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Suppressor Approval wait time?
Hi, Most recent answer I could find by search was from 2017. If you or somebody you know has purchased a suppressor in 2019 or 2020 could you please tell me how long the wait time was after supplying all the paperwork to Uncle Sam until you got the OK?
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Silencershop website has a page for the various filing types. It looks like 180 to 250 days is common.
I’m interested in getting another, but don’t feel like paying today for something I can’t have for 8 months. I’m glad I have 1 to mess around with.
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It took me 8 1/2 months in 2019. I know that's not much help for current wait time but that was also the wait time the year before. I hope someone has a more current time frame answer. My 1st was for my .22....I would like to buy one for my 9mm but no way I'm spending $$ for one 7 days before the election. I have even asked my LGS what would happen if there was a ban come 2/1/21? Would you get a refund on suppressor? On stamp? Sorry for getting off topic.
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My last one, purchased this year, was one week short of six months.
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A friend would of had his right at 6 months, but the Covid shut down added 3 months to that!
In 1983 is was 7 1/2 months for my MAC 10 and suppressor.
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I bought one in Jan of 2019, start to finish it was two days short of a full year before the tax stamp came in.
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6 months on my last one.
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A friend at work just picked up a can two weeks ago that he put the paper work in for about 6 months ago. That was right at the beginning of covid. He said his last one two years ago took about nine months.
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Weren't they supposed to pass something in congress under some hearing protection/public health act that would allow these to be sold with out a stamp??? ANd BTW how much is the stamp??? And where do you get one from??
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Threw a trust your looking 12 to 18 months last I checked... to me that long in 2016
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Weren't they supposed to pass something in congress under some hearing protection/public health act that would allow these to be sold with out a stamp??? ANd BTW how much is the stamp??? And where do you get one from??
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Never went threw got shelved after another school or mass shooting, one of the Trump boys were pushing it...
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Weren't they supposed to pass something in congress under some hearing protection/public health act that would allow these to be sold with out a stamp??? ANd BTW how much is the stamp??? And where do you get one from??
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$200 for the ATF issued stamp + the price of the suppressor + cost to engrave the suppressor.
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$200 for the ATF issued stamp + the price of the suppressor + cost to engrave the suppressor.
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You don't need to get the suppressor engraved. The manufacturer's info and serial number will be engraved on the silencer; your name, city and State is not a Federal requirement. The $200 tax stamp is.
Back to the OP's question, the last one this year took 11 months for approval.
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I bought my suppressor on June 20, 2018 and sent in the paperwork that day. I received the tax stamp on June 20, 2019. One year to the day.
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In 2019 mine took 11 months
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Whoa. People are crossing the streams here.
ATF approvals of a Form 1, build your own suppressors or a firearm/short barrel rifle, is about a month. They do need to be properly engraved per ATF regs. I had my local gun shop engrave professionally for $120 with an industrial laser this month.
Purchasing a pre-manufactured suppressor has a longer ATF approval time. They are pre engraved.
Please correct me if I misstated, but Think these issues need clarity. ATF’s EForms Has terrible technology, but still works okay and is a great opportunity to complete easily.
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Whoa. People are crossing the streams here.
ATF approvals of a Form 1, build your own suppressors or a firearm/short barrel rifle, is about a month. They do need to be properly engraved per ATF regs. I had my local gun shop engrave professionally for $120 with an industrial laser this month.
Purchasing a pre-manufactured suppressor has a longer ATF approval time. They are pre engraved.
Please correct me if I misstated, but Think these issues need clarity. ATF’s EForms Has terrible technology, but still works okay and is a great opportunity to complete easily.
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You are correct. If you build your own, you will need to have it engraved with your information per BATF regs. If you buy one from one of the many manufacturerers you will not need to have your personal info engraved on it.
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You are correct. If you build your own, you will need to have it engraved with your information per BATF regs. If you buy one from one of the many manufacturerers you will not need to have your personal info engraved on it.
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So if you build your own-fill out a Form one and then keep it as a demo model
do you need to have anything further to do with the ATF tax stampe or whatever???
What about buying an 80% kit????
My mind is a cogitating here.....
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$200 for the ATF issued stamp + the price of the suppressor + cost to engrave the suppressor.
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You don't engrave a suppressor you purchased from a manufacturer, only engrave if you make it - manufactured it.
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Sorry if I am about to be a wet blanket but I am holding off until AFTER the election has been decided. The ATF is making noise that they want more power and that is not good news for shooters. Bump stock>braced rifles>working towards?
It may be worth seeing who has control of the WH before you dump a $grand into something that could become illegal overnight on the whim of some powerful politician.
Interesting stuff here,
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A friend just got his stamp back . 4 months.
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So if you build your own-fill out a Form one and then keep it as a demo model
do you need to have anything further to do with the ATF tax stampe or whatever???
What about buying an 80% kit????
My mind is a cogitating here.....
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If you build it from scratch or a kit, you file a Form 1 and have to pay $200 for the tax stamp and have your personal information engraved.
If you buy one from a manufacturer, you file a Form 4 and pay the $200 for the tax stamp and your personal information does not need to be engraved.
This applies only to an individual or a trust that is building or buying a silencer.
The big manufacturers are in a different category and pay their tax with a SOT.
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Weren't they supposed to pass something in congress under some hearing protection/public health act that would allow these to be sold with out a stamp??? ANd BTW how much is the stamp??? And where do you get one from??
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I bought my suppressor about 2 years ago and this is my vague memory of the process. I bought a Silencer Co Spectre II .22 can off the internet, I think from Buds, for about $230. They sent it to my FFL that charged about $65 to do all the paperwork and store it until I get my stamp and approval papers. I also had to submit forms on the Silencershop Kiosk machine at my FFL (this looks similar to an ATM machine). The fee to use this machine was about 20 or 25 bucks and it takes your picture and fingerprints and saves a lot of time and hassle with the paper work, so I was told. The waiting period is next and it took about a year but we had a government shut down and they were only taking about 6 months before that. It was all well worth the wait I love shooting my Ruger 22/45 with the can and Bushnell red dot sight and it's very quiet. I recently took it to a hog hunting resort with my mens group from church and before we went hunting we spent time at the plinking range. The guys burned through a ton of my CCI standard velocity ammo but they had a blast!
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I bought and filed the paperwork in Feb. of this year and picked it up 7 months later.
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I would hold off on trying to get one for now.
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I was shooting at a range last year and some kid with a tacti-cool gun had one; said it took a year. He was all excited, as I would imagine, and he shot the gun without the suppressor, then he said something like,"Now listen to how quiet it is with THIS!" He attached the suppressor. Now he had a small audience of about ten of us. He shot the gun, and it was just about as loud as without it! We were nice, didn't say a word. I swear his eyes were tearing up, pretty red-faced, he was picked off, embarrassed, and was totally beside himself. I felt bad for him. He took it off, looked at it, put it back on and shot it. This time I put my ears on, but not directly over them correctly. It didn't really make any difference! He put his stuff in the gym bag and left. I would've been ticked, too; all that money and waiting for nothing! It's always my goal to mess with people, but this was NOT the time. I never did find out what the problem was. But, anyway, he waited a year.
Bummer, man!
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And that’s where Hollywood has fooled us all into thinking suppressors are so dangerous because they completely muffle the sound of a shot.
You cannot suppress the crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier as it leaves the muzzle. Now when you shoot slower than the speed of sound is where the difference is
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And that’s where Hollywood has fooled us all into thinking suppressors are so dangerous because they completely muffle the sound of a shot.
You cannot suppress the crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier as it leaves the muzzle. Now when you shoot slower than the speed of sound is where the difference is
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Exactly. I wish I would've asked what caliber, etc., this guy was shooting, just for my own knowledge. Also, at the time I didn't think suppressors worked like on TV with all guns, but I didn't know. I would think wherever he bought it they would've told him what to expect. Yes, he was waiting for a James Bond click click! These shops around here are all pretty good so Lord knows who he bought it through.
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Suppressor's and sound reduction.
I have a Gamtech for my 22 rifles and it also fits a few of my handguns. I think it a 1/2 28 thread. Most of the times that I have shot it I have used covered shooting positions, and it did not reduce the loudness very much at all. I was at the range this past Monday and I met a man there that had one on his 22 rifle. His gun made very little noise. He suggested to me that I should try shooting my rifle out in the open. What a difference the noise level was when the noise doesn't bounce off the roof. My rifle was as quiet as his. Please keep this in mind if your silencer is not as quiet as you think it should be. Please note that Gamtech is now owned by Smith & Wesson, and their operations have moved to Springfield, Mass.
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I would hold off on trying to get one for now.
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I’d argue the opposite. Get one now while you still can. The regulations certainly aren’t going to get any looser.
I was holding off on buying another one until the Hearing Protection Act passes, but that ship has sailed. If I didn’t own one already I’d be buying one.
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