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Will someone, not Alexia, tell me about the Buckmark
A friend is attempting to trade one of the newer, cheaper grade Browning Buckmarks to me on a nice revolver I have.
Are they any good? He didn't give me the model #, just a photo that I can't read the information from.
I kinda got a bad feeling just from his comment that it hasn't been fired and he wants to get rid of it.
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Buck mark.....for a nice revolver??? I don’t think so.
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I guess part of the answer lies in which of your guns is he Jones-ing for? With that being said, one of my very good gun buddies had a new Buckmark with a scope on it that he took to the range several months ago on an outdoor range trip.
I was very underwhelmed with it, as I had a chance to shoot a mag full through it. I don't remember it malfunctioning or anything like that, just didn't do a thing for me. I kept my thoughts to myself of course. FWIW, these are just my thoughts on the gun.
It sounds to me you really don't want to do this deal.
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I own a Buckmark of modern make. It does not hold a candle to my Ruger MkII. Got it because of the molded grip and my daughters smaller hands. After she learned the fundamentals on it (cheaply with 22LR) she moved on to other weapons. I still have it because I never sell weapons, but perhaps I should. Just FYI, before the entire meltdown of the gun industry and the panic buying it cost me $254 out the door from a big box and its one of their models with extras like a bull barrel, etc.. Hope that helps.
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I also had one and flipped it quickly. It was ok, but nothing to love and I have never missed it, unlike so many of the guns I have had.
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A club I belong to ran a program for new shooters, primarily kids. They started out with a mix of Rugers and Buckmarks. It did not take long before I saw all Rugers and no Buckmarks. I have owned Ruger MKs most of my life. I have shot several Buckmarks over the years. As someone has already stated, I cannot say they were unreliable, but at the same time very unremarkable and not as accurate for me as the Rugers. I have never once contemplated buying one, and honestly, I can't say that about too many guns.
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I have found that the older, pre-2000, models are better. I still have one made in the 1990s that is very nice. I bought, and later traded, a newer one--perfectly functional, but not as well built. Just be advised that if the one you're thinking of trading for is an older one, and if the firing pin ever breaks, you might be looking at buying an entire slide assembly to get it working again. Browning changed the design in 2000. The newer firing pin assemblies don't fit the older guns and older firing pins can he hard to find.
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There's nothing wrong with Buckmark pistols. Reliable, and accurate. Depending on the model, some are more accurate than others, but all are more than acceptably accurate and aren't too picky on the ammo they're fed. I wouldn't rate them any lower than any Ruger MK model. But, the make/model/condition of the firearms involved in the trade would have to play into the decision on whether or not it would be a fair trade or not. Depending on the model, Buckmarks run somewhere around $375-$450 new.
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I have an older Buckmark that is very accurate and reliable. I shot my qualifying score to be a NR Training Counselor with it about 4 yrs ago.
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I have one and it's very good. An older model, I guess; I've had it for 20 years or so. Got a suppressor on it. Very accurate and fun to shoot.
I've had Rugers but could never fall in love with them. Triggers sucked and took a MIT Engineer to take them apart. You can probably find videos on disassembly/reassembly on the internet, but I had mine pre-internet. Used, no factory brochures or manuals.
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I have never owned a Buckmark, but I've shot a few. Seem like very accurate and reliable pistols. Not my S&W Model 41 by any means, but they're also a quarter of the price.
I think having a basic training pistol like that is always a good thing—and for the beginners that are shooting it, they'll never know the difference between that and a better pistol like the 41. And, as one other person mentioned, the older Rugers took an engineering degree to get back together, so if the Buckmark is easier, then it may have a slight edge there.
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They're OK guns, but not really keeper material...I bought a bull barrel version a couple of weeks ago just because it was cheap and I knew it would make good tradebait at a gun show...I paid $250 for it and got $300 in trade against another Smith last weekend...It paid expenses for the day... ...Ben
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These Buck Marks are comparable to the Ruger MK series. Other than liking slab sides, knew these were desirable and bought them on sight. I say comparable owning several mk2s and threes
Having never considered or handled a newer one; have no idea how they function. May be like the new’ S W revolvers, greatly improved
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2002 model. Has had probably 7k rounds through it, been used for a Women On Target event more than once with 600 or more rounds run through it a day. Usually about midway through the event it gets a good spraydown of Gunscrubber and a quick oiling.
At home after the event a full teardown to the point of removing the barrel from the frame.
Only failures have been fail to extract when it gets extremely dirty and the original Rear Sight Mounting Base which was plastic broke one day during one of the WOT days. The replacement that Browning sold me was metal, an improvement except that I needed to contact Williams Gunsight as my Firesight would not mount to it. Another part (forgot what it was, been a few years ago) and all was well.
Only real complaint is with the slide, nothing to do with the effort required just a little hard to grip.
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Thanks a bunch, seems that the general opinion is that it's ok, but nothing to write home about. I have some MK II Rugers, and I think they are great. I can take them apart, put them back together, and don't even have a degree. :-)
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Thanks a bunch, seems that the general opinion is that it's ok, but nothing to write home about. I have some MK II Rugers, and I think they are great. I can take them apart, put them back together, and don't even have a degree. :-)
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Agree. I've been taking them apart and putting them back together since I was pretty much a kid. I have a 9yr old grandson now that gets them back together in pretty short order. I really never understood all the complaining about them. They are certainly not the easiest I have owned, and resemble nothing else I know of so it is a unique process.... but it really isn't hard.
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I've owned and used a BM for over 20 years. 4" bbl. It's a squirrel killer. Never had a problem with it..........Would I take one on a trade for "quality" revolver? Colt/Ruger/Smith? No. Charter/Taurus? Yes...In a heart beat.
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Own a newer Buckmark Contour. I did swap out the barrel for a threaded Tactical Solutions version.
That thing has eatin every ****** round I could throw into it and not missed a beat yet.
Been very reliable so far and fires dirty.
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I have one and I really love it. I also have a Ruger Mk IV and the Buckmark is a good bit more accurate. Once I put the red dot on it, it became EXTREMELY accurate. You can shoot the center out of a target all day at 50 feet, at least with mine. Never had it jam.
The Ruger is much more easy to take apart and clean. The Buckmark is a bit more complicated.
I only paid $450 for mine, so I would say that if your revolver is a nice one, he'd have to throw in some cash depending on how nice and what model.
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The factory sights on yours is different from mine....what else is different? They appear to be the same model..Butt??
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I have found that the older, pre-2000, models are better. I still have one made in the 1990s that is very nice. I bought, and later traded, a newer one--perfectly functional, but not as well built. Just be advised that if the one you're thinking of trading for is an older one, and if the firing pin ever breaks, you might be looking at buying an entire slide assembly to get it working again. Browning changed the design in 2000. The newer firing pin assemblies don't fit the older guns and older firing pins can he hard to find.
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I have a late '80s Buckmark that I am pretty fond of. I bought a whole bunch of spare parts on the cheap from Browning when they went to the new slide design. The one thing they didn't have was firing pins. There are at least 2 fabricators making firing pins now. I have never had an issue, but I bought a spare anyway.
I can't say anything about the newer ones, but mine has been a heck of a lot of pistol for the price-point.
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I can't think of a single one of my S&W revolvers that I would let go of for a Buckmark.
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The factory sights on yours is different from mine....what else is different? They appear to be the same model..Butt??
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Looks like the same front sight just mounted higher on mine. Can't tell about the rear sight. What year is yours?
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Looks like the same front sight just mounted higher on mine. Can't tell about the rear sight. What year is yours?
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Emmm..thinking 1998 or so?
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No, I would not trade a S&W revolver for a Buckmark. Around here a new Buckmark used to go for $350 before the latest craziness. That said I like the Buckmarks more than I ever did any of the Ruger's that I have owned. Maybe it is because the Grandfather of the Buckmark is the Browning Medalist.
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Like many handguns of recent manufacturer, today's Buckmarks aren't like the older ones. They can't be painted with a broad brush intimating all Buckmarks are inferior, by using today's examples as a gauge.
Would I trade one of my "older" S&W revolvers for a new Buckmark? No. But if it was one from the 80's.... I'd be more likely to give it some consideration, if didn't already have one.
I own a discontinued Buckmark "bullseye" model with a heavy fluted barrel from the mid-80's.
It has been reliable, and accuracy wise, can easily nip at the heels of my two M41's in x-ring accuracy, and... it's been more reliable in ammo ingestion than one of my M41's that's been such a finicky eater.
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I had a Buckmark that I foolishly traded off. Liked it much better that the two Rugers that I owned. Haven't replaced it since my son has one that I shoot on occasion. However I would not trade a S&W revolver for one, at least not without getting some cash on the deal.
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I would not trade a S&W revolver for a bucket of Buckmarks, he just wants to trade the BM and cash. I should have made that clear at the beginning.
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I happen to love the Buckmark and have two of them. An older 1989 Buckmark Plus 5.5" and a 2010 4" Camper Model. I really don't see any difference between the two. Both are absolutely outstanding pistols. Extremely accurate, totally reliable and will eat anything you care to put in them.
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I'm not Alexia...and I went the other way!
I had an old slab side mid-eighties Buckmark. I suppose an OK gun, especially for the younger ones of the family in training. My problem with it was that it came to me with only the one factory original magazine, which again was OK for training purposes with the kids, but time consuming for plinking sessions and I tried Triple K so called replacement mags but none worked at all. They would fail to hold open on last shot, and maybe the lip construction was different because they would not feed right either, no matter what factory ammo was used. Ended up dumping the extra Triple K mags on this Forum, after trading off the BMark.
Anyway, one day a guy I knew said he wanted to get rid of a old military revolver and was looking for a semi-auto 22. Did I want to trade? The revolver turned out to be a US Navy Victory. The trade went down, and I don't miss the Buckmark at all.
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I like the 2 that we have left. One belongs to my wife and I own the other one. I was exposed to the Buckmark in the early 90's and traded it off for another gun that I can't remember but i'm sure I enjoyed it. My suggestion is to try the Buckmark out and weight your decision.
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They're OK guns, but not really keeper material...I bought a bull barrel version a couple of weeks ago just because it was cheap and I knew it would make good tradebait at a gun show...I paid $250 for it and got $300 in trade against another Smith last weekend...It paid expenses for the day... ...Ben
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Now that's a good idea! Perhaps I can get something out of the one I have. Seriously, its just no where near as good as my Ruger MkII with its lovely trigger, tack driving accuracy, and serious reliability. But if I can get $300 trade value out of it toward something like a Model 19 or a 586......
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I have one and I really love it. I also have a Ruger Mk IV and the Buckmark is a good bit more accurate. Once I put the red dot on it, it became EXTREMELY accurate. You can shoot the center out of a target all day at 50 feet, at least with mine. Never had it jam.
The Ruger is much more easy to take apart and clean. The Buckmark is a bit more complicated.
I only paid $450 for mine, so I would say that if your revolver is a nice one, he'd have to throw in some cash depending on how nice and what model.
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My bride and I each have an older Buckmark Target with the full rail.
She used hers with a red dot for bullseye and it was reliable and accurate. Mine is a plinking fun gun--I used a Hi Std trophy with a red dot, Herret grips and a muzzle brake for bullseye and she made me nervous a few times with her Buckmark.
The only thing I didn't like was the slide recoil spring rubber buffer. They tended to deteriorate over time and were a hassle, but they're great guns.
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Now that's a good idea! Perhaps I can get something out of the one I have. Seriously, its just no where near as good as my Ruger MkII with its lovely trigger, tack driving accuracy, and serious reliability. But if I can get $300 trade value out of it toward something like a Model 19 or a 586......
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I've never worn out a Ruger .22; I did wear out a Buckmark. Took about 20 years and lots of rounds. The slide stop hole in the Buckmark frame egg shaped to the point it no longer worked.
Initially the trigger pull on a Buckmark is better than a typical Ruger. The Ruger trigger pull can be fixed with a little time and new parts.
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Will someone, not Alexia, tell me about the Buckmark
Have you tried Siri?
Just kidding.
I have a Buckmark I bought a few years ago for my son. We looked at a Ruger MK n and he wanted the Browning.
I’m not impressed. A lot of FTFs.
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I have a standard Buckmark model from 1995 with over 7,000 rounds thru it,nothing broke yet,only replaced the nylon recoil spring buffer once(the old originals didn't last long).Jack First Gun Parts and Striplin Custom Gunworks both make the old style firing pins.I got one from Striplin just in case I ever need one and it appears to be very well made.
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The Buckmark I owned spit lead on my grip hand.
I decided to sell it. I didn’t think my kids needed hot lead shavings on them. Especially while holding a firearm.
Papa
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