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Old 08-07-2020, 09:40 PM
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My new "toy". I've been wanting a Cattaraugus 225Q since I learned of their existence about a month ago. Won this one on eBay, $110 shipped. Razor sharp! In the eBay pics, the sheath looked like it had been dyed black. Not the case. Someone blued the blade. They did a nice job. Next on the purchase list is a Case 337-6-Q.
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Good choice!
One of my long time favs.
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pretty good deal. mine looks pretty rough in comparison, but was carried by my grandfather. Not sure if I should try and correct some of the worst of the damage. Massive scrapes bordering on gouges where it looks like it was rough "ground" with a file. Sheath is just about shot, but repros are available. Leather washers not rotten though.
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Found one here in ATL back in January. Heavily used but still in good usable condition, and SHARP. Yours is very nice.
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Very nice, and a good price as well. Some good deals are found by searching Cattaraugus 2250 on Ebay.
Guess some mistake the Q for a 0.
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I was very happy with the condition of this one when I received it. There is a little bit of pitting on the blade in spots. Given it's age, that is to be expected and does not bother me. I was mostly concerned about the leather handle being dry rotted. That was not the case.
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Any idea the steel used?
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Remember this a WWII issue knife.
It’s most likely 1095 Carbon Steel or Similar.
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I bought mine about 15 or so years ago. Paid $35.00 for it back then. Will try to remember to post a picture of it tomorrow.
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Great pictures. Here is a 225Q (top) and a KA-BAR that belonged to my late FIL:
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The sheath is for the KA-BAR. Alas, no sheath for the 225Q.
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Great pictures. Here is a 225Q (top) and a KA-BAR that belonged to my late FIL:
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The sheath is for the KA-BAR. Alas, no sheath for the 225Q.
Since this is a 225Q thread I will not post another picture.

I too, have a Kabar, two in fact. One I carried in the Corps and a WW II Kabar that WW II/Korea USMC Vet carried back then.
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The Cattaraugus are my favorite combat knife. I have two, one my Dad had that someone took a grinder to, and another one I found in real good shape, sheath and all. Bark River Knives built a tribute knife, called the Quartermaster.
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The Cattaraugus are my favorite combat knife. I have two, one my Dad had that someone took a grinder to, and another one I found in real good shape, sheath and all. Bark River Knives built a tribute knife, called the Quartermaster.
The 225Q was not designed or accepted as a combat knife. It is believed that they were issued to the Quartermaster's personnel to assist in opening boxes and wooden crates. WWII Ė The Cattaraugus 225 Q Commando | The High Road

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After studying these knives for quite some years I still can not come up with documentary evidence that they were purchased by the government for the Quartermaster Corps or any other branch for that matter. I have been told by many that such paperwork exists but it has taken on the mystique of an AUrban Legend@ to me. AThe blades were made extra thick to pry open wooden crates.@ AThe pommels were doubled and checkered to provide a hammering surface for resealing the crates.@ These are just a few of the often repeated comments I have heard concerning these knives. Are they true? I would think that a pry bar or a hammer would be better suited for such activities. I do know that J.B.F. Champlin was the wartime president of Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Mr. Champlin=s son Jack, was in the Army Quartermaster Corps stationed in Europe. Is this a coincidence by any chance? Jack carried a 225Q knife made especially for him according to local newspaper accounts. Could this have been the connection for that mysterious AQ@ stamped on the blades of the Cattaraugus and the Case examples of this knife? The knives were, at the time, known by the factory workers as ACommando@ knives but we have gathered that the moniker was a marketing ploy as they look nothing like the original ACommando@ knives. Again that seems to be aimed at general sales and marketing not a government contract. If anyone has access to any government records showing the actual purchase of 225Q type knives I sure would like to see it. Let=s put this Acommon knowledge@ issue to rest once and for all.
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The 225Q was not designed or accepted as a combat knife. It is believed that they were issued to the Quartermaster's personnel to assist in opening boxes and wooden crates. WWII Ė The Cattaraugus 225 Q Commando | The High Road

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After studying these knives for quite some years I still can not come up with documentary evidence that they were purchased by the government for the Quartermaster Corps or any other branch for that matter. I have been told by many that such paperwork exists but it has taken on the mystique of an AUrban Legend@ to me. AThe blades were made extra thick to pry open wooden crates.@ AThe pommels were doubled and checkered to provide a hammering surface for resealing the crates.@ These are just a few of the often repeated comments I have heard concerning these knives. Are they true? I would think that a pry bar or a hammer would be better suited for such activities. I do know that J.B.F. Champlin was the wartime president of Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Mr. Champlin=s son Jack, was in the Army Quartermaster Corps stationed in Europe. Is this a coincidence by any chance? Jack carried a 225Q knife made especially for him according to local newspaper accounts. Could this have been the connection for that mysterious AQ@ stamped on the blades of the Cattaraugus and the Case examples of this knife? The knives were, at the time, known by the factory workers as ACommando@ knives but we have gathered that the moniker was a marketing ploy as they look nothing like the original ACommando@ knives. Again that seems to be aimed at general sales and marketing not a government contract. If anyone has access to any government records showing the actual purchase of 225Q type knives I sure would like to see it. Let=s put this Acommon knowledge@ issue to rest once and for all.
1.25 million plus 225Qs sold to the US Military, issued all across the forces, not just to the Quartermaster Corps. I have seen photos of GIs carrying them in WW2. Mike named his the Quartermaster becauseit needed a name.....🤣
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Mine was traded for, by my Father, while serving in the South Pacific during WW 2. {HE was Navy and had his own PT boat} I got it from him. They are heavy duty knives. When I was a kid, I used the Knifes butt plate to pound in tent stakes. Old wooden stakes for an old canvas tent.
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1.25 million plus 225Qs sold to the US Military, issued all across the forces, not just to the Quartermaster Corps. I have seen photos of GIs carrying them in WW2. Mike named his the Quartermaster becauseit needed a name.....🤣
I don't think that many Kabars were purchased during WW II. Would like to see copies of the contracts.
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Once Saw a Prototype Kabar.
Belonged to Marine Raider Gordon Warner.
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...was my father's issued knife in WWII when he was in the Navy...

When I was about 12 and needing a knife for the outdoors my mother ordered a Craftsman/Sears small upswept skinner type knife. They were out of stock and when my father found out went upstairs and came down with two knives, one for me and one for my brother. I ended up with the Catteraugus and my brother a Robson also with about a 5.5" blade.

It was the only fixed blade knife I had for about 15 years.

When my mother's father died I inherited a big box of old knives...and what was in it...one of the Craftsmen skinners that I didn't get as a kid...

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... I still can not come up with documentary evidence that they were purchased by the government for the Quartermaster Corps or any other branch for that matter. I have been told by many that such paperwork exists but it has taken on the mystique of an AUrban Legend@ to me. The blades were made extra thick to pry open wooden crates. The pommels were doubled and checkered to provide a hammering surface for resealing the crates. These are just a few of the often repeated comments I have heard concerning these knives. Are they true? I would think that a pry bar or a hammer would be better suited for such activities. ...
Sure, a whole tool truck would be great to have. While you're at it, throw in a couple of trailers full of spare parts, nuts and bolts, and don't forget coffee and donuts!

But that ignores the haphazard and chaotic conditions encountered during warfare. Guys found themselves having to do all sorts of jobs with only the tools they had on them. In such situations, the 225 Q was a godsend.
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Sure, a whole tool truck would be great to have. While you're at it, throw in a couple of trailers full of spare parts, nuts and bolts, and don't forget coffee and donuts!

But that ignores the haphazard and chaotic conditions encountered during warfare. Guys found themselves having to do all sorts of jobs with only the tools they had on them. In such situations, the 225 Q was a godsend.
Lots of hunting knives and utility knives went to war. Knives were highly prized item. So the Marines, soldiers and sailors brought whatever they could find or buy. They were not contract weapons, but they had they. Goes along with all of the handguns that guys carried that came from home. I know the local Sheriff gave some of the confiscated handguns to local guns going off to war. Different times back then...........
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I have a Cattauraugus 225Q that my father brought back from WWII. He was in the signal corps in the Pacific. It sits in my safe. Unfortunately a few of the leather washers are missing, but it does have the sheath. It had belonged to a buddy of his. I was going to get it restored and put it in a shadow box with my Viet Nam era pilot's survival knife, but the cost to restore the 225Q would exceed it's value.
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I've read that there was a severe shortage of knives early in the war. High school boys made knives for the military as a project in shop class.
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Several years ago I bought 3 knives at a yard sale. One happened to be a bayonet for a 1897 Win, which I didn’t know at the time. What caught my eye was a US issue Trench knife. Now I’m not into knives like some guys but I knew guy who would want the Trench Knife real bad. I parlayed it into a Savage 99TD in 300sav. Then found out I had shotgun bayonet which I got $150 out of from same guy. My mistake was the 3rd knife was the Cattaurangus GI issue. The leather handle was in terrible shape as was the sheath. I took butt off to remove leather and ended up putting walnut handle on it and selling for $10. I still have the butt pieces, I didn’t use them with wood handle. I have seen Marbel, Pal, Case and other makes of same pattern that govt bought during WW2. They all had good steel in them.
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Several years ago I boujght 3 knives at a yard sale. One happened to be a bayonet for a 1897 Win, which I didnít know at the time. What caught my eye was a US issue Trench knife. Now Iím not into knives like some guys but I knew guy who would want the Trench Knife real bad. I parlayed it into a Savage 99TD in 300sav. Then found out I had shotgun bayonet which I got $150 out of from same guy. My mistake was the 3rd knife was the Cattaurangus GI issue. The leather handle was in terrible shape as was the sheath. I took butt off to remove leather and ended up putting walnut handle on it and selling for $10. I still have the butt pieces, I didnít use them with wood handle. I have seen Marbel, Pal, Case and other makes of same pattern that govt bought during WW2. They all had good steel in them.
Those butt plates on the originals are kinda complex...
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If anybody needs the butt pieces to repair their knife they can have them for postage. Iím done fooling with that stuff.
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Does anybody know where I can get a sheath for mine?

I would like to carry on my belt when camping. A correct sheath would be nice, but anything that works would be ok.
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I too, have a Kabar, two in fact. One I carried in the Corps and a WW II Kabar that WW II/Korea USMC Vet carried back then.

AJ bring on the pics. We love all vintage hardware!
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I would like to carry on my belt when camping. A correct sheath would be nice, but anything that works would be ok.
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Since you asked, here you go.........

The top one I carried on active duty, it is a Kabar. The bottom one was carried by a WW II/Korean War USMC Vet, it is a Camillus.
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The naval aviator on the right has a 225Q on his life-preserver strap. His name is Loyce Edward Deen, KIA in 1945. A very sad, but moving story.
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Interesting to note that the knife sheath is opposite for the 225Q than it is for hunting knives and for the K bars. Mine is the same

If worn on the right hip or on the left hip, a right handed person using their right hand to unsheathe the knife. The sharpened side of the blade would always be up rather than down on the others.

Doesn't seem like a quartermaster draw.

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I hope it isn't bad form to piggyback on to this thread, but it made me remember an old knife I have. It has a metal sheath.
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It has the "U.S.N." "Mark I" on one side and "RH -35" with an oval in between that says " PAL Made in USA

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This knife was in my father-in-law's toolbox when he died and no other family member had any interest in it at all. I feigned disinterest, but grabbed it quickly.
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I hope it isn't bad form to piggyback on to this thread, but it made me remember an old knife I have. It has a metal sheath.
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It has the "U.S.N." "Mark I" on one side and "RH -35" with an oval in between that says " PAL Made in USA

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This knife was in my father-in-law's toolbox when he died and no other family member had any interest in it at all. I feigned disinterest, but grabbed it quickly.
Any information will be more than I have (although I haven't googled yet).

There are several Facebook pages dedicated to various knife enthusiasts. Try Vintage Knife Trader on FB
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[QUOTE=Jack Flash;140864169]Sure, a whole tool truck would be great to have. While you're at it, throw in a couple of trailers full of spare parts, nuts and bolts, and don't forget coffee and donuts!

But that ignores the haphazard and chaotic conditions encountered during warfare. Guys found themselves having to do all sorts of jobs with only the tools they had on them. In such situations, the 225 Q was a godsend.[/QUOTE]

One, not all, reason the duck bill was replaced by the bird cage on the M-16 was too many guys were popping metal bands on c-rat cases and other things. The main reason given was the "wait a minute vines". Too bad. The duck bill was a much better flash suppressor.

My second 225Q came to me in an old Randall sheath. Now that's the money shot. It is amazing the edge the 225 Q takes. Both are really sharp, and tough. I guess I'll have to take a picture.
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Shortly after WW2, I lived in Meridian, Mississippi. There was a
Western Auto store there and it had the boxes full of new knives that were war surplus. My dad bought two brand new 225Q knives for $2.00 each. I still have both knives. At the time, I did not know anything about them. They are still in good used condition.
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Really cool. I have a Ka-bar, one of the newer ones. Got it like 20 years ago when I was a teen. Goes with me on every camping trip and just last week used it to open a can of beans. Scratched some of the black paint off the blade, but thats ok I got the beans open and now it has more character.
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$2.00!! I have a book that has lots of old Cattaraugus ads. They were heavy into marketing, as were other manufacturers in those days.
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Just won another very nice Cattaraugus on eBay for $76 shipped. Looks to be in great shape but the leather sheath is tattered and dry rotted.
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Does anybody know where I can get a sheath for mine?

I would like to carry on my belt when camping. A correct sheath would be nice, but anything that works would be ok.
This craftsman, Kaleb, restored my fatherís Cattaraugus 225Q sheath very nicely. He makes various sheathes, does good work, and is reasonable: Muskrat Man Knives Home

I see Kaleb has a separate site for leather work now: Possum Hollow Trading - Member Gallery - Leatherworker.net

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Back some 30 years ago, my dad was at the local hardware store. The proprietor and Pop were on pretty good terms. One day Pop was there and Al, the proprietor, pulled out some big Ka-Bar knives and said to Pop that the knives had somehow gotten wet, which blemished the finishes. With the blemished finishes, Al said he couldn't sell the knives as new, and offered them to Pop for $5 (five bucks) apiece. Pop took a look at them and figured, "I've carried knives that looked worse." He ended up buying at least 3 of the knives and gave one of them to me. I spent an entire afternoon hand sharpening it, but that just proved what quality steel went into the knife. When I sharpened it, the knife stayed sharp. I'll have to dig it out and then figure out who to pass it along to, because I'm never getting rid of it.
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I hope it isn't bad form to piggyback on to this thread, but it made me remember an old knife I have. It has a metal sheath.
Attachment 465279

It has the "U.S.N." "Mark I" on one side and "RH -35" with an oval in between that says " PAL Made in USA

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This knife was in my father-in-law's toolbox when he died and no other family member had any interest in it at all. I feigned disinterest, but grabbed it quickly.
Any information will be more than I have (although I haven't googled yet).

USN deck knife, MK I. Sheath is plastic or rigid fiber.
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