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Old 11-27-2020, 11:17 AM
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Hi, With help from the forum we identified my pistol, I could not find any diagrams of the pistol, but I decided to clean it. I disassembled it down to the frame, cleaned and lubed the parts, reassembled it and now it will not work.

It seems like the trigger bar does not touch anything except for the magazine safety. I cannot figure out how the "L" spring is supposed to fit and if it is supposed to hold in the manual frame safety lever.
What is the assembly called in the "L" spring photo and what does it do?

It does not seem like the trigger has any spring tension and it does not have much travel.


I would like to get this thing working again.
Thanks,
John



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Old 11-29-2020, 12:24 PM
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Pic#3,,the part is the sear.

Rotate the part/image 90* counter clockwise and it'll appear as it is to sit
sit down into the frame with the back rounded edge up against the matching
rounded edge in the frame.

A simple straight round pin I believe holds it in position through the small hole in the frame just in front of the Safety hole in the frame.

I'm guessing the the small slanted edge that is now on the right side of the part(which will be on the top surface when rotated) is the sear itself.
It appears to be on a sliding separate part with the claw on the other end (slides up and down).
That would be the disconnector system allowing the sear to re-engage the striker after the shot and before the trigger has been allowed to return forward.

The L spring with one arm down into the hole in the pic, the other arm should power the sear. Perhaps sitting under a shelf on the side of the sliding sear to give it upwards spring tension.

The Safety would run thru the cutout to the rear of the part (rear once the part is rotated).
That needs spring detent pressure too,,and I'm not sure where that comes from looking at the pics.
Is there a ball-detent affixed to the safety?
Perhaps the L spring arm gives the Safety it's click over action.
Then we need to look else where for a sear spring (small coil?).

When the Sear block is in place correctly (and you probably have to remove the trigger to do that..)
The trigger can be replaced then and the trigger bar should sit in front of or somehow engaged with the sear bar. Someway it should engage the sear bar so when pulled the sear pivots downward to release the striker.

When the trigger releases the sear/striker, the trigger arm should click passed and the sear again rises to catch the striker.
The trigger is back at this point and releasing it to go forward, the trigger arm should pivot around the sear to get in front of it again and ready to release it again. That pivoting around the sear bar is the 'click' you hear in releasing the trigger and it resets.

The mag safety usually works by the trigger bar being pushed out of engagement with the sear altogether with the mag out of the pistol.

That's what I see from looking at the pics. Hope it helps.
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Hi,
Thanks for the post.
OK, the sear fits in the back of the frame, there are two pins that hold it in, one in the slide and one pin in front of the safety. The sear assembly contains a coil spring.

There is a sliding disconnector in the sear. The sear can be installed and removed while the trigger is in place, the trigger is retained by two pins.

The L wire spring is a mystery, it is too short to engage the sear, disconnector or safety, I have tried it facing the rear of the pistol and facing forward.
The safety does not seem to have a detent ball or spring unless it disappeared upon disassembly. I cannot figure out how it is retained in the pistol.
The disconnector while in the extended lower position, is visible in the frame notch above the trigger bar, but the trigger has very little travel and does not contact the disconnector.
Please let me know if this information give you any ideas.
Thanks,
John
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