Classic12, is that Victory a .38 S&W or a .38 S&W Special?

Great thread, some awesome firearms and shooting. Thanks for taking the time to show us what’s going on in Switzerland.

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30 years ago it was very difficult to avoid military service and the Swiss army was supposedly able to mobilise 600’000 men within 48 hours (in a country of 6 million people back then). Nowadays and with the end of the Cold War, the army was reduced to 150’000 men.

Marksmanship depends a lot of each individual’s ambition and I have a lot of friends who were in the army (since it was compulsory) but who have no interest in guns or shooting.

Nevertheless it is still a very popular sport or hobby so I’d guess that we have a good number of capable shooters.

Also in the past in was very natural to keep the rifle or pistol at the end of the service, so attics are filled with K11/K31 and Stgw 57 and 90 as well as Swiss Lugers, P49 (Sig P210) and P75 (Sig P220). But the new generation is less interested and many leave the weapon with the army now.

And that has carried on with the Stgw 57 and 90

.38 S&W (Short and Weak, before they invented the .40 S&W)

I bought it five years ago at an auction for $ 120

The last two Saturdays a couple of friends and I decided to do something different. We have access to the summer range since my buddies are in the shooting committee, one of them is actually the President of the Association and they have the keys. They also got the green light from the local authorities. The weather was fairly nice and mostly dry.

I picked up some solid frying pans from the junkyard. Some rattle can spray. You see where this is going.



We attached them with wire to the frame at the 50 m lanes (there’s also this little metallic arrow, and we shot some cigar tubes as well, those are challenging targets even with a scoped .22 and a little wind).





And off they go



This is what it looks like at 50 meters



We brought several guns with us and decided to limit it to .22 lr. since families like to stroll in this region and we didn’t want to be too much of a nuisance.

Scoped Savage Mark II bolt action (not pictured)
FN Trombone pump action



Scoped Ruger 10-22 semi auto



Sig P210 .22 lr conversion



AMT Lightning



One buddy brought this nice S&W 17-6 8 3/8”
and a semi auto FN in .22 short



Another buddy brought a CZ 457 bolt action rifle and his new Glock 44

Temperature is cold but the range is hot





We had a ton of (cheap) fun and blasted some 7-800 rounds..



Good thing I recently bought 5000 rounds at $ 90.-/1000





I also brought along my two Anacondas to show them to my friends. They couldn’t resist and insisted we put a couple of rounds with the 4”. I had some old Remington 240 JHP in the speedloaders



Went trough like butter









Another great shooting day in Switzerland.

I just hope you weren't using good vintage Griswold or Wagner skillets.

Don’t even know what that is. Fyi I live in Switzerland

Took some more real Classic handguns at the 25 m indoor range today

1979 FN GP35 Capitan





1940 Colt M1903 Hammerless (that one was a bit of a stretch at 25 m today)



1936 Mauser Luger





1979 Colt GM Mark IV series’ 70 9mm Luger





1972 S&W 66



And a Classic rifle at the 50m range
1980 Colt AR-15 SP1 carbine with a vintage 3X Colt scope

Some 50 m indoor range shooting

Rifles standing

SA M1A loaded





AR-15 SP1



Sporter lightweight 9 mm





Handguns rested

Python Silhouette





629-2

Looks like Ami day at the range.
Nice choices.


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I managed to sneak in at the indoor 25/50 m range a few times in the last three weeks. Essential business as far as I am concerned, just to keep sane in this weird period.

S&W 53-2 - 1974



The flamethrower



Colt King Cobra .38 - 1993



Sig P210-5 target



AMT Small Game Hunter II





COLT AR-15 A2 Gvt Carbine - 1989





Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless - 1940



CZ 75 short rail - 1978



CZ 75 short rail - 1975



S&W 19-3 - 1970



Remington Rand 1911A1 - 1943



Ruger NM Blackhawk .30 Carbine - 1984



Colt Python - 1996



Colt 1911 - 1913



Mauser Luger - 1936



Sig P49 - 1958

The outdoor range has opened. Saturday was a nice day, started sunny then a little overcast



The 25 m range on the bottom, the 50 m range on top, rimfire carbine on the left, pistol on the right



The 300 m rifle range on the right



Started with some .22lr warmup with the S&W 41



Then practice with the Sig P210-5



98



98



98



And 99. Would have liked to score 100, well maybe another day

Some wheel guns with wad cutters

S&W 27-3





S&W 66





CZ 75





And some antiques

Mauser Luger 1936. It has a 10 lbs trigger so it’s hard work





FN GP 35 1944

This one shoots all over, maybe the workers at the factory during the German occupation didn’t put their best effort in this one




In any case a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon

Thanks for sharing these photos! You seem to shoot that Model 66 very well. Is this one-handed or two-handed?

Two-handed

We need more of that kind of shooting here in the U.S. Maybe you should come over as a kind of "missionary" and spread the doctrine of "slow down and shoot tight groups"!

Joking aside, if I can ever get things sorted out so that I can go shooting regularly, I intend to get back to basics and do the kind of shooting that you do. Thanks for sharing the great pictures!

Saturday was a busy shooting day

First, one club were I’m a member had a .22 lr morning session

On arrival we found out some member had just replaced the old rotten wood barrier, we still have to identify who did this beautiful job .



The shooters touch : a Sig P210 and a Swiss Luger carved in the barrier



I started with some casual steel plinking at 25 and 50 m





Then I tried some serious practice

S&W 17-6





AMT Lightning





S&W 41





Quick lunch break with a Swiss cheese fondue prepared by a Swiss member, this variation is with mushrooms



Then I drove a short 7 miles to another club where the afternoon was for shooting service pistols

SIG P210-6 in 9mm



Same model but in 7.65 mm



CZ 75 short rail from 1975



S&W 66 from 1972



HK P8



I was getting a bit tired and my groups became larger and shifted away

So I took a little rest by shooting 40 rounds of GP11 / 7.5 X 55 mm Swiss with my Stgw 57 / Sig 510-1 in the prone position at the 300 m range

Classic, thank you for continuing to update this thread. Agreed that shooting sports is an essential business.

Nice Tag Heuer. Please share more pictures of: first year delivery 210-1 from 1949.

That gun is amazing. Congrats!

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Thanks. There you go





And here is the original thread on it when I bought it

SIG P 210-1 army

And an interesting test target with the description. Quite amazing accuracy for a service pistol (or ten pistols in that case)

Yeah baby, I'd be all in on that lovely cheesy pot of delishiousness!!!
None of that gluten free lactose intolerance nonsense at that table. Bon appetit.



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And please share a picture of the Heuer.

I have liked them for some time now.

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Hi Mario

Sorry forgot to reply

Here it is, nothing special I think, bought it in 2005, so a modern Tag Heuer unlike yours, which are originals from the Jack Heuer era I believe

It’s been a while since I updated this post, and I’ve shot quite a bit since then.

End July the indoor shooting range owner organised an outdoor 200 m shooting session in the countryside (it’s actually a military terrain).





There are paper targets as well as reactive “jockey” targets, in yellow



My comfy setup in the gravels




I decided to be reasonable and not haul too many weapons

M1 Carbine Underwood. I hadn’t shot this one past 50 meters yet. It was a joy to shoot and the jockeys were popping down easily, even standing.



SA M1A loaded. Same, 1st time at 200 meters, very accurate with open sights although on the heavy side when standing



Colt AR-15 SP1 with original scope, a regular feature, light, easy and accurate



Colt M4 with an ACOG, first time out at 200 meters also. Easy and trouble-free



Ruger 10/22 target. First time shooting at 200 meters with any .22 lr. Worked surprisingly well.



And a couple of handguns, Manurhin MR73 .357 magnum and SIG P210-6 .30 Luger. That was hard work, I’d say I recorded a 40-60% hit rate only.



This target is a mix of M1A / .308 and Ruger .22



This one was rapid fire with the Ruger once I had the correct holdover for 200 meters (rifle is sighted in for 50 meters)



This bloke had a wild muzzle break on his AR



Another fun Saturday morning.

There in the background is a uniquely "Swiss" thing. The timber art that is the Swiss stacked wood pile.
A person couldn’t help but notice what diligence, care and thoroughness a farmer piled his fireplace wood.
We had a saw mill at the end of our street in Muhen, and the planks of the sawn logs were perfectly spaced and stacked in a drying shed for years. They would selectively harvest the timber from the town's forest, and leave the site immaculate and looking almost untouched.

Smaller branches were neatly cut, stacked, and covered along the forest roads. Eventually, they would be moved alongside the barn, melding a perfect architectural collage by the thorough Swiss.

Exactly a week later I went to the 300 m range. Again I tried to be reasonable and only brought four rifles, two scoped and two open sighted

Remington 700 SPS tactical
Springfield Armory M1A loaded
Colt AR-15A2 Gvt model
Colt AR-15A2 Delta Hbar





The setting





Foreground is 50 meters (pistol and .22 lr competition rifle), background 300 meters

















I recently bought a very cheap vintage Zeiss Diavari 2.5-10 scope. Much better quality than the original Tasco 3-9.



Bullseye















Lastly the shooter next to me let me try his Swiss ZFK 55. What a thrill

We reached the end of the outdoor shooting season here in Switzerland, with two friendly club closing pistol competitions

First my own club. Ten shots at 25 meters and ten shots at 50 meters

I used two different (but almost identical) SIG P210-6, the 9 mm for 25 m (bottom) and the 7.65 mm for 50 m (top), so I don’t have to mess with the sights at different distances





The 25 m ordnance target, 97/100



The 50 m field target, counting 1 to 5 rings



First two practice shots, perfect, almost too good to be true





The ten shots, 42/50



Result. Finished 3rd out of 27 with 139/150 and 29/30 on the practice shots, used to break eventual ties.



The 50 m lane





Followed by a drink outside and a nice meal inside (deer fondue Bourguignonne)

The week after we were invited by the Lausanne police corp shooting club.

25 meters competition, 5 practice shots and 20 competition shots on the ISSF speed target

Again the 210-6 9 mm is my weapon of choice, with vintage military ammo



1st pass in 5 minutes



2nd pass in 3 minutes



3rd pass in 60 seconds



4th pass in 40 seconds



Result, 2nd out of 19 with 188/200 and 46/50 on practice, used to break ties.

And I made some money, as you get 10 Swiss francs if you score 175 or better and another 30 Swiss francs for 2nd place



Followed by drinks



Snacks



And food

Frog legs



Grilled beef



Garlic shrimps



Nice way to end the outdoor shooting season

Very nice Oliver!!!
I'm very jealous. I have nothing even close to your facilities here. I found out last weekend that our club indoor 20 yard range has a leaky roof

Food looks really good. Lovely countryside.

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The tendency of the Swiss to join clubs and then have events where townfolk come out to support each other's clubs was something I enjoyed.
Got to break bread with lots of nice folk and learn from them about subjects I'd never normally be exposed to. I miss those events, and appreciate the reminder.



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