been riding along with a GI since 1944? Oh hell no.

Some are WW2 vintage, others are older. Some of the ones the CMP has sold were in service long before WW2, just rearsenaled a few times. The difference is the arched main spring housing. I got a 1911 A1 because I didn't have one. I have several 1911's. None of the new 1911's are A1's as far as I know. They're kinda hard to find.

Golphin · #52 10-09-2020, 09:35 PM

I received mine last year. I don't remember what the number was or the exact date but I have not plans to sell it. I do shoot mild round nose loads through it and love shooting it.

Golddollar · #53 10-10-2020, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sigp220.45

Several guys on the CMP forum did Freedom of Information Act requests, but the information provided didn’t go back very far - seems like all of it was post-Vietnam. I think any documentation beyond that is lost to time.

The letters did reveal many were transferred from Army storage to the CMP in September of 2019, well after they started shipping them to buyers. There was definitely a second batch, which CMP is trying to downplay.

Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. According to Colt my gun was made in 1943, so even only going back to Vietnam era covers most of the life of the gun.

I took it out right away to shoot it, and for an old war time gun it seems to shoot pretty well. It won't go on GunBroker until they pry it from my cold dead hand

glenncal1 · #54 10-14-2020, 11:14 AM

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Well believe it or not I got the call today. Will probably have the gun early next week. Went with field grade, didn't want a parkerized gun. Hoping for one with some character. Will post photos when gun in hand.

Well here it is. Seems typical of other recent guns shown. Ithaca slide RR frame. Can anyone date the frame serial 204306X. Thanks. I think they graded it Field because of some wear spots in the finish. Mechanically seems solid.

Any idea what they will do if the have guns left over after the lottery numbers are all serviced? Just curious.

les.b · #55 10-14-2020, 11:36 AM

Looks great, Jim...

Best Regards, Les

LostintheOzone · #56 10-14-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by glenncal1

Well here it is. Seems typical of other recent guns shown. Ithaca slide RR frame. Can anyone date the frame serial 204306X. Thanks. I think they graded it Field because of some wear spots in the finish. Mechanically seems solid.

Any idea what they will do if the have guns left over after the lottery numbers are all serviced? Just curious.

1944 according to J C Harrison's book. Looks just like mine.

I think that depends on congress and the Army. My understanding is this entire sale was a combination of really good luck and timing. We may have the only ones released, about 18K. I think they may shut the entire program down after the election.

sigp220.45 · #57 10-14-2020, 05:31 PM

If CMP got another 8 or 10 thousand guns (third batch) it would have happened last month. The second batch (according to purchasers' FOIA requests) was received from the Army on 09/19. Maybe the COVID delayed this third batch, maybe not. CMP sure ain't saying.

If so, there may be another open season for packets once all the current folks with numbers get their guns.

I think with the strong chance of a change in administration the program is definitely in danger. i doubt it will be on anyone's radar for a while, though.

Fingers crossed. If they open it up, I'm going in again.

ladder13 · #58 10-14-2020, 05:37 PM

I’m in for another CMP 1911, the real deal.

LostintheOzone · #59 10-14-2020, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sigp220.45

If CMP got another 8 or 10 thousand guns (third batch) it would have happened last month. The second batch (according to purchasers' FOIA requests) was received from the Army on 09/19. Maybe the COVID delayed this third batch, maybe not. CMP sure ain't saying.

If so, there may be another open season for packets once all the current folks with numbers get their guns.

I think with the strong chance of a change in administration the program is definitely in danger. i doubt it will be on anyone's radar for a while, though.

Fingers crossed. If they open it up, I'm going in again.

Check the rules. I think I read that you can only have one. Of course there is always a family member that might qualify.

glenncal1 · #60 10-14-2020, 07:29 PM

My guess would depend on the number of guns they would have for sale. If a bunch of guns are available (either left over from the second allocation, a third allocation or a combo of the two) they would start another lottery. If only a few guns they may just put them on their auction site.

sigp220.45 · #61 10-14-2020, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LostintheOzone

Check the rules. I think I read that you can only have one. Of course there is always a family member that might qualify.

I think its one per drawing period, not one per lifetime.

LostintheOzone · #62 10-17-2020, 10:55 PM

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I think its one per drawing period, not one per lifetime.

If they move as slow as they did in the first drawing (18 months to ship) I may not live to see a second one. But you younger guys can have my second one.

glenncal1 · #63 10-20-2020, 06:19 PM

Got a chance to get to the range today. Gun shot great. Gonna put in a new recoil spring as empties were flying for distance. Very accurate for a combat pistol, wonder when the last time it was shot?

LostintheOzone · #64 10-21-2020, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by glenncal1

Got a chance to get to the range today. Gun shot great. Gonna put in a new recoil spring as empties were flying for distance. Very accurate for a combat pistol, wonder when the last time it was shot?

Many years ago.

I haven't shot mine yet. Maybe never will but I can't guarantee that. I have a Gold Cup when I need a 1911 fix. That ones seen some use and it definitely shows it.

I had (4) 1911's until recently. I just sold 2 of them. The market for used anything is pretty bonkers right now.

glenncal1 · #65 10-21-2020, 02:27 PM

OK-so I was wondering around ebay (always dangerous

) and ran across this holster for the 1911. $40 I figured what the heck. Seems to be in good shape.

wetdog1911 · #66 10-27-2020, 08:57 PM

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I think its one per drawing period, not one per lifetime.

It was a "one per lifetime" when I got mine at age 13 or14 in 1962 or'63, Jr NRA rifle team. Cost was a whopping $25, including shipping and the postman dropped the firearm off at my house. This was the DCM and well before the CMP.

Was stolen in 1972 and I've always wanted another, but thought the "once per lifetime" might still apply to me, since I did agree to those terms.

Was a 1943 Ithaca that had certainly seen combat, just from the lack of finish. I truly loved that pistol and still miss it.

Rob

max · #67 10-27-2020, 09:15 PM

Two different agencies. I would try again if I wanted one.

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Originally Posted by wetdog1911

It was a "one per lifetime" when I got mine at age 13 or14 in 1962 or'63, Jr NRA rifle team. Cost was a whopping $25, including shipping and the postman dropped the firearm off at my house. This was the DCM and well before the CMP.

Was stolen in 1972 and I've always wanted another, but thought the "once per lifetime" might still apply to me, since I did agree to those terms.

Was a 1943 Ithaca that had certainly seen combat, just from the lack of finish. I truly loved that pistol and still miss it.

Rob

wetdog1911 · #68 10-27-2020, 10:42 PM

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Two different agencies. I would try again if I wanted one.

I did download the CMP info web address to ask if that 56 YO "once per lifetime" limit from the DCM is still in effect, since it did come from a completely different agency that no longer exists.

My luck is, they'll ask ... 'You still alive?'

I still want, to hold in my hand, the history that, that Ithaca represented.

Rob

first-model · #69 11-13-2020, 10:51 PM

OK, a question for those of you who are really into 1911's.

I finally got my CMP 1911 out to the range. It's a Parkerized WW2-era Remington Rand frame, Ithaca slide, and undoubtedly a mixmaster of parts inside. Cycled ball ammo just fine and had a really nice trigger break and reset, but I noticed that the slide stop was walking itself out of the frame. Seems that the ear on the top of the slide stop isn't quite high enough to catch the slide.

Any easy fixes for this, or will a gunsmith need to add a bit of metal to the stop of the slide stop to keep it engaged properly?

Mike

sigp220.45 · #70 11-14-2020, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by first-model

OK, a question for those of you who are really into 1911's.

I finally got my CMP 1911 out to the range. It's a Parkerized WW2-era Remington Rand frame, Ithaca slide, and undoubtedly a mixmaster of parts inside. Cycled ball ammo just fine and had a really nice trigger break and reset, but I noticed that the slide stop was walking itself out of the frame. Seems that the ear on the top of the slide stop isn't quite high enough to catch the slide.

Any easy fixes for this, or will a gunsmith need to add a bit of metal to the stop of the slide stop to keep it engaged properly?

Mike

I think I’d contact CMP first. They may send you another slide stop.

If not, I bet it would be cheaper to just buy a slide stop than have a gunsmith mess with it.

stansdds · #71 11-14-2020, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by first-model

OK, a question for those of you who are really into 1911's.

I finally got my CMP 1911 out to the range. It's a Parkerized WW2-era Remington Rand frame, Ithaca slide, and undoubtedly a mixmaster of parts inside. Cycled ball ammo just fine and had a really nice trigger break and reset, but I noticed that the slide stop was walking itself out of the frame. Seems that the ear on the top of the slide stop isn't quite high enough to catch the slide.

Any easy fixes for this, or will a gunsmith need to add a bit of metal to the stop of the slide stop to keep it engaged properly?

Mike

Replace the slide stop, that's the fix.

Toddlars1 · #72 11-14-2020, 09:59 AM

They are currently shipping in the mid 17000's

Wyo · #73 11-14-2020, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wetdog1911

It was a "one per lifetime" when I got mine at age 13 or14 in 1962 or'63, Jr NRA rifle team. Cost was a whopping $25, including shipping and the postman dropped the firearm off at my house. This was the DCM and well before the CMP.

Was stolen in 1972 and I've always wanted another, but thought the "once per lifetime" might still apply to me, since I did agree to those terms.

Was a 1943 Ithaca that had certainly seen combat, just from the lack of finish. I truly loved that pistol and still miss it.

Rob

I got a “one per lifetime” M1 Garand from DCM back in the early ‘80’s, then I got another two dozen or so M1’s from CMP after that agency took over the M1 sales. I would assume the rule would be the same for handguns.

wetdog1911 · #74 11-14-2020, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stansdds

Replace the slide stop, that's the fix.

And, they can be found for under $20 or so. I had to replace one for a Colt Series 70 top end that had been over polished and, IIRC, it was $12 shipped, new. Just popped right in.

Rob

jeeps · #75 11-14-2020, 02:23 PM

Close to 18,000 today!

smoothshooter · #76 11-14-2020, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Art Doc

All I know about the CMP 1911s is that it appears every one of them immediately gets listed on Gunbroker.

Fast buck artists.
No appreciation for history.

Rocketman1954 · #77 11-20-2020, 11:36 AM

Just got my call 11/18 And placed an order. My number was 179xx.

andyinlz · #78 11-20-2020, 12:15 PM

Let the second round begin:

1911 Information - Civilian Marksmanship Program

Rocketman1954 · #79 12-02-2020, 11:50 PM

Well it just arrived today. Nice Remington Rand serial number states 1944 manufacture . Some minor nicks and scratches, but overall very nice condition for a 76 year old war piece.

stansdds · #80 12-03-2020, 08:24 AM

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Well it just arrived today. Nice Remington Rand serial number states 1944 manufacture . Some minor nicks and scratches, but overall very nice condition for a 76 year old war piece.

And the pictures are where? Come on, show us the gun p0rn.