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OK these were also purchased this week.

Mosin Nagant with matching #'s.

Mauser M98 8mm

Of course two of the rifles that were on the list the gentleman that was selling said that he was keeping one and the son of his deceased friend was keeping the other as his dad told him years ago to keep it.

Those were a Springfield 03-A3 & a Springfield M1 Garand.

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I'm not a fan of the Mitchels Mausers company. They've butchered some good mausers with their refinishing. But I'm the type that doesn't like to see collectible guns altered.
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The Mosin has an unusual extra stock reinforcement in the wrist area. No doubt done during one of the Soviet refurb programs. What year and factory are shown on the barrel shank?

That Mauser stock is odd. There's no bolt disassembly washer but it does have a WWII German style sling slot. Maybe that's a Mitchell's Mausers thing, unless the came off another Mauser like a WWI 98AZ.
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That Mauser stock is odd. There's no bolt disassembly washer but it does have a WWII German style sling slot. Maybe that's a Mitchell's Mausers thing, unless the came off another Mauser like a WWI 98AZ.
Mitchell's was bad for selling M48's as K98's. From the photo, that might be an M48. I can't make out the handguard, but notice the polished bolt and safety.

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Looks like 1943 on the Mosin....not sure of the factory??

The Mauser says Model 98.....does the stamping to the left of that designate a 1944 mfg date?

I know nothing about these.

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Your Mosin was made at the Izhevsk factory.

Your mauser was a K98 that was refurbished by the Yugoslavia after WWII. Preduzece 44 is the factory where the work was done. Some had the barrels and stocks replaced during the refurb. Your's appears to have a Yugo post war stock.

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Mitchell's Mausers are widely despised by Mauser collectors. They are reputed to take Russian Capture (RC) Mausers and grinding off the numbers and re-stamping them to make the parts all match. The font they use is different from original which a collector can spot right away. Then they make them pretty. I am not a Mauser collector, but gunboards forums has covered the Mitchell's subject thoroughly.
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If you look up the term "hump job" you see a picture of Don Mitchell next to the definition.
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Preduzece 44 is the factory where the work was done. Some had the barrels and stocks replaced during the refurb. Your's appears to have a Yugo post war stock.
Indeed. “Preduzece 44” actually denotes the same former government arsenal, then state owned Yugoslavian rifle factory, and now Serbian enterprise that produces and sells Mauser rifles and actions all over the world under the Zastava name.

The scrubbed and refurbished German 98’s may still have Waffenamt marks on less-visible locations.
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About all I can add about the Mauser is, I hope it's a good shooter.
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Old milsurps are some of the coolest guns out there for sure.
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Indeed. “Preduzece 44” actually denotes the same former government arsenal, then state owned Yugoslavian rifle factory, and now Serbian enterprise that produces and sells Mauser rifles and actions all over the world under the Zastava name.

The scrubbed and refurbished German 98’s may still have Waffenamt marks on less-visible locations.
TRZ.1, TRZ.5 and Radionica 124 are the shop markings you need to look out for on Yugo capture k98s. To this day nobody knows where some of these shops were or what the markings mean.

I got my Rad 124 from a very poorly photographed auction with poor descriptions thinking it was a Russian capture. I was told there are fewer than 10 known in the US. That's me, the blind squirrel.
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Looks like 1943 on the Mosin....not sure of the factory??

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A 1943 Izhevsk, just about the most common Mosin 91/30 there is. The finish on yours is way better than mine. My example has machining marks such that you can almost use the barrel shank as a nail file.

27 MILLION is the generally accepted number of Mosins that were produced in various forms from 1892 through to the Albanian and Chinese production in the early 60s.
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The Mosin has an unusual extra stock reinforcement in the wrist area. No doubt done during one of the Soviet refurb programs. What year and factory are shown on the barrel shank?

That Mauser stock is odd. There's no bolt disassembly washer but it does have a WWII German style sling slot. Maybe that's a Mitchell's Mausers thing, unless the came off another Mauser like a WWI 98AZ.
The color of the stock doesn’t look right on the Mauser.
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