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1860 Henry Reapeating Rifle
Would anyone have an idea of what an original wall hanger would be worth?
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Lot of variance in those original Henrys. I’d imagine an absolute dog would bring $4-6k...
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I seen one at a OGCA meeting years ago. I remember the tag said it was a west Texas dug up find. Rusted to pieces and non functional. It was priced at $5000
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I'd say the above estimates are probably in the ballpark. Original Henry rifles are super rare.
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09-11-2020, 01:57 AM
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I remember that a top condition Iron frame Henry sold at auction several years ago for over a half-million. One documented to have been used during the Civil War by the 1st DC cavalry (the only unit which used Henrys purchased by the Union Army) would probably bring at least $100K. A basket case, at least $5K.
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09-11-2020, 03:30 AM
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Ammo for an original 1860 Henry (.44 Rimfire ) is worth more than the gun!!
A friend of mine has both......
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Very funny!!! That's like asking how much an original Model T is worth!
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Probably about 15 K made. You can probably find a fairly nice one for 35 to 50 K, Check out Leroy Merz listings on either his website or Guns International.
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Im a Win collector, your 1860 value depends on condition and factory add on's. a Stock rifle in NRA (Modern) Excellent Brings 20K + or -. Collectors in Houston had a 1866 owned by the Prez of Mexico back in 1876 that had mild/minor factory engraving sold for $120,000.00 USD 16 years ago. Ill by any VG+ 1866 all day for 3 to 5 K.
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The Henry rifle is a model 1860 and loaded near the front of the magazine. The 1866 was called the Yellow Boy and had a forearm and a loading gate on the receiver.
I helped a friends widow sell a very rough Henry about 10 years ago and it brought $12,500. The stock had been poorly repaired multiple times and sanded down well below the metal, it had an old gunsmith made rear sight in a crudely cut dovetail on the front of the receiver and the metal had been vigorously cleaned. It had lots of dings, pits and scratches and the bore was horrible.
On the plus side, it was an authentic Henry rifle and even the screws were numbered to the gun. Good luck finding a decent one for under $20K. A lot of them have been restored, some were recently upgraded with engraving and there are outright fakes with spurious markings. You better know what you're doing or have a trusted advisor if you're going to play in that league!
I have a few rounds of ammo with different markings. They typically go for about $25/ea. Nice full boxes can easily top $2K.
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I have a few loose .44 Henry RF cartridges. They came in several different case lengths, I suppose according to the whims of the manufacturers (no SAAMI existed back then). Some bullets had a flat point, some did not. They were also used in the M1866 Winchester and a few other rifles. A small number of S&W Model 3 top break revolvers also chambered it, also some .44 cap and ball revolver conversions, like the Colt 1860 Army. For a cartridge which was manufactured well into the 1930s, they are seldom encountered today. Early full boxes of ammunition are priced into the stratosphere.
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Would anyone have an idea of what an original wall hanger would be worth?
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You didn't say if you were thinking of buying one or selling one. But if you are looking for a Henry to hang on the wall (and shoot!), keep in mind the Henry Rifle Company makes a Made in the USA Henry in several different finishes and configurations.
New Original Henry Rifles From Henry Repeating Arms | Henry Repeating Arms
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Good that someone is building a decent reproduction of the original Henry. Uberti also made one, maybe they still do. Some may be aware that there was also a .44 Henry centerfire cartridge version of late production Model 1866 Winchester rifles. Allegedly most of those rifles were exported to Brazil, and I have read that the .44 Henry CF cartridge may still be manufactured there. Very similar to the .44 S&W American.
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I have a friend that has several of the New Originals. They are magnificent rifles in fit, finish and manufacture. Shooting them is just too odd to me though—no forearm/fore-grip is so awkward. I guess Winchester has spoiled me.
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I have a friend that has several of the New Originals. They are magnificent rifles in fit, finish and manufacture. Shooting them is just too odd to me though—no forearm/fore-grip is so awkward. I guess Winchester has spoiled me.
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That was a shortcoming of the original Henry design, as was the way the magazine spring had to be compressed to load the tubular magazine. The magazine tube itself was easily damaged and dirt could get into it through the magazine follower slot. But even so, it was much superior to any muzzle loader. Evolution corrected both those problems.
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Dwalt—what was also odd is I suspected the rifles would get hot and burn your hand. We shot them quite a bit and they never became uncomfortable. Maybe the 44-40 and .45 colt simply don’t heat up barrels—I also remember the barrels were pretty thick and heavy too.
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A guy I know sold a fairly clean one a few years ago for thirty grand.
They are all basically wall hangers though as the ammo supply is basically non existent.
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Dwalt—what was also odd is I suspected the rifles would get hot and burn your hand. We shot them quite a bit and they never became uncomfortable. Maybe the 44-40 and .45 colt simply don’t heat up barrels—I also remember the barrels were pretty thick and heavy too.
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I think in depends whether you are shooting smokeless or black. Black powder will heat up any firearm in short order while smokeless not so much.
Had a friend blow up a replica Henry by dropping the follower on a magazine with 10 rounds. Two or three went off, bulging the magazine tube and drawing blood on one arm. Not a problem with the original rimfire cartridges, but center fire must be handled carefully by lowering the follower gently.
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