Nah,,, that can't be in there ...........

4WHLDRFTN · #1 08-05-2020, 02:58 PM

another closet queen...Enfield .22 trainer complete with cleaning tools

nedlate · #2 08-05-2020, 03:23 PM

Well come on, pull it out so we can see!

Ed

4WHLDRFTN · #3 08-05-2020, 03:29 PM

Oooops,,that pic didn’t post

4WHLDRFTN · #4 08-05-2020, 03:37 PM

whats wit the down under pics (posting upside down) ??

4WHLDRFTN · #5 08-05-2020, 03:39 PM

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LVSteve · #6 08-05-2020, 06:00 PM

Did the wood on that rifle come from another gun. ZF on the butt means "zero function", or at least that's the polite version of what British armourers said.

I bought a 1944 Fazakerley No.4 Mk1 that had ZF stamped in the buttstock. Missed it in the online pictures. It was likely one that missed or had minimal induction hardening. Not uncommon in the WWII rush to produce weapons. The bore was mint, but the headspace was best measured using a thick book.

bmcgilvray · #7 08-05-2020, 06:24 PM

Love seeing that Enfield .22. Fighting down the envy. Would shoot the hooey out of it.

4WHLDRFTN · #8 08-05-2020, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LVSteve

Did the wood on that rifle come from another gun. ZF on the butt means "zero function", or at least that's the polite version of what British armourers said.

I bought a 1944 Fazakerley No.4 Mk1 that had ZF stamped in the buttstock. Missed it in the online pictures. It was likely one that missed or had minimal induction hardening. Not uncommon in the WWII rush to produce weapons. The bore was mint, but the headspace was best measured using a thick book.

They modified the .303 and used whatever

4WHLDRFTN · #9 08-05-2020, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bmcgilvray

Love seeing that Enfield .22. Fighting down the envy. Would shoot the hooey out of it.

I tried it, it’s finicky ... but does shoot well. trigger is like pulling a house down ... oh its not a 52

Ivan the Butcher · #10 08-05-2020, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 4WHLDRFTN

trigger is like pulling a house down

I have a South American 7x57 Chomplain, hammerless and no mechanical safety, except for the 28 pound trigger! With some pre WWI Remington 175 round nose I shot a ground hog right in the ear. He had nothing on his mind!

I have some (2) of the Romanian M-1965 training rifles, the triggers are not overly heavy, but are very inconsistent from shot to shot! They shoot pretty well with any standard velocity 22 ammo.

Ivan

Walter Rego · #11 08-05-2020, 08:17 PM

I had one of those No. 2 Mk. IV's some years ago. It was a lot of fun to pull it out at the range and have it go <pop> instead of BANG. One time a guy told me not to shoot it again as my ammo was squibs and I might blow it up on the next shot. He thought I was shooting surplus .303 until I showed him what it was. Mine had the Parker Rifled barrel sleeve if I recall.

4WHLDRFTN · #12 08-05-2020, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter Rego

I had one of those No. 2 Mk. IV's some years ago. It was a lot of fun to pull it out at the range and have it go <pop> instead of BANG. One time a guy told me not to shoot it again as my ammo was squibs and I might blow it up on the next shot. He thought I was shooting surplus .303 until I showed him what it was. Mine had the Parker Rifled barrel sleeve if I recall.

was it restamped .22lr w /.303 on it ?

4WHLDRFTN · #13 08-05-2020, 09:11 PM

i'll take it down some day and check the bbl stampings .. the rest of it is correct

Scharfschuetzer · #14 08-05-2020, 09:22 PM

Nice find. It should be a No 2 rifle and they were often made from full power service rifles.

Here is my No 2 as well as a No 7 purpose made .22LR. I have the wood shipping crates for both also. Both of mine are quite accurate and I used them as training rifles for a Boy Scout troop back in the day. Those boys really liked shooting "real army rifles" instead of the run of the mill rim fire rifles.

The photo also includes a Mauser Sport Gewehr (a miniaturized Model 98) and the US Army 1922 M2 .22RF based on the 1903 Springfield action.

4WHLDRFTN · #15 08-05-2020, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scharfschuetzer

Nice find. It should be a No 2 rifle and they were often made from full power service rifles.

Here is my No 2 as well as a No 7 purpose made .22LR. I have the wood shipping crates for both also. Both of mine are quite accurate and I used them as training rifles for a Boy Scout troop back in the day. Those boys really liked shooting "real army rifles" instead of the run of the mill rim fire rifles.

The photo also includes a Mauser Sport Gewehr (a miniaturized Model 98) and the US Army 1922 M2 .22RF based on the 1903 Springfield action.

out of all the trainers, the m1922 and the Reising 65 i like best.
...savage 19's are no joke either. i have one of each model ,, 19, 19nra ( 1st n 2nd mod) 1933, 19 target, 23 sporter

Scharfschuetzer · #16 08-06-2020, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 4WHLDRFTN

out of all the trainers, the m1922 and the Reising 65 i like best.
...savage 19's are no joke either. i have one of each model ,, 19, 19nra ( 1st n 2nd mod) 1933, 19 target, 23 sporter

I've only seen the Reising .22 in passing. I have played with the Reising submachine gun in 45 ACP though.

It's always fun to shoot these trainers at the range as they draw a lot of questions and admiring glances.

They're not too shabby in the field either and surprisingly accurate out to 200 yards.

4WHLDRFTN · #17 08-06-2020, 02:46 AM

Reising 65