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Anyone have one? What caliber, finish, and your opinion please
Iím thinking the stainless in .44 mag. Only reason for the stainless is hear many have sharp edges and I could smooth them out without harming the finish like a blued gun.
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Have a .45 Colt octagon barrel blued version. Only flaw is a silly safety lever on the breach. There are blanking plugs available. Stock is very plain, but the important bits are Winchester 92. Having one in .45 Colt is not very "authentic" but the rifle is plenty stout for any pistol cartridge that will cycle through the action. There is one other non-authentic part, a red plastic cartridge follower, a combination safety and cost concession, but easily replaced with a metal authentic version.
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I love my 5 year old stainless Rossi 92 in .357. It has sharp edges around the loading gate, but they are no problem. The only issue was loading difficulty that was cured by modifying the gate spring profile and shortening the mag tube spring.
The newest 92s are rollmarked CDC and seem to be fine, but some have seen sketchy machining of the locking lug channels.
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I have the 44 mag in stainless and I love it. It's a lot of gun for $500. Feeds my 44 special Skeeter loads without a problem
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I have had one of the 20" engraved Saddle Ring Rifles chambered in 357 Magnum for many years now. This is my oldest, over 20 years now


I have another 20" rifle chambered in 45 Long Colt

I have a 16" Carbine chambered in 357 Magnum

I also have three of the Ranch Hands. One in 22LR, one in 357 Magnum and one in 45 Long Colt

All of mine are blue steel

I like all of them. All have performed well over the years

On top of that, they are a great value as well
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I have a stainless .357 it is accurate and fun to shoot.
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I have a blue 38/357 24" octagon barrel. Yep, the cutout in the receiver for the loading gate is sharp-edged. Been meaning to break the edges, but I'm still procrastinating. I put a Marbles tang sight and Lyman 17A front sight on it. The long sight radius and sights make it an accurate shooter. Mine is well-fitted metal wise, but the stock is unimpressive. It's some sort of mystery wood. It looks like somebody just waved a can of finish in it's direction. The forearm is wider on one side than the other. It's not a looker, but it is a shooter. That's what I bought it for anyhow.
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All of mine are pre safety.


I have three 20 inch saddle ring carbines. An engraved blue 44 Magnum, which, as was said above, eats my 44 special loads like they were jelly beans. A blue and a stainless in 44/40 (really like that 44 WCF cartridge). I used to have a 357, but my love for my daughter overcame my good sense, and I gave it to her.



My last one is a blue 16 inch in 45 Colt, with a big John Wayne loop. It looks cool as all get-out, but every time I shoot it I wish I had a regular loop on it.
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Have had a 16" barrel blued one, has the Puma head on the receiver, since the early 90's.
Only compliant is the short stock, for me!
Have a thick recoil pad for a 10/22, that will require some work to fit to remedy this.
Saw one on post from someone here, so a future project.
Been very happy with mine!
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I have a blue 357 and a blue 44 mag. Both in 20" length with the saddle rings. The saddle rings are great for using with a single point sling BTW.

Mine are so old one of them even has the Puma medallion on the receiver, so unless you're looking at vintage specimens, the quality functionality and so forth of mine won't mean a whole lot to you.

But FWIW, after a little work "slicking them up" they work great.

The stevesgunz website can help you with anything you need, from fluff & buff, to replacing the cross-bolt, to complete customization. He is the man for Rossi 92 lever guns.
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Have had a 16" barrel blued one, has the Puma head on the receiver, since the early 90's.
Only compliant is the short stock, for me!
Have a thick recoil pad for a 10/22, that will require some work to fit to remedy this.
Saw one on post from someone here, so a future project.
Been very happy with mine!
That may have been me. I have a 10/22 recoil pad from eBay on both of mine - as much for length of pull as to absorb recoil. I haven't felt the need to shape or trim them to fit - though I may at some point.
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I found this .45 Colt Trapper in a local pawn shop a few weeks ago for less than $400. I ordered the bolt peep from Steve's Gunz to replace the safety. Haven't shot it much yet but so far I like it.
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I have 2 older Rossi 1892's... not puma medallion old... but pre safety
one is a carbine blue 357... great shooter... blah wood... son loves it.
other one is a rifle blue 45 colt half round half octagon with pretty wood...
shoots great... the half round one is fairly unique and I have never seen another one in the wild...
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I had a pre safety half octagon, half round rifle (don't remember the barrel length) in .45 Colt. I had no trouble holding to 1 1/2" groups with the factory iron sights at 75 yards from a rest. I wish I still had it; but someone offered me absolutely crazy money for it, and I let it go.
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Here's mine...a 16-inch barrel Trapper in .45 Colt. It's stainless, but I had Steve's Gunz bead blast it for me.
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Some work flawlessly - others are troublesome! Overall they have improved over the years - but IMHO I'd take a Winchester or Marlin any day over a Rossi. Of course that's why the price on Rossi's are so much less.
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Have enjoyed my Rossi 92 .357 16". Fun plinker and have hunted with it a bit.

Quarantine project was to ditch the factory buckhorn sight and install one of the Steve's Gunz rear peep that replaces the chintzy safety. (Safeties have NO place on a levergun IMHO)
Front got replaced by a green hi-viz.

Had already installed sling swivels, but need a better sling than the black nylon cheapy it wears now.

One day I'll get around to refinishing the wood, as I'm not sure you could source a plainer junglewood stock. Many fence posts have nicer wood.

All in all, I like the little gun - it'll be in the woods this Fall with me.
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I own a Rossi/Taurus M92 stainless .44 mag I bought new in like 2008.

The only issues I had with it was there was not enough adjustment to get the rear sight down for 50 yard shooting. I cut the top down on the rear sight and re-cut the notch and still had to thin the elevation slider down to get the elevation low enough to hit the targets.
I did remove the bolt safety and made an aluminum plug to fill the hole. No loading or feed issues at all

A few years ago I picked up an older Rossi M92 blue steel in .44-40 caliber. Now this carbine had feed issues....as in it would feed...but you had to really crank hard on the lever. Had some timing issues with the lifter plus some rough work on the ejector. I smoothed up the front of the ejector which helped some...but still had to stone about .004" off the bottom surface of the lifter to delay the cartridge lift enough to where it would feed smoothly.

Both Rossi carbines shoot very accurate. A side note on the .44-40 carbine....Out of three .44-40 long guns(two old 1892 Winchesters and the Rossi)...the Rossi actually has a .427"/.428" bore diameter like published specs for .44-40 guns. The old Winchesters are both in the .430"/.431" bore diameter.
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I have two 357's a 16" and a 20". They have their quirks but all in all are likeable. I have the Steve's Gunz disc and found it usefull. The 20" I bought had problems with the feed gate sticking and not allowing cartridges to feed. I had to remove it and take a dremel tool to the rear of it where it was oversized and sticking on a lifter.
My old eyes hate the buckhorn sights so one wears a scout scope and one has a receiver sight.
I sold a 44 mag I had loaded for elk in the timber. It was accurate but bruised you no mater where you put the curved butt plate. I would want a slip on or lace up recoil pad if I shot anything but soft cowboy loads in one.
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Get a large loop lever and you can be "The Rifleman". Just remember-the number of shots in the opening credits were meant to synchronize with the theme music.
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I have a 92 carbine in .45LC. It goes well with my Model 25 4'' in the same caliber. I do not have any super type ammo so what I have I can shoot in either gun.
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I have a blue 38/357 24" octagon barrel. Yep, the cutout in the receiver for the loading gate is sharp-edged. Been meaning to break the edges, but I'm still procrastinating. I put a Marbles tang sight and Lyman 17A front sight on it. The long sight radius and sights make it an accurate shooter. Mine is well-fitted metal wise, but the stock is unimpressive. It's some sort of mystery wood. It looks like somebody just waved a can of finish in it's direction. The forearm is wider on one side than the other. It's not a looker, but it is a shooter. That's what I bought it for anyhow.
I have the same rifle with the faux case colored receiver and concur 100% with Krogen. Only the rather dull mystery wood stock is annoying to me. Otherwise, it is a very accurate rifle and fit and finish is very good. The loading gate is not a biggie.It smooths out over time. Mine is most accurate with 125 grain .357 ammo. If you're going to shoot with iron sights get the longer barrel version. It really helps to have a longer sight radius.
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I bought a Rossi stainless Puma used at the LGS a couple years ago. I believe I paid about $400 for it, maybe $450.

I haven't done a thing to it but shoot it and clean it. It feeds most all .38 or .357 I've tried. Nary a misfire, will sometimes even feed .38 wadcutters!

One day I took it down completely and found out why it is so smooth and has such a nice trigger.

A previous owner had modified or replaced the springs, for Cowboy Action Shooting matches I bet.

So I am the beneficiary of their work. It's a joy to shoot - I count it as one of my luckiest finds among used guns!
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In my humble opinion.... this spring kit will make your Rossi a treasured joy to shoot. If I recall correctly, I used all the springs except the trigger spring (I didn't want to lighten mine since it isn't supposed to be a target rifle). This kit comes with explicit directions and I think I may have used Steve's Gunz CD to help me thru the disassembly/assembly process. This kit is GREAT and for $30..... you will thank me: Spring Kits | Palo Verde Gunworks
p.s. he has spring kits for Marlins too. The company is named Palo Verde.
MINE is a blue, 45 colt, pre-lock with metal magazine follower... couldn't ask for more.... yes, I refinished the stock because I beat it up a few times; it's very nice now. Chutes good... !!!

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I have a EMF 1892 saddle ring carbine in .38/357 with 20 inch barrel. EMF had Rossi make their 1892's to a nicer fit & finish than the standard Rossi product, and it cost a little more.

I've been very pleased with mine, although I did install the safety delete plug from Steve's Gunz. When loaded with .38's it's like shooting a .22LR on steroids, very little recoil and fun to shoot. But when stoked with 158 grain .357's it feels like a real rifle and will do pretty much inside of a hundred yards anything that a .30-30 can do.

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I just picked mine up this week. It has been on one range trip. So far, so good. I got the 20" blued version. I tried 105, 124, and 170 grain cast bullets loaded with Unique. It likes the 170's best. I'm loading some more 124's to try today.
It did well with a squib load consisting of a 105 grain SWC over 1.5 grains of Bullseye.
Full wadcutters don't feed well. They eject like empties instead of feeding into the chamber!
-Someone said the stock is short. I'm 5'8" and it's just right for me.
-Seems buckhorn sights are ideal for shooting deer and bad guys. I'm more of a pop can shooter. I'm going to change or modify the sights on mine.
Overall I like it. I'd prefer stainless but the store only had blue. I love the fact that it can shoot and cycle just about anything I put in it.
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Maybe I’ll reconsider the caliber. I didn’t think a .44 mag. would have much recoil. Right now I’m just casting about on what to buy next. I missed out on the 1066 that I posted about and now I’ve got some money burning a hole in my pocket.
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Maybe Iíll reconsider the caliber. I didnít think a .44 mag. would have much recoil. Right now Iím just casting about on what to buy next. I missed out on the 1066 that I posted about and now Iíve got some money burning a hole in my pocket.
I was loading 280 gr bullets at 1750 fps for elk, but it was a bruiser with 250
s at 1600 too. The pad I put on made it very tolerable but the buttplate was not designed to be friendly to my frame.
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With a 44 or a 45 a butt pad WILL be your friend and you get a wee bit more LOP. Plus + plus.
To install a butt pad requires a wood refinish And I found tolerable wood under that strange reddish paint stuff they use. Wood die worked better on the mystery hardwood than wood stain. Fancy wood on a field gun, meh. Your going to cry when you scratch it. A fencepost stock looks better with a little wear and tear.
All in all the butt pad made it a better , more civilized gun.




I have found the Rossi leverguns to be much like the Ruger Single Actions in that they will probably take some tweeking to get them "right". Some have a problem with that and want it "right" right out of the box . I don't mind cuz I'm gonna personalize them anyway and all new guns can use a little TLC.

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Some work flawlessly - others are troublesome! Overall they have improved over the years - but IMHO I'd take a Winchester or Marlin any day over a Rossi. Of course that's why the price on Rossi's are so much less.
I've had problems with Marlins, including a JM 30-30.
And found the hard way that being a LGS gunsmith does not neccessarily make them sufficiently experienced to repair lever actions.
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Some of the Rossi’s were good, some not so good. I am lucky to have one of the good ones, blued 357 with bolt safety (now removed). A good friend bought it for Cowboy Action and had me slick it up for him. He shot it for a few years then bought a 73 with a short throw kit. I bought the Rossi and mounted an old Lyman peep on It for lever action silhouette. Had to D&T the receiver to mount the peep, sure would be nice if Rossi did that at the factory. I shoot 100% lead bullets and have never had a leading problem.
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I have had two. My first was a Rossi M92 in .44-40. Lovely rifle, shot well, looked fine, etc. I acquired a Navy Arms Rossi M92 in .45 Colt because I was shooting Ruger Vaqueros in .45 Colt in cowboy action games and I got tired of dealing with two calibers. Subsequently, I acquired two Vaqueros in .44-40 but I sold all three to a friend who just wanted .44-40s really badly and I preferred the .45 Colt guns.

The Navy Arms version is stunning. Octagon barrel, nice wood, and very accurate. I had more than a few clean matches using that rifle and those Vaqueros.

I do believe that Rossi made their M92s in .45 Colt because of the cowboy action shooting game. There was probably never a demand for them before then. I could be wrong but it always seem sensible for that to be the reason.

As noted above, I only shot lead bullets, they were low velocity, and the gun was great. I admit I put a peep sight on it because they work better for my eyes.

I had a Winchester Model 94 Angle Eject in .44 Magnum and I was actually a little surprised at the recoil. I never thought that either of my Rossis had recoil worth mentioning.
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Maybe Iíll reconsider the caliber. I didnít think a .44 mag. would have much recoil. Right now Iím just casting about on what to buy next. I missed out on the 1066 that I posted about and now Iíve got some money burning a hole in my pocket.
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I have a blue 45 Colt I bought used around 35 years ago. Action is now smooth as silk! IT shoots both 45 Colt and 45 Scofield cartridges!

I have a pre-lock stainless 357 I bought used around 20 years ago. It too is smooth as silk, after I did a tune-up on it!

I have had several other Rossi 92's, but these two are staying with me for a while yet! Many Rossi's have the locking lugs warped when manufactured, I stone down the high side at the ends of the "C" shape, just a few 1/1000ths & lighten the lever latch spring to 3 coils. That is usually all it takes. Once and awhile I stone all the flat surfaces on the bolt, including the lug channels. If blue, don't go any further than taking off the high speckles.

I have never had to mess with trigger sear engagement and only once taken a coil out of the hammer spring. Be sure to keep the loading gate screw tight! I have had to loosen them a full turn to get properly loading, then Loctite them in place for proper tension!

If you shoot dirty loads (many cowboy action loads are filthy!) be sure to clean the inside of the magazine tube at least once a year or the follower binds up! You can sometimes feel the follower smack into the front bullet just before you fire the next round.

All model 92's were made to be used hard! DON'T baby the lever operation, use full force. It will work better.

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I have 9 Rossi 92s at last count. They are my favorite rifle. They’re a decent value but I wouldn’t expect to pull one out of the box and have it shoot thousands of rounds flawlessly. The puma 44 mag I started with has had its issues over the years requiring disassembly and repair a few times. Most other issues I’ve had were getting the sights to shoot point of aim. I had the same issue with a marlin 1895 for quite a bit more money.

The thing that lead me to acquire so many though was the scarcity for a little while. You don’t just walk into any gun store and they’re all stocked up with every caliber and barrel length. You’d be lucky if a store had one. Being that they shoot all my favorite calibers faster and more accurately it seemed like a no brainer.
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I have a 20" Blue .357 and it was pretty stiff but I worked the action about 200 times while watching TV and shooting several hundred rounds has smoothed it up nicely. It has a great trigger and is a lot of fun but the stock looked like it had no sealer on it so I rubbed on a couple coats of Tru Oil and it looks excellent now.
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I am really liking mine. (I already posted above, #26.) Had it out for range trip #2. I upped the powder charge in the 124 grain loads and that was a big improvement. The bullet shot a lot flatter and it seemed more accurate. I was able to consistently ring the 200 yard gong. I'm going to increase the charge another 1/2 grain and see how they do.
My light load of 1.5 grains of Bullseye under a 105 grain SWC shot cloverleafs at 50 feet.

I have a question; Does it hurt the extractor to single load this firearm? I was loading some wadcutters into the chamber and it didn't seem to take any extra force to close the bolt, but I'm wondering if it hurts the extractor claw for it to ride over the cartridge rim.
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I have a question; Does it hurt the extractor to single load this firearm? I was loading some wadcutters into the chamber and it didn't seem to take any extra force to close the bolt, but I'm wondering if it hurts the extractor claw for it to ride over the cartridge rim.
The extractor is on the top of the bolt. it should have clearance to pop over the rim on a chambered round. If not, you'll need to disassemble the bolt and dress off any burrs on the extractor and spring surfaces.

My 45 Colt 92's have all worked fine with 45 S&W Schofield rounds too, but Schofield has a larger rim. That little bit just might be "the straw that could break the camel's back."

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I do believe that Rossi made their M92s in .45 Colt because of the cowboy action shooting game. There was probably never a demand for them before then. I could be wrong but it always seem sensible for that to be the reason.
I don't think so, one of my 92's in 45 Colt is older than the SASS organization!

As a 1911, revolver, and carbine shooter, and a 45 ACP & AR, 45 Colt and 45 S&W shooter, it is nice to be able to share primers, powder, and projectiles (and some loading dies too!) WLP primers, WW231 Powder, and a 200 gr RNFP will work fine in any handgun cartridge that starts with 45! (I currently have 4 carbines; 2 92's, Marlin 1894 CB, and Marlin Camp 45. And 17 handguns: 2 SAA clones, 4 Vaqueros, 1917, 625, 3 Sigs, and a big pile of 1911's). On any given outing I shoot a lot of 45 Something (I have 4 45-70's too).

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I have an older blued one, in .45 Colt. It was a bit rough, but after sending it to Steve's Gunz (Steve's Gunz | "The Rossi 92 Specialist") it is slicker than snot.

The only thing I don't like about it is the wood. It is almost black in color, with no visible grain. Kind of lackluster, some South American hardwood without character.
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The older Rossi’s seemed to have a darker wood or finish. Both my 454s have this dark wood. All the rest are newer lighter versions
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I have a 92 in .357/.38. It’s shoots fine and will cycle semi wad cutters. It’s an older model with out the safety and has dark wood.
My only complaint is the sights. The front is just a blade made on the barrel band. I believe they call them a notch and post.? I’ve seen replacement sights with dovetail but not the whole band.
Just something to keep in mind if looking at a used Rossi.
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I had a 16" carbine in .357 for a couple years. I replaced a couple parts, massaged the action, adjusted some springs and finished the mystery wood with 6 coats of Tru-oil. Besides an initial too stiff a loading gate and ejecting casings into the next zipcode, it was a really nice rifle. Got mine brand spanking new for $401 so putting a little elbow grease into it was fine. I ended up selling it to fund a Henry, but would not balk at another.

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Gander Mountain had a used SS in either .44 or .45 (can’t recall) in their used rack a few years back for $299. The wood was so darn unappealing I never really considered it.
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Gander Mountain had a used SS in either .44 or .45 (canít recall) in their used rack a few years back for $299. The wood was so darn unappealing I never really considered it.
Bummer. For that price a little refinishing would have been worthwhile.
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I have had three of the Rossi '92's over more than 25 years. Not as many as Ivan but still.....

The first was an early to mid 1990's, blue, 20" in 44/40, saddle ring carbine. One of the ones with the embossed and brass highlighted Puma heads on the left receiver.

It was a smoot actioned rifle, accurate and light to handle. Unfortunatley it was stolen in August 2017.

My next was a replacement, also 20" in 44/40, but this was second hand and stainless. I knew it had been a pig hunters gun when I bought it. What I didn't know was that the hunter had taken a fall with it across his back at some time.

When I tried to sight it in it would barely hit the right edge of the target at 50 meters. The barrel and mag tube were bent. A retired engineer friend looked at it. He had the press to straighten it out but warned me that stainless steel barrels, once bent, could retain "memory" and return to their bent state after straightening. He ran it though his press four times over two weeks, and managed to straingten the barrel.

I don't know if it was because it had been abused or because it was stainless, but the action was never as smooth as the blue one had been and accuracy, while okay, was not making me happy.

I sold it for what it had cost me to another pig shooter
My last Rossi '92 I bought today

It is another blue one, new, but with a 24" heavy octagonal barrel and it is in .45 Colt. Better yet the LGS I bought it from threw in a box of 50 cartidges too. No charge.

Range trip with several new rifles coming up soon.
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