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Fly fishing and you slip and fall.
Glock gets wedged muzzle up in some rocks.
Kid goes to pick it up, slips and finger hits the trigger.
A thumb safety would be helpful.

Has anyone installed a thumb safety on their G gun?
Military trial gun had one... which one and is it available?

I always carry the M59 or these days mostly the S&Walther PPKs when kids are around.

Please keep the discussion to the install and product quality.

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and no, it's never happened to me.
I find the Glock triggers like a sloppy single action.
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Seen plenty of movies where they say they put their Glock on "safe", but they don't know what they're doing over in Hollyweird.

To be truthful, that's why I got rid of my 19, that and it didn't point naturally for me. But they are darn sure reliable.
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Tommy Lee Jones in Fugitive 2 said, "Get yourself a Glock!" Nuf said.
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There are plenty of good guns w/ safeties, why not just buy one instead of trying to modify a Glock to avoid Glockkaboom?
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Only Glock I recall with any kind of operable lever control was a full-auto version with a selector switch.

I love reading books with the character clicking off the safety of a Glock, or better yet cocking the hammer!
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Ten Ring Precision installs a manual safety.

That being said, if youíre not using a proper holster and your gun falls out, leave the gun at home.

Or buy an M&P with a manual safety.
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A safety on a Glock is about as necessary as a parachute on a claw hammer.
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No such animal outside of prototypes that I’m aware of.
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I have a Gen2 Glock 23 with a Cominolli thumb safety. However, I do not consider it a good thumb safety and the gun resides in the safe waiting to be sold. The problem is the safety would not stay engaged while carrying in a holster. I suppose I could have a kydex holder made for it with the safety engaged, but I really don't like the gun or the safety that well anyway. I have since purchased an M&P 2.0 40 to replace the Glock 23, and a 4 inch Shield to replace my Glock 48. The S&W thumb safety is not as good as a 1911 safety, but better than nothing.
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Ten Ring Precision will install an after market manual safety on most non Gen 5 Glocks. Glock Pistol Work | Ten Ring Precision

Packing any striker fired pistol without a safety not a great idea when wearing waders, fly vest, carrying flyrod, wading staff...I flyfish plenty, and just pocket my holstered LCP Gen1.
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BH Spring Solutions offers a Glock safety about which I know nothing from personal experience. I've seen it on their website and it seems to fit on the back of the pistol (where a hammer might belong).

My only endorsement is that I know and trust the guys at BHSS and have a number of their Hi-Power products.
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Ten Ring says theirs has a positive engagement and disengagement.
Saw the BHSS but the link was down.
Will check again.
thx all
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Lotsa proper holsters and guns to choose from.

Just want information on what's on the market from those with experience.
Have no interest in making one but maybe for our BT99 as we all like that shotgun.
Looked at some that were/are on the market years ago.

870s have left hand too far forward for me but a forearm that allows the hand to be closer to the receiver has merit and has been measured for and will be made.
An inexpensive Trap and Wobble gun made right.

I just used the fly fishing as an example because some Glocksters/youngsters haven't met Murphy.

I fish with the M59 and carry a 357 Snub revolver in the field.
The LCP is my kayak fishing gun.
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Glocks made for Australia had a safety in Sam position as the selector switch on Glock 18. Per their request
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Buy a Sig M18. Done.

I love Glocks too, but would never have one with a safety. Buy a good holster and you don't have to worry. Ever.
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The M59 has handled the dirty 9mm chores for decades, but I'm a 45ACPer and a better plastic gun than the LCP for the kayaks, yard work type wet environment is our G36.
It just sat in the safe for the last decade or so.

1911s, BHPs, Sigs, the other metal guns and revolvers have their uses.

Just want to put a thumb safety on the G36 if they are not junk and get a fully supported barrel when they are available again as a drop in.
Don't need a Bar-Sto $$$ on a G36.

A Ruger Officer in 45ACP is on the list after an N Frame 357 for business/stock making.
Sig220/45 and P210 as well.

Getting some X frame grips completed soon ... YEA!!!......and a run of 1911s etc etc.... the easy stuff.

Appreciate the advice.

Kayak fishing in the Keys, when the current/tides are ripping around the bridges, drifting or changing fore/aft anchoring, large fish feeding etc etc is heads up or you can get in trouble fast.
Ain't Bass fishing in flat water on an overweight Hobie.
Been fishing the white/red boat for decades.
Bait bucket behind the cockpit.... Cuda safe!
Foam filled as kissing the bridge supports hard happens.
All tackle etc in the vest.
Fish caught at my feet.
We hunt with fishing rods in South Florida.
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Got news for you. There is indeed such an animal.

Our Police requested it from Glock on their contract.

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In regards to the trials Glocks... the 19X is the gun without the safety. I doubt Glock will publicly do any of their pistols with an external safety.

Whenever Glock publicly releases the 47... youíll have pretty close to the full size of the trials gun; again, without the safety. Unsure if they will be marked DHS, but from what has been said... they will put them out once CBP finishes the move from H&Ks.
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In regards to the trials Glocks... the 19X is the gun without the safety. I doubt Glock will publicly do any of their pistols with an external safety.

Whenever Glock publicly releases the 47... youíll have pretty close to the full size of the trials gun; again, without the safety. Unsure if they will be marked DHS, but from what has been said... they will put them out once CBP finishes the move from H&Ks.
See my post just before yours.
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See my post just before yours.

Reread what you quoted... especially the publicly part.
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Reread what you quoted... especially the publicly part.
You mean for private aquisition then?

I considered an official contract "public" enough. My bad.
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Fly fishing and you slip and fall.
Glock gets wedged muzzle up in some rocks.
Kid goes to pick it up, slips and finger hits the trigger.
A thumb safety would be helpful.

Has anyone installed a thumb safety on their G gun?
Military trial gun had one... which one and is it available?

I always carry the M59 or these days mostly the S&Walther PPKs when kids are around.

Please keep the discussion to the install and product quality.

Thx
RT

and no, it's never happened to me.
I find the Glock triggers like a sloppy single action.
The same people who are not comfortable with Glocks should probably stay away from farm equipment, chainsaws, motorcycles, do it yourself electrical projects, and ginsu knives.
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Fly fishing and you slip and fall.
Glock gets wedged muzzle up in some rocks.
Kid goes to pick it up, slips and finger hits the trigger.
A thumb safety would be helpful.

Has anyone installed a thumb safety on their G gun?
Military trial gun had one... which one and is it available?

I always carry the M59 or these days mostly the S&Walther PPKs when kids are around.

Please keep the discussion to the install and product quality.

Thx
RT

and no, it's never happened to me.
I find the Glock triggers like a sloppy single action.
One thing worth noting is that if one falls while carrying a Glock and it falls out because the person does not consider gun safety important enough to wear a quality holster, and it bounces around on some rocks and maybe falls in the water before it gets wedged between some rocks, and then the user carelessly picks it up and pulls the trigger as they mishandle the gun, then be advised that after going through all that careless abuse the user can count on the Glock firing because it's that reliable.
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You might consider one of these trigger holsters, if you are not planning on carrying in a regular holster.

The Zacchaeus(c) Concealment Holster - Dale Fricke Holsters
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Sounds like a stainless revolver would be a better choice for that application, secured in a good thumb break holster!
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Fly fishing and you slip and fall.
Glock gets wedged muzzle up in some rocks.
Kid goes to pick it up, slips and finger hits the trigger.
A thumb safety would be helpful.
And in the same scenario the safety could get disengaged and you're back where you started.

That's an awful lot of low probability events happening. Not that it's impossible, but it's like having a plane crash on top of you just after you were struck by lightning.

I've only heard of the Cominolli thumb safety for the Glock, but have no experience with it.

Another option might be installing the NY1 trigger spring. It'll make the trigger pull heavier, so lessens the risk of an unintentional discharge in your scenario. When I had a Glock I used the NY1/"-" connector combination, which kept the same trigger pull weight but had resistance over the full length of the trigger pull so it was closer to that of a revolver.

There's also the Striker Control Device. It replaces the cover plate on Glock slides. When pressed down, it locks the striker in place so the gun can't be fired. It's normally used as a safeguard when holstering, but in your scenario you could pick up the gun while keeping a thumb on the SCD for extra safety.

Personally, if you really want a gun with a manual safety, you'd probably be better off getting one designed that way from the factory, like the M&P.

Or you could just get a good quality holster with adequate retention and practice safe gun handling skills.

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Got news for you. There is indeed such an animal.

Our Police requested it from Glock on their contract.

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Interesting. This is the first time I have heard of a safety like the one in the pic. Makes me wonder if your police could also request they be made without that hideous hump on the backstrap? Thanks for posting the pic.
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That's an awful lot of low probability events happening. Not that it's impossible, but it's like having a plane crash on top of you just after you were struck by lightning.
Wait! Wait! Wait. You forgot the polar bear.
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Iíve seen ads for after market 1911 style safety levers on Glocks, never handled one & donít see the need for it.
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Interesting. This is the first time I have heard of a safety like the one in the pic. Makes me wonder if your police could also request they be made without that hideous hump on the backstrap? Thanks for posting the pic.
Probably. But apparently it was of no concern for them.

JFY.

First Glock I ever tried was a 17. It was accurate and reliable.

I tried one of the police Glocks too. It was accurate and reliable(I understand the first ones had problems with the safety, but whatever the problems were they were gone when I tried it). The "hump" didn't bother me a bit. The same way it's just the same for me firing a 1991A1 with a "humped" MSH or a Gold Cup with a flat MSH.

Edit. Just a reminder. Our Police contract was what can be considered a " small contract" we are a small Country, with a proportionally small police force.

Edit 2. And no, I don't own a Glock.
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If dropping your Glock into a rocky river while fly fishing and then having a child retrieve it is a common occurrence for you then I would gently suggest keeping the chamber empty until needed. Just practice racking the slide as part of your pre-fire/unholstering technique.

Even safeties can fail or be accidentally moved to "fire" under the worst of circumstances.

I'm not anti-Glock, as I keep a Gen3 21c around for this and that...ÖÖ.but there are times when it is kept with a round in the chamber, and other times when I feel more comfortable without a round in the chamber.

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If I recall there was an after market device that fit behind the trigger and it had to be pushed out to fire
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The Glock 19X is the civilian model of the Military submission. The Military had a thumb safety, the 19X doesn't. I am a Glock armorer, but by no means a Glock expert, not sure about the Gen 3 that was posted about having the option for thumb safety. I do own a 19X, I have to admit it...I like the way it shoots, great pistol.
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I don't like those. In a self defense situation, the only thing I want the trigger finger to do is pull the trigger. Adding that extra step sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
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Saf-T-Blok. Many years ago I bought 4 of them and lost 2 of them. Don't use them anymore.
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U miss again - Ha - IF a person or you fall while fly fishing and loose your no extra safety handgun from your holster then You sir need a better holster and get rid of the junk you use now .

My holsters retain there pistols when upside down and given a good shake - Invest in a better quality holster .
Why a ppk when kids are around . If its a OHHHH look it's a gun thang then educate the children or you learn how to conceal better !!
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At the root of the theoretical issue of a Glock getting away from you when you slip and fall while fly fishing has an incredibly simple solution. Use a holster that is securely fastened to you and has excellent retention for the pistol.

Don't be reactive, be proactive and take measures to prevent the loss of control of the firearm.
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Ask a simple question about an aftermarket or the factory military trial thumb safety and request to keep it to the install and product quality and low and behold.
Appreciate the information that addressed that.

If I didn't have the G36 laying around for 12 years or so I'd buy a new M&P 2.0 45 with a 3.3" barrel and a thumb safety.
The fish tale was to hopefully prevent " glock armorers" from saying it don't need one.

A lanyard on any fishing gun worth not loosing is prudent.
Wish I had a SS 357 to put to salt water use.
Have a 63-3 but it's for the grandkids.

Ten Ring's looks like a possibility as it functions like a 1911.
Was hoping to install whichever myself but might visit them when headed to the Rockies.

Appreciate the other sage advice/replies as well.

First holster I made, in the late '60s, was a crossdraw, thumb snap, basket weave for my HS 22lr auto.
The guys on the SAC smallbore team and the crew in the T1A shop etc ...schooled me on firearms and many things including when you're having fun doing stupid tricks in an airplane keep lotsa air below. That advice and always have a place to land in view came in handy one day.

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Ten-Ring and Tarnhelm Supply, and others, are offering installations of the Cominolli Safety. The OEM site of Cominolli is down right now. Years ago, I installed one in a G19, and they work. I could see how a holster that was not designed around having a safety on the gun could cause interference with the safety once it's installed.

That THING from BHS looks like a goiter, LOL...but heah....if it floats your boat.
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Thr Glock design is supposed to prevent accidental discharge when dropped!

There are several after market kits for adding a thumb safety. Google is your friend!

I carried a G-22 as a Deputy for 8 years. They are OK without a T/S when the operator is properly trained and have the proper holster.

I have a Ruger SR9 in EDC. I think it is a better option for that purpose.
It has the "Thumb Safety" option. It is NOT raised as in the 1911 style T/S.

The only time it is used is during holstering to prevent "Glock leg" and when not in the holster during "night stand duty"!

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Only Glock I recall with any kind of operable lever control was a full-auto version with a selector switch.

I love reading books with the character clicking off the safety of a Glock, or better yet cocking the hammer!
But you have to be able to cock the hammer on a Glock!! I saw it in numerous movies .
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I had a Glock 21 with a Ten Ring thumb safety. The thumb safety wasn't reliable. It would occasionally lock the trigger up when the safety was off. Removed it and later sold the gun.

I have SCD's on my Glock 19's. IMO, if you carry appendix it's a nice safety feature to use when holstering.
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I have SCD's on my Glock 19's. IMO, if you carry appendix it's a nice safety feature to use when holstering.
I don't appendix carry, but even on the hip I'd probably get a SCD if I ever get a Glock again. I'm trained and habituated to put my thumb on the hammer while holstering. I even do it on my 642s.
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A buddy of mine bought a G32 off of GB years ago. it had a frame safety. I got to handle it. I'm used to regular glocks so thumbing the safety was unnatural.

My buddy got rid of it, probably, for the same reason or maybe it was that fact that G32s in 357sig are unpleasant to shoot.
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Many members have commented that the loosing a gun out of holster is because you don't have a quality holster. My hunting lease is in the mountains of Eastern Oklahoma and we ride 4 wheelers to get around and the rocky trails are pretty rough and there is a lot of bouncing and thrashing about. We have hogs and have seen some big black bears on game cameras and I'm usually carrying a M28, Browning HP, or Ruger Security Six in a Bianchi or DeSantis thumbreak leather holster. Once I was riding with an AR-15 slung on my back and the bouncing ripped the sling swivel off the steel front rail and luckily I caught the rifle before it hit the ground. There is no doubt in my mind that a handgun can pop out of a secured thumbreak holster during those rides so I normally put my gun in the front rack bag. There have been a lot of LE officers rolling on the ground with perps over the years and the gun falls out of their holster so, yes it can happen even with quality rigs.

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A buddy of mine bought a G32 off of GB years ago. it had a frame safety. I got to handle it. I'm used to regular glocks so thumbing the safety was unnatural.

My buddy got rid of it, probably, for the same reason or maybe it was that fact that G32s in 357sig are unpleasant to shoot.
I'm sure the "add on" thumb safety was a "solution" to the Glock "leg" when holstering. Some holsters guided middle fingers into the trigger guard and could engage the trigger.

The T/S on my Ruger SR9 is nearly flush with the frame and not meant to be used after the draw. After all it has the "Safe Action Trigger", right!

I only use the T/S during holstering to eliminate the possibility of N/D's!

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As long as we are telling stories, around 10-12 years ago I was riding my son's scooter/moped, and wrecked it. Due to driver inattention I went off the road into a ditch and before I could get it slowed down the front wheel caught and cocked. The immediate decerration threw me over the handlebar into the the ditch face first. I slid to a stop face down. If I had not been wearing a full face helmet I would have suffered some serious face rash, or worse. Going over the front so violently tore the hamstring of my left leg. I did not know this and when I tried to stand I fell right down. Hurt so bad I thought I had dislocated my hip. Could not find my cell phone which had been in my shirt pocket. Had to wait about 10 minutes for someone do drive by on this county road and stop to help me. I had him call my cell phone and it was under the scooter. I won't go into any more details about the injuries, but I was carrying my Colt Lightweight Commander in a Fist leather OWB holster with no thumbreak or strap. At some point I checked my holster and the Commander was still in it, still in condition one, with no sign of damage.
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A safety on a Glock is about as necessary as a parachute on a claw hammer.
You've never seen me use a hammer.
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There's also the Striker Control Device. It replaces the cover plate on Glock slides. When pressed down, it locks the striker in place so the gun can't be fired. It's normally used as a safeguard when holstering, but in your scenario you could pick up the gun while keeping a thumb on the SCD for extra safety.
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I have SCD's on my Glock 19's. IMO, if you carry appendix it's a nice safety feature to use when holstering.
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..I'd probably get a SCD if I ever get a Glock again. I'm trained and habituated to put my thumb on the hammer while holstering. ..
Were I to have a say in the matter, the TAU Striker Control Device would be installed on all issued Glocks. It simply replaces the OEM slide cover plate. Works ad-advertised. Anything that would snag and move the trigger is instantly felt against your thumb.
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But you have to be able to cock the hammer on a Glock!! I saw it in numerous movies .
Saw it on movies or read it on books?

Writing it is easy enough. Getting a Glock with an hammer to show in front of a camera. Not so much.
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