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Old 12-03-2020, 10:42 PM
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Just wondering why the Henry 22LR pump is so much more expensive than the 22LR lever action. And why they don't make the pump in a round barrel rather than only the octagonal barrel.

For some reason I am drawn to the pump like a moth to a flame. I hunt with Marlin lever action 336C in 35 rem and have two other marlin levers in 30-30. (Technically they are my two daughters guns). So it would make more sense to have a marlin 39a lever or even the Henry lever.

So why do I want the pump so bad???

It seems the Henry’s are pretty pricey. I wonder are they worth the money?

I know and love the idea that it is made in USA. In fact they are made in my own home state.

I’m just trying to “justify” why I should consider buying the Henry pump over an older Marlin 39a.

And please don’t tell me to buy them both. I don’t need any more 22 rifles. So getting another is already a stretch beyond what I “need”.
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Old 12-03-2020, 11:47 PM
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I had one and didn't like it. It was way too large and clunky for a pump .22 IMO. I'd pay the extra and get a Marlin 39.
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Old 12-04-2020, 12:22 AM
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I had a Rossi 62 years ago. It was a copy of the Winchester 62. It was a good little pump .22.
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Old 12-04-2020, 12:27 AM
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I has one of the pumps and sold it too. I’m a big Henry fan and own two centerfire big boy carbines and a 22 carbine. My wife own a 22 carbine too.

Two reasons I sold it, the octagonal barrel was too heavy and caused it to be front heavy and I felt the balance was bad. Second the pump action took a very short stroke and what I felt was too stiff because of that. I have a feeling it is an adaptation of one of the lever guns and in my opinion just didn’t work.

I kept it for a couple of years and shot quite a bit with it but never wRmed up to I so I sold it. I wound up replacing it with a 1957 model 62a Winchester pump. In my opinion it’s the perfect 22 pump. It’s small, light, just the right pump stroke, very accurate and breaks down for cleaning easily. I found one in very nice condition and traded a couple of other 22’s and a little cash for it.

Around here Really nice 62a are a bit scarce. I think the asking price for one in this condition will set you back about $900-950. You might find them cheaper as I’m sure the price varies a lot.

If you’ve not, see if you can find someone that will let you shoot their lever gun. They’re fabulous to shoot. They’re as smooth as silk and accurate plus they put some nice walnut on them and the price is right. My wife’s and my carbines have the round barrel and they balance perfectly.

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Old 12-04-2020, 12:41 AM
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I had a Rossi 62 years ago. It was a copy of the Winchester 62. It was a good little pump .22.
I agree. I have a Rossi 62 (or...is it a Taurus? I forget!), and it's a great little gun. Every time I go shooting with several of my friends, they always ask me if I brought it along. If it were me, I'd look around for one...they can't be too expensive, I think it's worth a try.
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Old 12-04-2020, 12:47 AM
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Rossi is making a pump once again. I’ve seen a couple but not handled one. No idea how the made or performs.

I think the Rossi 62 is a copy of the Winchester 62 and everything I’ve heard about it is positive. Unfortunately it’s been out of production for a while.

Remington made several pump 22’s. I’m not up on them but I’ve not seen but a couple that were pretty well shot out.
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Old 12-04-2020, 07:55 AM
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My little Rossi 62 carbine has become my favorite 22. It is light, accurate, and a joy to shoot. Don't know if the new ones are as good though.
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Old 12-04-2020, 08:58 AM
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I love my Marlins, and I think everyone should own a model 39 lever action 22. They are heavy for caliber, but built to last. The weight is very well balanced to me, and accuracy is outstanding.

I was tempted to get a pump 45 colt some time back, I think maybe it was a Taurus(?), but a friend got one first, and handling it made me change my mind about wanting one. Maybe it just needed breaking in, but it was clunky and took more effort to chamber a round that a lever does.

My Henrys (a Big Boy Steel in .41 mag & a brass Big Boy Carbine in .45 colt) are well built, well balanced and accurate as well. I haven't handled their pump guns, but still have that little bit of "I want one" myself.

Let us know how you like it if you ever get your hands on one. :-)
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:10 AM
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If you really want an excellent pump action .22, you need to find a nice used Remington 572 Field Master. They have been making them since 1955 and the design of the action is based on their pump shotguns. I learned to shoot from my dad on one in the 1960's. I looked for several years for one in excellent condition and finally found one (1977 model) at a local auction. Can shoot .22 shorts, longs, and long rifle cartridges. Weight is about 5.5 lbs.

I also have a Marlin Golden Model 39A from 1958. It weighs about 1 lb more than the Remington. Both are fine rifles. I have four .22 rifles and the Remington Pump and the Marlin 39A are the most accurate of them.
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Old 12-04-2020, 10:11 AM
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Old 12-04-2020, 10:30 AM
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I couldn't agree more. After the medical problems I had this year I'm going on a buying spree as soon as I can walk again. Buy what you really want now and enjoy it.
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Old 12-04-2020, 05:46 PM
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I love my Marlins, and I think everyone should own a model 39 lever action 22. They are heavy for caliber, but built to last. The weight is very well balanced to me, and accuracy is outstanding.
That is for sure. I bought one off a buddy in the late 1970s. I put a Bushnell 4X scope on it. At 100 yards, off a bench I could put 5 Mini-Mags in a group you could cover with the bottom of a 6 oz. coffee cup.
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Old 12-04-2020, 05:55 PM
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As a kid I got to shoot a Remington tube feed .22 LR pump at summer camp. I'd buy the real thing. As a side benefit an old gun can always be justified as a collector's item. That way you do not have to "need" it. However, don't you "need" a .22 for each daughter?
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:03 PM
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I have more .22s that I'll admit to, but as far as pumps, other than a few shotguns the only pump .22s I own are a Savage and a Stevens. Both are antiques and both shoot "OK". I keep them as collectibles and shoot them only on occasion.

Given a choice for an afternoon on the range, I'll take My lever Henry any day. My first choice, however, would be my Winchester 69A bolt, but that's only because it was my Dad's and the first firearm I ever shot way back 60 or so years ago.
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Rhe local Cabelas last week had a remongton 572 22 pump. It appeard in good shape and was like $475. Which I thiught was very high price for an old 22.

They had a similar model in seminauto “speedmaster”. My dad has one barely ever shot and it is a jam-o-matic. My uncle also had one in good shale he got used and it too was a jam-o-matic as well. And it appears rhe pump is basically the same gun only with a manual action. So it does not inspire any confidence in me.

I love pump shotguns and lever and bolt rifles. So I am really torn on what to do. I also love Marlins.

All my kids are full grown. The marlin39a is big for I hope in a few more years to see some grandkids. But the henry lever or pump would be a better fit for youngsters I would think.
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I have a round barrel Henry pump H003, they were discontinued in the early 2000s but are out there.
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Old 12-04-2020, 10:50 PM
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Rhe local Cabelas last week had a remongton 572 22 pump. It appeard in good shape and was like $475. Which I thiught was very high price for an old 22.

They had a similar model in seminauto “speedmaster”. My dad has one barely ever shot and it is a jam-o-matic. My uncle also had one in good shale he got used and it too was a jam-o-matic as well. And it appears rhe pump is basically the same gun only with a manual action. So it does not inspire any confidence in me.

I love pump shotguns and lever and bolt rifles. So I am really torn on what to do. I also love Marlins.

All my kids are full grown. The marlin39a is big for I hope in a few more years to see some grandkids. But the henry lever or pump would be a better fit for youngsters I would think.
The $475 price is a little high. I was able to get mine at Auction for about $225. The few I have seen at gun shows are usually priced between $300 and $400. No problems with mine. Did remove the action and have it a good cleaning before shooting.

Both the Rem 572 and Marlin 39a are full size rifles and something smaller and lighter probably better suited for grankids.

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No pumps, but I am good for 22 rifles. Of course maybe there is room in the safe for one more it were cheap enough, Ruger is 10 not 12 22, I will need to fix that some year.
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The Marlin is and always will be a classic and better investment.
The Henry is neither.
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The $475 price is a little high. I was able to get mine at Auction for about $225. The few I have seen at gun shows are usually priced between $300 and $400. No problems with mine. Did remove the action and have it a good cleaning before shooting.

Both the Rem 572 and Marlin 39a are full size rifles and something smaller and lighter probably better suited for grankids.
The Marlin carbine is smaller.
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well all I can say is I really like my Henry 22 pump. I like it better than my Remington pump.
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I have a ton of Henry's but the only pump I have is there .22mag. I haven't even shot it yet. The pump action is short and chunky feeling. I suppose it has to be short, as it's not exactly whipping a long action cartridge around.

I'm just a fan of the Henry product - their lever guns of all calibers are working guns, with some being gorgeous along the way. The pump is kind of a one off for them.

Most Henry's are not an investment in money but, they are an investment in your time, your enjoyment and something to hand down with many memories if you wish. For someone who says they "don't hold the value compared to a Marlin/etc", based solely on a financial interest, they are correct. They also need to drive a Lincoln, as opposed to the Ford.

Just my opinion.
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I have a few Henry lever .22s. I wanted the pump round barrel version when they made it but they discontinued it before I decided. I handled the oct pump and it was so clunky I couldn't stand it.
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