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I have mixed emotions reading these threads. I have been a Remington fan for 50 + years. Glad to say I knew Mike Walker, even if it was in his later days. Wear a Remington belt buckle a lot. But I also live 50 miles from Huntsville and knew a few of the locals that worked at Huntsville. I am very sad they have set up shop back in Illion. New York is continuing to be anti firearms. Alabama welcomed them with open arms. I wish them well, as I do not want to see the name end in the firearms production industry, but I see red flags flying for them to open back in New York, I fear other here are correct, still owned by the bean counters and we can all wish they would return to the days of quality of the Mike Walker days, but I fear this is just another wish and reality will show that the New York decision will once again end in disaster for the Remington name. I do not have good vibes this afternoon. I am just glad Mike is not around to see the end of the company he brought to the top of the manufacturing heap, Winchester made a huge mistake in 1963 and Mike Walker and crew brought Remington to the top in the 1970s and 1980, and she has come a long way to the bottom in the past 40 years. We will see, but I bet the 870 will just be cheap junk, one step above a Chinese copy.
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I hope that the Roundhill Group, LLC follows through on the way they are talking so far and are successful with bringing Remington back from the brink. According to what little I've read, they are "comprised of a group of individuals all of whom have years of experience in engineering, manufacturing, and marketing both in and outside of the firearms space. They are all life-long hunting advocates and staunch Remington brand loyalists." (quotes are from the article I read)
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02-07-2021, 06:23 PM
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Having trouble finding the website. Could you link it?
We are happy with my wife's RM 380. I'd like one for myself, so I could have a gun when I'm not carrying a gun....
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www.remarms.com has been intermittent today. Looks like everything they made prebankruptcy, is still there.
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I have no dog in this, but I think like most American gun owners, I'd like to see Remington, Colt, etc prosper.
If it were me, I'd start with a couple mid-range firearms. NOT budget- you don't want perception of your product to be junk, even if you have other lines. Every firearm you make for the next year or so will be viewed as "so, THIS is the new Remington..."
I'd say 870, a good semiauto shotgun, 1-2 nice, attractive rifles, and a 1911 handgun (with wood stocks). Everything should be 'classy', as you're trying to show you make 'nice' stuff.
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Jeez, I'm sensing a lot of disrespect for the Mossberg brand in some of these posts. I don't know that this disrespect is justified when discussing modern firearms as opposed to what Grandpa was shooting in the golden days of yesteryear.
The U.S. military thinks enough of Mossberg 500 series shotguns that it has made multiple purchases in the many thousands of units. The Mossberg shotguns have met and exceeded every military specification for durability and performance. Had Remington minded their business better its shotguns might be arming the Marines today rather than those made by Mossberg. And I say that as a long time fan of Remington.
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Remington has been intermittent today. Looks like everything they made prebankruptcy, is still there.
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Most but not all..........there are no .22 rimfire rifles shown on the new site. Guess the 552 and 572 rifles are "toast".
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Most but not all..........there are no .22 rimfire rifles shown on the new site. Guess the 552 and 572 rifles are "toast".
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Follow-up to my post above ^^^^: While there are no .22 rimfire rifles initially shown on the new Remington website "if" you use the search function on the site and put in "model 552 or model 572" it brings up those models and shows production is continuing. A search for "model 597" indicates it has been discontinued.
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Jeez, I'm sensing a lot of disrespect for the Mossberg brand in some of these posts. I don't know that this disrespect is justified when discussing modern firearms as opposed to what Grandpa was shooting in the golden days of yesteryear.
The U.S. military thinks enough of Mossberg 500 series shotguns that it has made multiple purchases in the many thousands of units. The Mossberg shotguns have met and exceeded every military specification for durability and performance. Had Remington minded their business better its shotguns might be arming the Marines today rather than those made by Mossberg. And I say that as a long time fan of Remington.
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Doesn't the government buy from the lowest bidder...... jest thought this thread needed a little stirring!!
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Doesn't the government buy from the lowest bidder...... jest thought this thread needed a little stirring!!
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It is my understanding that is why the Beretta 92 was selected over the Sig P226.
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It is my understanding that is why the Beretta 92 was selected over the Sig P226.
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I understood it was a quid pro quo. US gets to base nuke tipped cruise missiles in Italy (there we are, carrying the water for NATO, again). Italy gets US handgun contract. We coulda had the Glock 17, sigh.
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I understood it was a quid pro quo. US gets to base nuke tipped cruise missiles in Italy (there we are, carrying the water for NATO, again). Italy gets US handgun contract. We coulda had the Glock 17, sigh.
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No idea then.
I got my info from Gun Stories with Joe Montagna. Said that the Sig P226 was designed specifically for the US military and was in the running against the Beretta. Said the Sig was actually cheaper than the Beretta but that the total package, including replacement parts, maintenance etc was higher with the Sig over the Beretta and as usual, out Government goes with the lowest bidder.
But who knows. Is Beretta oned by the Italian Government company? I thought it was privately owned?
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Good luck to them.
With 10 mil made, you would think there would be more companies that
sell parts.
If I had a machine shop this is something I would consider.
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I ordered a 7600 carbine. We'll see if I ever get it.
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Jeez, I'm sensing a lot of disrespect for the Mossberg brand in some of these posts. I don't know that this disrespect is justified when discussing modern firearms as opposed to what Grandpa was shooting in the golden days of yesteryear.
The U.S. military thinks enough of Mossberg 500 series shotguns that it has made multiple purchases in the many thousands of units. The Mossberg shotguns have met and exceeded every military specification for durability and performance. Had Remington minded their business better its shotguns might be arming the Marines today rather than those made by Mossberg. And I say that as a long time fan of Remington.
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Only reason Mossberg got the bid was that they Were The Only Ones that submitted a bid..........As with military bids......You get only what the low bidder makes.
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I'd hire the Ilion people and pay for their moves to Alabama, close the Ilion plant, and burn it down.
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I understood it was a quid pro quo. US gets to base nuke tipped cruise missiles in Italy (there we are, carrying the water for NATO, again). Italy gets US handgun contract. We coulda had the Glock 17, sigh.
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I don't see why we couldn't have kept the M1911A1. The BS about "A 9mm will be easier for females to shoot!" was just that. I saw 1 female soldier in my last 4 years of service after the betrayal who could reach the trigger on an M9 to shoot the first round double action. All the other females and some males cooked the hammer from the get-go.
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I don't see why we couldn't have kept the M1911A1. The BS about "A 9mm will be easier for females to shoot!" was just that. I saw 1 female soldier in my last 4 years of service after the betrayal who could reach the trigger on an M9 to shoot the first round double action. All the other females and some males cooked the hammer from the get-go.
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I took my mom out to shoot several years ago. She isn't very strong, has never been. We bought her a 5 shot 38 revolver. I let her shoot my P14-45 with alloy frame. She shot it way better than the .38. It is a huge gun mind you especially for a woman.
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4 generations of this family uses REMINGTON
My 2 sons are the 4th generation of our family to hunt with REMINGTON shotguns and rifles.
They need to turn out 870 shotguns and 700 rifles and return to doing what they have done well for almost 200 years.
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I just contacted Remington about some warranty work and got this email:
"Due to the nature of the acquisition, RemArms LLC. is unable to service existing Remington firearms, honor any warranty or recall offered by the Remington Outdoors Company. As a show of our commitment to the Remington brand and its customers, once we become fully operational, we will do what we can to assist in resolving issues you may have with Remington product purchased through the Remington Outdoors Company.
We hope you appreciate the constraints that limit our ability to take care of firearms or other products made prior to the RemArms LLC acquisition of Remington firearms from the Remington Outdoors Company. In the future we will service product produced by RemArms, utilizing the highest standards available."
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For Remington to succeed they will need to take their legacy products and upgrade them. The 870 needs to be on par with the other pump modern pump shotguns of the world; lighter, smoother, better finish at the price point they currently at. They need to introduce an auto loading shotgun that is on par with Mossberg. The V3 was too expensive for a 3” chambered semi functional semi auto. The Versamax was a decent design but wasn’t going to command the same money as Browning, Franchi, Beretta, Benelli. Remington needs to take a serious look at other metal finishes as their recent products rusted just by looking at them. Hell half the parkerized guns I received had a good amount of surface rust when we got them directly from the factory.
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The V3 expensive and semi functional? I thought the V3 was priced under most automatic shotguns other than the Russian and Turkish guns and a better shotgun than the Mossberg autos.
I admit the parkerized guns had a reputation for rusting though.
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Heard they were suppose to start production of the 870 last month but not sure if they actually did because of labor-workforce issues. Would like to see the Wingmaster and 1100 produced.
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I am confident people will buy every 870 they can make, especially the Tac 14.
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I am very interested in the Tac 13, the semi auto version.
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I hope the new guy's philosophy puts quality above the bottom line instead of the other way around like Freedom Group. We all know how that worked out.
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I hope the new guy's philosophy puts quality above the bottom line instead of the other way around like Freedom Group. We all know how that worked out.
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I sure hope so. I was trying to shoot some .22 target shells today and half of them wouldn't go off.
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