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08-20-2020, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by peter-paul
I COULD NOT DISAGREE WITH THIS POST MORE.
There are a lot of assumptions here, and all of them are dead wrong in a capitalist, free-market society. This post belies a level of hubris that is mind-boggling.
1) You assume the person who owns something must relinquish THEIR PROPERTY at a price point that YOU are comfortable with.
2) In a capitalist country, both parties come to an agreement, in which they both exercise free will in order to buy / sell. NO external authority sets a "price guideline" (despite you trying to do it in your post above).
3) "If you are indeed just an honest man..."; by whose standard? In a market, honesty only applies to the condition and description of the items proffered, not the intention as to why they are proferred for sale. The seller is under ZERO obligation to temper his zeal for making a profit. Your statement assumes dishonesty as the default state. Look at what is offered and decide if it is what you and the market will bear, not through some emotional lens.
4) Market conditions dictate price. Has anything happened to the market lately? It is a seller's market. People should have prepared decades ago, long ago. None of this was a surprise, just like people knew decades ago that smoking was bad for you. Same concept.
5) "Folks can make up excuses..." Are you insane? In what world is a seller obligated to have a moral justification to sell an item, in which the justification to sell is morally defensible to YOU?
People do not exist in order to sell and buy according to some loosely defined "what they should do" morals. People exist and in doing so, they advance their interests. You act as if the OP should be running a charity, and accuse as if instead he is operating a monopoly. The level of ego on display to make these assertions is astounding
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You seem to have misunderstood me because I said nothing of the sort. I merely stated that price-gouging is morally reprehensible. Period.
Furthermore, to liken charging the current market value for an item rather than jacking up the price to an act of charity is completely absurd.
Folks can make whatever flimsy justifications they like in order to help themselves sleep at night for taking advantage of the fear/desperation of their fellow man, but it isn't me they have to answer to for it, and if they truly believed that the practice of overcharging for essential goods isn't immoral then they'd have no reason to be offended or argue with me.
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08-20-2020, 12:30 PM
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That's just it. Define "overcharging". Is it charging more than what you think is right?
Or more than what the market will bear?
If the former, well I think my post stands.
If the latter, then they make no sale and your post fails to stand.
Charging what the market will bear is in no way reprehensible.
Markets fluctuate.
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08-20-2020, 12:52 PM
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Back in BC, Before Corona, some auctions had Glocks starting @ $700+ with no buyers. Now, that seems to be the going rate and sometimes more, for some of them.
Where/when was the gouging/overpricing? Was it when there were no demand/buyers at that price? Or is it now, when the market/demand caught up with the price from 6 months ago?
I don't know about you guys, but I've never been gouged, or overcharged, but I have willingly paid too much too soon.
Guns are not an "essential" item.
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08-20-2020, 01:40 PM
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I have not had people haggling too much, and I expect a little negotiation unless I state "firm " price. Still get some trying to get it reduced. And I have bought and sold a lot on Armslist (like others) and have not had a problem. I clearly state bill of sale and show me some ID. Got a couple I am thinking about putting on AL right now.
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