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Uberti, What's Not to Like
I like single action Colts. Although they are pricey, they seem to hold their value very well. Ten years ago I thought that $1,000.00 was too much to pay for a Colt SAA, now they sell for twice that much, if you can find them.
So for everyday plinking and something to carry around while I am making my rounds on the farm, I have used Uberti Single actions. The first one I bought was purchased 30 years ago for a SASS gun. Short barreled .45 Colt. It has performed flawlessly in all those years. I even had it on my CCW for a little while. The next Uberti I bought was a .44 WCF with a 7.5 inch barrel. I thought it would be nice to match the lever gun I had in .44 WCF. Last year I found a .45 Colt Cavalry Uberti model.
They all shoot really well. The bore diameter matches the cylinder throats perfectly. I know that there is nothing like a Colt, but there is nothing wrong with a Uberti, and you don't have to break the bank. http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachm...1&d=1600637599
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I have an 1885 High Wall made by Uberti in .30-30. It's well made, very slick operating and shoots 1 MOA groups at 100 yards with a tang sight and globe front sight.
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I have a pair of 4 3/4" SAAs in .45 Colt by Uberti. For me they are just fun guns to shoot, and I could never afford the equivalent in Colts, much less shoot them.
One thing I found while researching which to buy is that there exists a bewildering array of models, and it can be difficult to determine which is which without a physical examination. I wanted 'four-click', non-transfer bar (i.e. original Colt style) actions, and found the above pictured guns, which are the "Patton" model. Fortunately, the only attributation to Patton were the lanyard rings and initials on the stocks, both of which were easily removed.
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I have owned and shot Uberti’s for almost 30 years. They are well made, fabulous firearms.
My current are.
1861 Navy
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The three on top on my Ubertis, the other two are Winchesters
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I bought my Cattleman new almost thirty years ago. Came with dual cylinders, .45 ACP and .45 Long Colt. With the case hardened frame, and the beautiful wood grips and deep blue barrel, I consider it one of the prettiest handguns I own.
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I don't own any Uberti's, but several friends do. All like them for accuracy and quality.
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It is to my understanding that for a time, Uberti was an officially licensed producer of Colt-branded Single Action Army Revolvers in Italy and rumor has it that for a time they were actually producing certain parts for Colt as well which were imported into the United States and subsequently used in otherwise American-Made, Colt manufactured SAAs.
Uberti was also the company that manufactured Colt clones for Spaghetti Westerns, most notably Sergio Leone's The Man with No Name Trilogy starring Clint Eastwood.
Uberti is also a subsidiary of Benelli which also owns Beretta, so that ought to speak well of their quality.
Personally, I don't have the money for a Colt Single Action Army, and even if I did, I wouldn't want to spend the amount of money they go for, so an Uberti would be my choice to fill that space.
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I have an 1873 Cattleman .45 LC that was an unredeemed pawn so basically little invested in it. shows some holster wear but is fine shooter.
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I have a Taylor’s Smokewagon Uberti .45 with 4 3/4” barrel and checkered walnut grips. It has one of the best trigger pulls. It is one of my favorites.
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It is to my understanding that for a time, Uberti was an officially licensed producer of Colt-branded Single Action Army Revolvers in Italy and rumor has it that for a time they were actually producing certain parts for Colt as well which were imported into the United States and subsequently used in otherwise American-Made, Colt manufactured SAAs.
Any Colts sold in Italy were built by Colt, not Uberti. Colt parts have been/are made by Colt. There have been some Colt branded firearms built by other companies. The Colt Jr .25 ACP was built by Astra. Also, Colt black powder revolvers were also either built from Italian parts or were built in Italy.
Uberti was also the company that manufactured Colt clones for Spaghetti Westerns, most notably Sergio Leone's The Man with No Name Trilogy starring Clint Eastwood.
Uberti is also a subsidiary of Benelli which also owns Beretta, so that ought to speak well of their quality.
This is confusing. Uberti was bought by Beretta and became a subsidiary of Beretta. Uberti was then acquired by Benelli, which is also a member of the Beretta Holding Company.
Personally, I don't have the money for a Colt Single Action Army, and even if I did, I wouldn't want to spend the amount of money they go for, so an Uberti would be my choice to fill that space.
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What's not to like. Other than the base pin retaining.
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I like both the Colt and the Uberti.
One of each.
A Uberti reproduction of the 1875 Remington.
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What's not to like. Other than the base pin retaining.
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There should be a "normal" base pin retainer in the box. Mine(see my post) came with both.
Edit. It is my understanding that for some reason they ship with the oversize screw mounted.
Edit2. I swapped the base pin on mine with one without the 2 position safety. It looks better that way.
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My 1875 Schofield, 5 1/2” .38 Special is a nicely made revolver. I bought it after shooting a friend's .45 Colt version.
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My 1875 Schofield, 5 1/2” .38 Special is a nicely made revolver. I bought it after shooting a friend's .45 Colt version.
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My Uberti, a Cimarron, when put side-by-side with a Colt SAA, shows better fit and finish.
Great guns for a very fair price.
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It is to my understanding that for a time, Uberti was an officially licensed producer of Colt-branded Single Action Army Revolvers in Italy and rumor has it that for a time they were actually producing certain parts for Colt as well which were imported into the United States and subsequently used in otherwise American-Made, Colt manufactured SAAs.
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The modern Colt black powder revolvers came in three generations.
First Generation:
The early Colt Signature Series guns were first produced in 1971 when Colt began buying Uberti parts from Val Forgett to produce the first run of "2nd Generation" Colt Navy pistols in the Hartford plant. These slightly undersized guns, featuring early square-backed trigger guards and authentic Colt stampings, were made until 1973. From 1974 to 1976 Colt obtained parts from one of its distributors, Lou Imperato, who in turn got them from Uberti. These Colt re-issue guns are known as C Series guns and were finished in a Colt Factory.
Second Generation:
From 1979 to 1982, Lou Imperato made the entire gun in his New Jersey factory as “The Authentic Colt Blackpowder Series.” Using Uberti parts, finished and assembled in the United States with Colt performing final inspection, these guns are known as the F Series.
The Second Generation pistols were discontinued when the bean counters at Colt forced the company to drop the manufacture and sale of the 2nd generation percussion Colts.
Third Generation:
Colt dropping the second gen pistols left Imperato, the sub contractor, in a bind and almost bankrupted his company. As a result, and in order to avoid a lawsuit, Colt eventually let Imperato's renamed Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. produce Colt-licensed Signature Series Colt revolvers from 1994 to 2002. Once again these used Uberti parts with all fitting and finishing done in the US.
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Not trying to add confusion to who made what when & where but How does
Cimarron fit into the mix?
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Don't have a SAA, Colt or otherwise, but have always wanted one as a fun gun. Would love to get an artillery model in .45LC. Probably an Uberti clone.
Would also love to get a Schofield. I really like the top-break feature (a Webley would be nice, too).
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Not trying to add confusion to who made what when & where but How does
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Not an expert, so I could be wrong, but I believe Uberti is the manufacturer and Cimarron Arms is a distributor.
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Not an expert, so I could be wrong, but I believe Uberti is the manufacturer and Cimarron Arms is a distributor.
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Correct, some of Cimarron's guns are/were Pietta. Cimarron gun are no more than custom orders from various makers.
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Don't have a SAA, Colt or otherwise, but have always wanted one as a fun gun. Would love to get an artillery model in .45LC. Probably an Uberti clone.
Would also love to get a Schofield. I really like the top-break feature (a Webley would be nice, too).
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Got that covered.
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I like 44-40 and have an Uberti '73 Winchester repop in 44-40, a Colt Bisley Uberti repop, and Uberti Schofield all chambered the same. So far I have not had one problem with any of the three, they all shoot well the '73 Winchester surprisingly well. I've been told that their casehardening is very thin and almost a surface finish which will fade in sunlight. The best case hardening will fade if exposed to extreme sunlight, I remember seeing a stunning '86 Winchester that was in a display case, I asked to take a better look at and the owner said "look on the other side." The other side was all bleached out, case hardening was silver/grey, wood sunbleached. The guy said it had been hanging in a cabin in direct sunlight for over 50 years.
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I've owned a couple of Uberti colt clones over the years. Excellent guns. Unfortunately I have a touch of arthritis in my hands that makes the Colt style grip un-useable for me. The back of the trigger guard beats the hell out of my middle finger knuckle. Only takes about one or two cylinders full to have it bleeding.
However, I do own an Navy Arms/Uberti copy of the Schofield in .45 Colt and it works just fine. It too is an excellent gun and shoots great.
One of these days I'd like to give the copy of the Remington 1875 a try. But I've never found one for sale around here.
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Hopefully this can explain Cimarron's connection with Uberti.
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The modern Colt black powder revolvers came in three generations.
First Generation:
The early Colt Signature Series guns were first produced in 1971 when Colt began buying Uberti parts from Val Forgett to produce the first run of "2nd Generation" Colt Navy pistols in the Hartford plant. These slightly undersized guns, featuring early square-backed trigger guards and authentic Colt stampings, were made until 1973. From 1974 to 1976 Colt obtained parts from one of its distributors, Lou Imperato, who in turn got them from Uberti. These Colt re-issue guns are known as C Series guns and were finished in a Colt Factory.
Second Generation:
From 1979 to 1982, Lou Imperato made the entire gun in his New Jersey factory as “The Authentic Colt Blackpowder Series.” Using Uberti parts, finished and assembled in the United States with Colt performing final inspection, these guns are known as the F Series.
The Second Generation pistols were discontinued when the bean counters at Colt forced the company to drop the manufacture and sale of the 2nd generation percussion Colts.
Third Generation:
Colt dropping the second gen pistols left Imperato, the sub contractor, in a bind and almost bankrupted his company. As a result, and in order to avoid a lawsuit, Colt eventually let Imperato's renamed Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. produce Colt-licensed Signature Series Colt revolvers from 1994 to 2002. Once again these used Uberti parts with all fitting and finishing done in the US.
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I always thought that the 1st generation guns were original Colt. The 2nd generation were the blackpowder Colt's that came out in the 1970's, and the 3rd generation were the signature Colts from the Blackpowder series in the 1990's.
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Got that covered.
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Those a couple of beautiful Webley's! They look brand new, did you go down to the factory and pick them out yourself?
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Those a couple of beautiful Webley's! They look brand new, did you go down to the factory and pick them out yourself?
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I do own a couple of Uberti made revolvers. here is my Colt Open top model 1872, Cattleman with 5 1/2 inch barrel. The 4 3/4 inch is not mine. The Uberti Russian in .44 Russian (what else?) And the oldest made in 1969 the Stallion in .22lr.
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I have also the Webley covered. MK V, MK IV, MK III and the Fosbery.
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Cimarron is a distributor, not a manufacturer, but the distributor can make a difference.
For example, Cimarron, Taylor and Company, and other labels, order often order firearms from Uberti, Chiappa/Armi Sport, and Pedersoli, and catalog them all at the same time. Cimarron and Taylor and Company generally specify a very high level of fit and finish, regardless of who manufactures it.
Other distributors may order the same firearms at as high a level fo fit and finish - or at a lower standard of fit and finish. That specification is almost always reflected in the retail price. If a distributor orders a lower level of fit and finish, it can get the firearms at a commensurately lower cost, and in turn sell them at a commensurately lower price.
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I've had several Uberti firearms (mostly black powder revolvers) and agree that they put out a very nice product. But even Uberti has QC slip-ups from time to time.
I bought an 1885 Low Wall reproduction in 32-20 caliber. The chamber wasn't reamed right and produced the results shown in the photo. The distributor refused to replace it but said they would repair it. It took about 9 months to get it fixed and every time I called there was a different reason for the delay. I eventually got it back and they gave me a globe front sight for my troubles. The repaired rifle shot OK so when a friend expressed interest in the rifle I sold it to him.
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Does anyone own a Cimarron Bad Boy in either 6" or 8" bbl.? I like the looks ,but no one stocks them and I do not know how they feel or shoot. All the articles I have read on line are old.I guess they hold up in 44 Mag.which I am interested in.Thanks.
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One by Cimarron IIRC that I would love to find is the replica of the 1887 Winchester lever action 12 gauge, Wendy can handle the round and the recoil but the long, for her arms, pump of the Mossberg 590 here has her saying that one is yours. She would have to angle it up to work the action, but a lever gun is another issue.
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Thanks ya'll - a lot of nice guns. Rodan I love the whole set up. Can you describe what those are (standard finish, engraving?) and where the leather came from? Thank you!
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Rodan I love the whole set up. Can you describe what those are (standard finish, engraving?) and where the leather came from? Thank you!
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Thanks!
They are the Cimarron "Patton" SAA. Nickel finish, laser engraving. I believe they are also available with a 5 1/2" barrel (which would be more accurate for a Patton tribute). As they come, the only nod to Patton is a lanyard loop on the bottom of the grip frame, and the initials 'GSP' and four stars on the grips. Cimarron p/n is PP410LNPT.
I sanded down and 'aged' the grips (they're stark white out of the box), and removed the lanyard.
The laser engraving is obviously not 'real' engraving when examined close up, but it looks nice, and is tastefully designed. I just wanted something a little fun and fancy in a pair of sixguns I didn't have to feel bad about shooting...
The leather is a custom rig by Reddog Leather out of KY. He can be found on FB and eBay.
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My one and only- so far- I had a occasion to visit their showroom the other day-- WOW!! Now I know where I can find suitable leather for this one in 38/40
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One by Cimarron IIRC that I would love to find is the replica of the 1887 Winchester lever action 12 gauge, Wendy can handle the round and the recoil but the long, for her arms, pump of the Mossberg 590 here has her saying that one is yours. She would have to angle it up to work the action, but a lever gun is another issue.
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there is always the Chinchester M87, mine has worked well
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