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Old 09-27-2020, 08:41 PM
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Palmetto State Armory says that due to demand the Dagger 9mm pistols are currently in production and are expected to ship out within 10 to 15 business days. They ask if you want to be notified when they they are back in stock. Does anyone know if any of these pistols have been sold and if the price was still around $300?
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Old 09-29-2020, 10:37 PM
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Has anyone here thought about buying one? This is supposed to one of the next “Glock killers”. For around $300 I might take a chance.
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Old 09-30-2020, 12:46 AM
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It's just another inexpensive Glock-A-Like, good for those who are seeking a cheap alternative to a Glock, but little else.

It's been done to death at this point, and by a lot of big-name manufacturers I might add, (Smith & Wesson, Springfield Armory, Mossberg, Taurus, the list goes on) so I honestly doubt that the PSA Dagger will be taking any business away from Glock when that are so many other inexpensive firearms fashioned after Glocks.

I don't have anything against Glock derivatives, in fact I carry a Smith & Wesson Sigma SW40VE which I honestly prefer over the Glock due to better overall ergonomics, but that's just my point... The Sigma is one of the oldest Glock derivatives out there, a derivative which has endured to this very day as the SD Series, but it has never even come close to really challenging Glock, despite featuring improved ergonomics that even the haters will begrudgingly admit is an improvement, and being offered at a significantly lower price-point. Other brands have tried as well, each one bringing something new to the table in attempt to improve upon the Glock, all with varying degrees of success, yet once again, none of them have ever really even challenged the Glock's dominance, much less overtaken it.

In short, there can be no such thing as a "Glock-Killer" because no matter how many new firearms are released, Glock has a reputation and legacy that cannot be beaten. It's kind of like a Colt 1911, lots of companies offer 1911s, and many of which are objectively superior to a Colt, but a Colt is a Colt. The brand name is so synonymous with the firearm that to this very day even folks who don't know about firearms are likely to identify a 1911 on-sight as a "Colt .45" even if it's not manufactured by Colt or chambered in .45 ACP.
Realistically speaking, the Glock design has been improved upon six ways until Sunday at this point, with the competition in many cases offering firearms of more sophisticated designs, sometimes at even lower prices than a Glock, yet Glock remains one of the most successful small arms manufacturers out there, and their firearms outsell the competition in spades. So if objectively more advanced, more feature-rich, more sophisticated designs haven't succeeded as Glock-Killers, then yet another budget-priced Glock derivative most certainly won't either.

Still, I'm sure that the PSA Dagger will find its niche amongst those who want a Glock, but can't afford a Glock, yet aren't satisfied by the Sigma, XD, MC1, Millennium, etc, or simply fancy it on its own merits. But the folks who have already decided that they want a Glock, nothing else will do, because Glock did it first, did so successfully, despite the existence of more sophisticated firearms. Glocks just plain work, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?
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Old 09-30-2020, 12:54 AM
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Who the heck is going to buy a 9mm now? Its a 300$ paperweight until 9mm comes back in stock.
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Who the heck is going to buy a 9mm now? Its a 300$ paperweight until 9mm comes back in stock.
To be fair, the same could be said for literally every other mainstream Self-Defense cartridge at this point, including ones which have gone into decline in recent years like .40 S&W.
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To be fair, the same could be said for literally every other mainstream Self-Defense cartridge at this point, including ones which have gone into decline in recent years like .40 S&W.

Bingo. Make me s 32. I proper full size 32acp I can still get that ammo.
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I have plenty of ammunition. For various guns and calibers. I never wanted a Glock, never wanted an improved Glock, or any clone or replica of a Glock. Glock doesn't need my business, isn't getting my business, and they don't care.

I do think that Forte Smitten Wesson is correct in what he says. But I have 3rd Gen S&Ws, I have S&W revolvers, I have Beretta pistols, Walthers, and some other well known brands, and even a polymer pistol or two. But if the public wants Glocks, fine, let them have their Glocks, clones, replicas, and improvements. A Glock cannot do anything better than any other gun on my personal list. And I have shot Glocks so it's not like I don't know what they are.

My guns ain't broke and don't need fixing or replacement. Especially by Glocks.
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Has anyone here thought about buying one? This is supposed to one of the next “Glock killers”. For around $300 I might take a chance.
One of many alleged “Glock killers,” yet all seem to be all hype. We’ll see. PSA has definitely made a name for itself these past few years.
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I have nothing against Glocks. Their reputation speaks for itself. The only thing I don’t like about them is the grip shape and angle.
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