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Old 06-03-2020, 12:36 PM
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I know this is probably the last place to look for help on not buying guns...

Was looking at the auction sites, classifieds, and just browsing and I get a call out of nowhere from my uncle. He has located two Model 12's that are in like new () condition. One in 12 g and the other in 20 g.

There is just something about old Winchesters and these shotguns just have a timeless appeal.

Here is a photo of the 12g.
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Now you need a 16 and 28 !
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Old 06-03-2020, 12:45 PM
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^^^^I heard the 28's are hard to find and pricey.
Dang it, I just found one on a popular auction site.
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Local Cabelas usually has lots of them. Beautiful old guns at relatively cheap prices
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And several thousand dollars if you're going to buy a 28.
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Old 06-03-2020, 01:30 PM
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Still have my dadís that he bought in 1934, 30Ē full choke. Built in the 20ís. I restored it and it rests in my safe. He said he paid $35 for it then. At that time that was a good deal of hard earned cash for a 19 year old Kansas farm boy.
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Still have my dadís that he bought in 1934, 30Ē full choke. Built in the 20ís. I restored it and it rests in my safe. He said he paid $35 for it then. At that time that was a good deal of hard earned cash for a 19 year old Kansas farm boy.
I have my grand-dad's Model 12 - same configuration, bought new in 1924. It sill looks almost new.
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Old 06-03-2020, 03:56 PM
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When I say I restored it I actually was working I a gunsmith shop as a service writer. The guys guided me in bead blasting it and repolishing it before rebluing in hot tanks. Had to do it twice as the old nickel steel is temperature sensitive to the bluing process.

Refinished the wood also. Gave it seven coats of Winchester Red oil. The stock still had the scratches in it that dad put there crossing barbed wire fences.
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I too have a M 12, 20 ga. from my father. He purchased it in Las Vegas the week I was born. He told my Mom that he bought it for me and would give it to me when I was legal to hunt. I did get the 20 ga. at the age of 12, but since my Dad didn't really take care of his guns, it was in bad cosmetic shape. Eight years later while working in the custom gun shop and going to college, I totally refinished it and made a few small repairs. It will never be sold and will go either to a grandson or his now three y.o. son. No matter which it goes to it will be in like new condition and not the haggard condition like when I received it. .... :-)
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The finest pump shotgun ever produced. Followed closely by Rem 31 and Ithaca 37.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:45 PM
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Yes. This 12 ga. will be handed down to my grandson also. Itís not been fired since I restored it three years ago.
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Everyone needs at least one Mod 12. I couldn't pass up a Mod 12 featherweight in Imp Cyl. Heck of a bird gun, and does alright on the skeet field (when I can remember to pump it).
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I actually prefer the 31 Remington of those three, and the 870 Remington above them all for actual use. I feel the Model 12 design is too complex and many parts aren't easily replaced without lots of fitting. But or collecting they're the top pump gun for sure. I do have a few very nice Model 12's in my collection. I have one super nice Model 12 Duck Gun that was made the year my father was born that I'll never get rid of.
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There’s no reason one of those couldn’t be put to use for home defense, even today.

These old Model 12s can slamfire, meaning you can hold down the trigger and pump as fast as you can and each time to bolt closes the round will automatically fire.

6 rounds of 00 buckshot slamfired into a home intruder would give him a really bad day, that’s for sure!
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Thereís no reason one of those couldnít be put to use for home defense, even today.

These old Model 12s can slamfire, meaning you can hold down the trigger and pump as fast as you can and each time to bolt closes the round will automatically fire.

6 rounds of 00 buckshot slamfired into a home intruder would give him a really bad day, thatís for sure!
Trust me, you don't want to do that. It will give your shoulder a pretty bad day too. I've tried it once. Once is enough.
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If you're in the market for a 28ga Winchester Model 12,,do some homework on them first before buying.
There's probably more of them out there that are aftermarket conversions from 20ga guns than orig Factory built 28ga guns.
The Factory did build them on the 20ga frame.

For a time the factory 28ga bbls and other necessary parts were available and there was quite an industry making up those guns, many in grades higher than plain Field grade.
There are some things to look for and some ser# ranges are a better probability of originality than not. But that ser# range isn't a slam dunk to say it's orig.

Nothing wrong with many of the conversions. Many are very professionally done,,they've fooled lots a collectors!
But you don't want to pay the price of an original and get someone's conversion project.
Little or no Factory records available to check much on Model 12's.

Lots of on-line info available.


Model 12's have certainly proven themselves, no doubt about that.
I think they're a fine pump gun too.
I've never personally owned one. I just tend to go for the more obscure offerings.
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<update> Really nice 16 identified and coming home Saturday morning.

One more to go.....
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have a mod 12 3 in magnum it all so sports a machinged bolt in mint cond.
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I only own one Model 12, a 20GA with serial #45, First week gun? Neat gun and all original as many had the ejection port altered for the longer shells.
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I'm a Model 12 fan to the bone and I shoot them at the gun club and in the pheasant fields over my fine Brittany bird dogs.

The 12 gauge below is a rescued police issue that has been rebuilt for general field use and trap shooting. When rebuilt, I used a 30" barrel with the forcing cone relieved for steel shot and interchangeable, steel capable chokes. 25 pigeons on the trap or skeet range is never out of the question with it.

The 20 gauge (Modified choke) is virtually unfired as well as the Model 42 in 410 gauge.
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Ok now, I have to stop looking at these beautiful Model 12's.......
But........ I can't. I have a 16 ga that I purchased about 3 years ago at a LGS for $200.00, and a 20 gauge that I bought from "Two Gun" Carter, a local gun shop owner, in October 1963, almost 57 years ago. I have busted a bunch of cottontails, and missed my share of doves with the 20. Only function test fired the 16. Now if I only had a 12 gauge......

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Ok now, I have to stop looking at these beautiful Model 12's.......
But........ I can't. I have a 16 ga that I purchased about 3 years ago at a LGS for $200.00, and a 20 gauge that I bought from "Two Gun" Carter, a local gun shop owner, in October 1963, almost 57 years ago. I have busted a bunch of cottontails, and missed my share of doves with the 20. Only function test fired the 16. Now if I only had a 12 gauge......

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We have two, one is 20 ga, from Grampa. The other is a 16 ga, both in fine shape.

Yes, even in this latest gun rush, prices should be fairly reasonable. They’re not part of the ‘tacticool’ buying frenzy.
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Fine guns. I have 2. My Dad's 12 ga w/2 bbl assemblies 32" full solid rib and a 27" cylinder bore. My 20 I bought in the early 80's have a 28" mod plain barrel. The nickel steel barrels on the 12 ga. are mirror finished inside and still look that way.....Not bad for a gun that was made in 1918.
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I acquired this Model 12 Skeet Grade from its original owner who bought it new in 1941. He ordered it with the factory Cutts Compensator option.

The Cutts makes it ugly but for dove hunting or duck hunting over decoys it is so fine.
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What about a .410?

I bet that is a pricy one.
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Back in the 70's the Winchester model 12 was one of the top trap guns in Nevada , for taking home the money and prizes.

It also did very well in the field and I don't think there is any other shotgun pump that is as easy to take apart and store in two sections, like it does.

I even have one in the little .410 for skeet and Dove hunting.
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I picked up an older Mod 12 with a full-choked 30" barrel (?). Bought it for $250. Cut it down to 20" and mounted a sling, bayonet stud, etc. to make a faux trench gun. Now my "house shotgun". Loaded with turkey loads, buck and slugs, alternated.
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I was moving some papers in the music/reloading room this morning and came upon a 1962 Winchester catalog. Shows a lot of beautiful firearms from the era of blue steel and walnut.

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The model 42 is the Winchester .410 offering. I am trying to find one at a decent price...$1,500.00 seems to be going rate.
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My first shotgun to quail hunt with at age 11 was a Mod. 12 in 20 gauge.
It had a 28 in. improved cyl. barrel. My dad bought it for me used for
$40.00.
I'm sorry to say I let my older brother talk me out of the Mod. 12 when
I was 17. He said he would keep it for life, then when the hunting
season was over he traded it for a S&W 38 special and drew some boot.
My oldest brother had dad's Mod. 12 in 12 gauge and he killed 100's of
quail, lots of pheasants and ducks with it. His son, my oldest nephew
has it now.
When I drove an armored car for a couple years the company issued
the drivers Mod. 12's and Mod. 97's with 00 buck. I never felt under
gunned.
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Model 12's are GREAT GUNS!! I've never owned one but have shot a few.
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