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It is certainty a new in box rifle. It is unfired (until next week). I did the normal strip-down and found no powder. There was a lot of dust. I got the box and all the paperwork.







I happen to have a pair of Winchester rifles from ~1975. One of them was my first "deer" rifle as a hunter (also in 30/30).



I like them to my long history with one, and also the affordable price. JMO, the older guns have great wood and great blueing. That is not found in modern rifles.
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That’s like a time capsule! Simply amazing.
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I don't think I would be firing an unfired NIB 1967 M94. I have a 1966 M94, but it has been used a lot. Back in the early 1990s as the result of a trade I had one of the M94 "commemoratives" (I don't remember which one) Winchester was pushing, also NIB. I had a chance to turn it for a profit so I never fired it. Sort of wish I'd kept it.
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I don't think I would be firing an unfired NIB 1967 M94...
I get your concern.

Yet, Winchester made 90,000+ of these Commemorative rifles. I suspect half were stored in a closet. It was the 100th year of Canada (and Alaska). The serial number is in the top 66% so not rare there.

A few trips to a range while laying on a rubber pad is not going to harm or scratch the blueing or stock so no harm here. I'll clean it as soon as I get home.

I may think differently if it was a pre-1964 with the better parts. Those rifles really get a premium price over newer ones.
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Agreed. With over 90,000 made it's not really much of a collectible item.

Consider for a minute that the Winchester Model 52 Sporter reproductions in the 1980s. IIRC they made about 5000 of the Model 52B version and 5000 of the Model 52C version with a couple thousand commissioned by Fajen. They are considered one of the best *production* sporters ever made, so they sell in the $800-$1200 range, but only the Fajen version is really collectible.

If they made more than 1000 or 2000 of them, it's not a collectible.

In that regard when I went looking for a Model 94 in .38-55 in very good to excellent condition, I ended up buying a Legendary Frontiersman Commemorative. They made 19999 of them in 1979 and in those numbers they are not all that collectible.

In mint condition in an excellent condition box with all the hang tags they'll bring $1100-$1200. Mine had a couple handling marks on the stock and a box in only good condition and I paid less than $800 for it.

But like all commemoratives from the XTR period it has the XTR fit and finish and it's an excellent shooter.

The thing is, I'll shoot it a lot and when I sell it it'll still bring about $800 as a shooter, provided I don't abuse it.



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I see they are bringing better money lately. Friend bought the Oliver F. Winchester Comm. for around $600-650 back in 1980 I think also in 38-55. Too bad those guns could not have been based on the 1873-76 Models. At least they would be period correct models.
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While I cannot be 100% certain your 94 might be the same one I almost pulled the trigger on about four months ago when I was seeking a birth year firearm. It was advertised as NIB and unfired. Ultimately I decided not to go on it because I already have 3 shooter grade 94’s and a Henry .30-.30.

Congrats on your “new” one!
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I realize the backand forth about the commemoratives, their value, shoot 'em or not.
But having a truely NIB specimen with the papers,,I'd be tempted to at least run it around a couple cycles on GB or one of the other internet auction sites and see it you get any bites at a decent price.

Perhaps enough profit can be had to buy yourself a pre64 in nice condition or even a pre-war2 made 1894.

You already have a 'shooter commemorative' that is your first deer rifle.
I'd try and take the opportunity of the NIB status of this one to turn it into that early Model 94 you've been looking for.

It may work, may not. A couple weeks on an auction site isn't a long time to find out.
If it doesn't sell at a decent profit,,then you keep it.
You already like it.,,and it is a 73y/o rifle!
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You already like it.,,and it is a 73y/o rifle!
You have a time machine?!?!?!

I was born in 1964 and I'm only 55 years old.

You're apparently posting from 2036 and I want to know how you are doing that! How'd 2020 turn out? Did a giant asteroid land on Washington DC on November 3 and clean out the whole mess like we all hoped? Did COVID go away? Does college football still exist?
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In that regard when I went looking for a Model 94 in .38-55 in very good to excellent condition, I ended up buying a Legendary Frontiersman Commemorative.....
Check this out (Chuck Hawks):

Winchester Model 94 Legendary Frontiersmen .38-55 Rifle
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That quite possibly could have been my rifle.
I had the Canadian Centennial rifle and carbine, both NIB.
I sold them some years ago on GB through a friend/FFL dealer.
I got them since it was by birth year.
When we did some major remodeling I sold both, as they were nice but not really in my scope of collecting.
Very nice, enjoy it!
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Very cool- any rifle that is 50+ years old and still NIB is sweet!
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That quite possibly could have been my rifle.
This was one of 200 guns (mostly rifles) owned by the Estate of an AL collector. It seems he never fired most of them.
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You have the carbine version. My best friend had the rifle version. He sold it and never told me that he was going to do it. He bought it new
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I own the Canadian centennial M94 rifle. I didn't know they even made a 26" rifle version until I saw this one in the used rack at a gun store!
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You have a time machine?!?!?!, Why yes I do. It's in the garage with my MIG welder and my crop duster Bi-Plane that I built myself out of a sno-mobile.

I was born in 1964 and I'm only 55 years old. ...Child

You're apparently posting from 2036 and I want to know how you are doing that! ...I cannot divulge the true secrets here,,call me on your yr-2030 gov't issue rotary dial phone for instructions


How'd 2020 turn out? ... Hugh Downs came back & continues as host


Did a giant asteroid land on Washington DC on November 3 and clean out the whole mess like we all hoped? ....Yes Jerry Nadler stumbled, some property damage but everyone in the immediate area was OK.


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I was gifted an unfired NIB Oliver Winchester in .38-55 about 5 years ago. It is still unfired. In 1980, when the rifle was first sold, each one came with a commemorative box of ammo in the box with the rifle. Those also bring big bucks. I am lucky enough to have 2 of those boxes of ammo. Many times when these guns are sold on the secondary market, the seller will remove the box of commemorative ammo to maximize profit.
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I lucked out getting my 1894 in 38-55 . My father gave me his . Researching found it left the factory in April 1897 . I cast and reload for it . I haven't gotten around to black powder yet . I have found IMR 4198 and Accurate 5744 works well . The 4198 gives me a little tighter groups , so far . As for a 30-30 I wanted a pre-64 and waited . At my local shop I found one , made in 1948 in really great shape . So I have both now . I shoot cast in the 30-30 as well . My favorite powders for it are IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 . I did find that a load of Unique makes a real fun shoot all day load . Regards , Paul
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Paul,
I 100% agree. It took me years to find a few older nice S&W revolvers. I also waited for a nice pre-64 Winchester 94. Then bingo.

My new 1950 Winchester Model 94 was posted locally. It is my best rifle (it may be unfired?). It is in perfect condition.

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I think it is interesting that I can find a 1950 Winchester Model 94 (John M. Browning designed it) at a much lower price than a S&W The .357 Magnum (a pre-27).

I own a lettered S&W .357 Magnum from 1951.
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