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Old 07-11-2020, 03:55 PM
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Saw this the other day. Looks like they will keep the Gen3 for California sales and update to the Gen5.

Glock Has Reached the End of the Line on Gen 4 9mm, .40S&W

I have a Gen3 19 that I gave to my son when he got out of the USMC. He loves it and that thing has never failed even with some crappy steel case stuff. It's his EDC.

I guess the company just wants to focus on two versions instead of three.
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Old 07-11-2020, 04:51 PM
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Makes good economic sense.
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Old 07-11-2020, 05:07 PM
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Guys I know that are serious Glock-guys SWEAR that the Gen 3 is and remains the best ever version.

Me .... I don't know enough about them to know the difference.
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Interesting. Makes sense.

I used to have a Gen3 Glock 23. It was a good gun. A bit snappy, but not uncontrollable. Got slide bite at least once per range trip.

I've shot a Gen4 and Gen5 Glock 19 side-by-side a couple years ago at a rental range. Aside from the lack of finger grooves and the annoying half-moon cut on the Gen5 front strap, I couldn't really tell the difference. For me, I never even noticed the finger grooves on the 19/23 as they fit my hands perfectly, better than any other finger-grooved gun/grip I've tried.

I am curious about one thing. If the Gen3 Glocks are going to be produced for the CA market, will they be available elsewhere, or are they going to scale back production and limit distribution to CA? I would prefer the Gen3 to the Gen5 primarily because with the Gen3 I could still use the NY1/"-" connector trigger set-up I like. That option isn't available with the Gen5 guns, as far as I know. Not that I'm planning on getting one anytime soon, but I think at some point I'd like to add a Glock 19 to my collection.
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I`ve had gen 3 and 4. Couldnt tell a difference
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So... Does that mean they'll finally be introducing Gen 5 variations of all of the Gen 4 Models which lack Gen 5 Variants?
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So... Does that mean they'll finally be introducing Gen 5 variations of all of the Gen 4 Models which lack Gen 5 Variants?
Based on what I read in the linked article, it seems that Glock will be discontinuing some of their Gen4 models, hinting that maybe the Gen4 10mm and .45ACP pistols would be going away. I may have read it wrong, though. I think the article only mentioned Gen5 .40S&W pistols coming out, in addition to the current Gen5 models.

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I've got 2 Gen 3 Glock 27s & 2 Gen 4 Glock 30s. I don't use the modular grip back straps & even though I'm a leftie I'm fine with the Gen 3 non-reversible Mag release, I use my index finger. I as well think overall Gen 3s are hard to beat. I don't even know what Gen 5 is about LOL.
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This means Gen 4s are now collectible!
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Based on what I read in the linked article, it seems that Glock will be discontinuing some of their Gen4 models, hinting that maybe the Gen4 10mm and .45ACP pistols would be going away. I may have read it wrong, though. I think the article only mentioned Gen5 .40S&W pistols coming out, in addition to the current Gen5 models.
That would be a terrible shame, especially for diehard fans of 10mm Auto, who already have extremely limited options when it comes to 10mm pistols.
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So... Does that mean they'll finally be introducing Gen 5 variations of all of the Gen 4 Models which lack Gen 5 Variants?
Sure would like a gen 5 G23
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I just sold a Gen 4 FDE 19 that I had tricked up. I am a lefty, don't care for finger groves and didn't like the fact that the slide lock/slide release is not available for left hand operation. I have been trying to go to pistols that work well for left handed shooter thus I now have a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 compact that I am working with.
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Sure would like a gen 5 G23
I believe Glock is supposed to be coming out with .40S&W Gen5 guns in October. I'd imagine that would include the 23, but I don't know for sure.
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Old 07-11-2020, 07:31 PM
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I'm glad to hear that, at least. My brother really wants a Glock 32, so it's a shame they're most likely history. Fortunately, a Glock 23 can be converted to a 32 with a drop-in .357 SIG Barrel.
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Old 07-11-2020, 07:52 PM
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Is there a list where one can tell what generation Glock one has ??

(asking for a friend who is a Glock Owner)
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here one video describing the differences.

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I just sold a Gen 4 FDE 19 that I had tricked up. I am a lefty, don't care for finger groves and didn't like the fact that the slide lock/slide release is not available for left hand operation. I have been trying to go to pistols that work well for left handed shooter thus I now have a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 compact that I am working with.
I'm a lefty and just got a 19x.

No finger grooves, ambi slide release.
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I'm glad to hear that, at least. My brother really wants a Glock 32, so it's a shame they're most likely history. Fortunately, a Glock 23 can be converted to a 32 with a drop-in .357 SIG Barrel.
I did that in the mid 90's. One of my best moves. It's a Glock 22 w/BarSto and a tack driver. I just wrote Glock and tack driver in the same sentence. Other than that my Glock collection are Gen 2 and 2.5 G20s and a Gen3 29sf.
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I still only have a gen 1 or 2 G22 and a gen 3 G23, I am pretty sure I don't need another one.
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I just sold a Gen 4 FDE 19 that I had tricked up. I am a lefty, don't care for finger groves and didn't like the fact that the slide lock/slide release is not available for left hand operation. I have been trying to go to pistols that work well for left handed shooter thus I now have a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 compact that I am working with.
Have you looked at a HK VP9. My wife shoots lefty and Iím a righty. Dual slide release and paddle mag release we can both shoot no issues. Very accurate too
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I guess I should visit my local cop shop and grab a spare Glock 32. They had Gen 3 and Gen 4 in stock when I was in a couple of weeks ago. The one I bought last year was a Gen 4, but Iíd be just as happy with a Gen 3. The adjustable back strap isnít a big deal, and I donít know what the other differences are.
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I just sold a Gen 4 FDE 19 that I had tricked up. I am a lefty, don't care for finger groves and didn't like the fact that the slide lock/slide release is not available for left hand operation. I have been trying to go to pistols that work well for left handed shooter thus I now have a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 compact that I am working with.
If you don't mind DA/SA guns, the Beretta PX4 Storm comes standard with an ambidextrous slide release (the Carry versions only have the left-side slide release lever) and the mag release is reversible. The slide-mounted safety/decocker (easily converted to decock-only if that's your preference, and I would recommend that as I don't like the way the safety works) is also ambidextrous. Some people don't like the slide-mounted controls, but I like them and have no issue using them. And there are no finger grooves.
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I guess I should visit my local cop shop and grab a spare Glock 32. They had Gen 3 and Gen 4 in stock when I was in a couple of weeks ago. The one I bought last year was a Gen 4, but Iíd be just as happy with a Gen 3. The adjustable back strap isnít a big deal, and I donít know what the other differences are.
I'm not exactly chomping at the bit over a Gen five myself.
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Interesting. Makes sense.

I used to have a Gen3 Glock 23. It was a good gun. A bit snappy, but not uncontrollable. Got slide bite at least once per range trip.

I've shot a Gen4 and Gen5 Glock 19 side-by-side a couple years ago at a rental range. Aside from the lack of finger grooves and the annoying half-moon cut on the Gen5 front strap, I couldn't really tell the difference. For me, I never even noticed the finger grooves on the 19/23 as they fit my hands perfectly, better than any other finger-grooved gun/grip I've tried.

I am curious about one thing. If the Gen3 Glocks are going to be produced for the CA market, will they be available elsewhere, or are they going to scale back production and limit distribution to CA? I would prefer the Gen3 to the Gen5 primarily because with the Gen3 I could still use the NY1/"-" connector trigger set-up I like. That option isn't available with the Gen5 guns, as far as I know. Not that I'm planning on getting one anytime soon, but I think at some point I'd like to add a Glock 19 to my collection.
I've carried a Gen 3 Glock 23 daily for over 20 years, and usually shoot it at least a couple of times a week. After 10's of thousands of rounds I have never experienced slide bite on any Glock. Not once.

As a certified LEO range officer I regularly train and coach new officers, and our department issues exclusively the G22 and G23, but I also work with other departments that issue the G19 and G17. The only time I've seen someone encounter slide bite, which in my observations have been rare, is when they're holding it wrong.
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I would prefer the Gen3 to the Gen5 primarily because with the Gen3 I could still use the NY1/"-" connector trigger set-up I like. That option isn't available with the Gen5 guns, as far as I know. Not that I'm planning on getting one anytime soon, but I think at some point I'd like to add a Glock 19 to my collection.
You can get an NY1 trigger/- connector for a Gen 5. Different parts than the ones for a Gen 3/4.

IMO, Gen 3 works best with the NY1/- combo. Gen 4 is OK with NY1/-. Gen 5, not so great with NY1/-.

Used, I'd buy a Gen 3. With aftermarket parts, you can make a Gen 3 into any kind of rocket ship you want. New, I think I'd skip the Glock and get a Shadow Systems MR920 Glock'ish clone.
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Gen4 G20 is one of the best duty pistols ever made. Hope they'll still make em.
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I've carried a Gen 3 Glock 23 daily for over 20 years, and usually shoot it at least a couple of times a week. After 10's of thousands of rounds I have never experienced slide bite on any Glock. Not once.

As a certified LEO range officer I regularly train and coach new officers, and our department issues exclusively the G22 and G23, but I also work with other departments that issue the G19 and G17. The only time I've seen someone encounter slide bite, which in my observations have been rare, is when they're holding it wrong.
I gripped the gun properly. Unless every instructor in every training course I've taken was wrong.
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Thanks for the info. I was not aware of that.
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I have/had several Glocks and find my G27.5 is markedly more accurate than any of my other Glocks. I credit this to the new barrels. Could care less about the ambi slide release and prefer the earlier finish.
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Love the finger grooves in my Gen 4 17.
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One thing I learned when I helped out a bit on the range with the current reserve academy is that Gen 5s for some reason do not like most dummy rounds. I mean REALLY did not like. It made some of the manipulation training more difficult.

I have a pair of modified Gen 2 Glock 17s. They do everything I want, generally. Based on what I have learned in the last few years, but for all of the money I have invested in Glocks and Glock compatible gear, I have concluded that the M&P (at least in the 2.0) is a better platform overall. I might have to get a Glock 20, as I have gear for the 21 I was issued, and the 20 is simply a good woods gun.
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I guess I must be out of date with my Gen 2s.
Now my lack of finger grooves is "in" again - now if they drop the rail from the dustcover, I'll be all set.
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The Glock rep who frequents my employerís shooting range frequently said that itís the Gen 4 9mmís and .40ís are going the way if the dodo for now. The G4ís in 9 & 40 are redundant with the G5ís. The Gen3ís will continue because they Ďpredateí many of the nutty state laws that effectively ban the G4ís. After Glock catches up with Gen 5 production, they may introduce the other big calibers as well.

I was able to shoot a prototype G22 G5 he had and I like it! A month later I now have a Gen5 G22 for agency T&E for 90 days. No it does not have the superfluous safety like my Brazilian counterparts do. It is however identical to the Brazilian model though aside from the manual safety.

My boss said as soon as an MOS version is available for agency purchase, heíll get one so I can run optics on it. My dept. is starting to issue MOS guns to recruits & inservice.

Anyway, the G22 G5 is essentially a Glock 37 with the Gen 5 upgrades chambered in .40 cal. Thatís the best & simplest description I can give. The beefier slide is something Glock should have done 30 yrs ago for the .40. It is less snappy than its predecessors & will be more durable. I think itís well done!

Yes, a 23 & 27 will likely be following soon per Glock.

Also, this new addition to the Gen 5 line indicates that despite all the internet commandos predictions; the .40 is by no means dead in LE or in the private world. A lot of large agencies still use it primarily or authorize it for use.

I still carry .40ís and will continue to do so until I retire.
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One thing I learned when I helped out a bit on the range with the current reserve academy is that Gen 5s for some reason do not like most dummy rounds. I mean REALLY did not like. It made some of the manipulation training more difficult.

I have a pair of modified Gen 2 Glock 17s. They do everything I want, generally. Based on what I have learned in the last few years, but for all of the money I have invested in Glocks and Glock compatible gear, I have concluded that the M&P (at least in the 2.0) is a better platform overall. I might have to get a Glock 20, as I have gear for the 21 I was issued, and the 20 is simply a good woods gun.
Indeed. The G5 9mm Glocks have some small mods to the breachface that you canít really see. But, it makes the extraction/ejection if dummies hard. The recruits that have G5ís get really good at yanking the slide open.

I need to see if the G22 G5 is stubborn with dummies. Ejecting a live round requires a lot more power to manipulate than the 3/4 gens.
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Apparently Glock has ran out of changes they can make so they are starting over by reintroducing the G17 and calling it P80.

Retro guns are cool I guess.
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Just waiting for the day that Glock puts out a carbine, If it's as utilitarian and reliable as their pistols they will sell like pancakes. Whereas the Gen 3 19 had been my fave of the half dozen Glock's I've owned, was fairly surprised at the accuracy of the gen5 with it's featured Marksman barrel, the 19 I shot was a laser.
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There are a few Gen 3's that are still being produced. If it sells they will make it.

I will still buy my 2 Blue label guns per year and throw them in the safe. When times go crazy and they are bringing $200 to $300 over retail I will let them go.
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I have had at least one Glock in my meager firearm collection since '85. I currently have 2 19's, a G3 and a G5. Also have a G3 17. I like the 19 G5 except for the cut out on the bottom grip front like a G2. G3's are my favorite and I'm kicking myself for selling a G3 26 to a friend a couple months ago. I swear the G3 slide finish is better than the G4 or G5's.
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I've owned a number of Glocks, but IMO the Gen 3s became obsolete when the Gen 4s came out. I never understood the hardcore loyalty of Gen 3 lovers. There is nothing I can see the 3s doing better than the 4s. I can also see no real improvement on the Gen 5s unless you are a lefty. Maybe they can get back to making models in all the calibers instead of just pumping out 6 new "minor cosmetic differences" 9mm models a year and ignoring all the other calibers. As far as the finish, Gen 3s might have had a better finish back when they were the current Gen, but current production finish is no different between Gen 3 and 4s, Austrian or USA produced...
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This is JMO, but it doesn't really seem to matter what "generation" a Glock pistol is. They are a utility tool and the changes from one generation to the next are minimal and mostly cosmetic IMO. I really can't see the need to keep adding new generations.....kinda like having a Gen-1,2,3,4,5 etc. hammer.

Somehow I've come to have five Glocks ( two Gen-3 23's and three Gen-4's ... a 19, a 26, & a 27). And I just counted....I have four hammers, but I don't know what generation any of them are.

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I want a G22.5. I have to wait one more month.
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Does this mean that people will finally love Gen 4s, and complain that they arenít being made anymore...
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I have mostly gen2 Glocks but also have a G40 MOS gen4 and a G19 MOS gen5. I wish the G40 was a gen5. I like the G19 gen5 just fine. I like it a lot, as does the wife. I don't get the complaint about the fingernail cut on the grip. I never notice it's there. They all work great including my gen2's. I'd kinda like a gen5 G20 MOS. I'd also like to shoot a G29 to see if I want one. I do like the G40 a lot even though a gen4 I bought a .40 barrel for it so I could shoot cheaper. It functions great with all brands of .40 I've tried and drops the brass about a foot to my right. Obviously almost too much spring but 100% function. Glocks obviously won't qualify as barbecue guns but oh well!
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