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Old 02-04-2021, 09:33 AM
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According to the story in NRA/ Shooting Illustrated, Roundhill group (who purchased Rem Arms) has received their FFL and according to Richmond Italia ( roundhill partner) the company will resume production March 1st with 200 employees initially recalled.
The first firearm to be produced will be the Remington 870.
Hopefully this will be a new and successful restart of an American old line gun maker.

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Old 02-04-2021, 10:38 AM
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I wish them good luck, and, I'm glad to see the start of rehiring the old employees; possibly more can be hired back if company is successful. It can get real confusing (for me, anyway) who owns or controls what gun or ammo manufacturer/brand. You almost need one of those "family tree" type charts for a particular firearm's ownership; kinda like when you look up a certain music band, one of those year to year charts with who was playing in the band at a given time.
I hope the employees are hired back at competitive wages, also.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:42 AM
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I've already seen it repeated that this will make JM marked Remington 870's more valuable on the collector market.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:54 AM
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Thatís great news and I wish them luck.
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I hope the quality issues are resolved. I hate to see a once great American gun company go thru these changes.
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good luck Remington! we're pulling for you....Deer rifles and duck guns and all their M700,870,1187 varieties!
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I think they are smart restarting with a basic "meat and potatoes" product like the 870. If they can maintain good quality control it will help them get the ball rolling.
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I am confident people will buy every 870 they can make, especially the Tac 14.
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For Remington to succeed they will need to take their legacy products and upgrade them. The 870 needs to be on par with the other pump modern pump shotguns of the world; lighter, smoother, better finish at the price point they currently at. They need to introduce an auto loading shotgun that is on par with Mossberg. The V3 was too expensive for a 3” chambered semi functional semi auto. The Versamax was a decent design but wasn’t going to command the same money as Browning, Franchi, Beretta, Benelli. Remington needs to take a serious look at other metal finishes as their recent products rusted just by looking at them. Hell half the parkerized guns I received had a good amount of surface rust when we got them directly from the factory.
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I've already seen it repeated that this will make JM marked Remington 870's more valuable on the collector market.
What on earth is a ďJM marked REM 870Ē? JM marked Marlin rifles seem to bring higher prices than Remington made Marlins but why there would be a JM marked 870 is beyond me.
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Hold off on the guns and make some primers! Seriously, Vista Outdoors bought the ammo and accessories part of Remington so hopefully they will get things cranking soon...
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I've already seen it repeated that this will make JM marked Remington 870's more valuable on the collector market.
They need to hire JM back

Oh, wait, Ruger will be the ones hiring him since they bought the Marlin arm.

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Hold off on the guns and make some primers!
Different company now.

Since this company is only guns, maybe they will focus on guns and bring the quality back to where it once was.

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What on earth is a ďJM marked REM 870Ē? JM marked Marlin rifles seem to bring higher prices than Remington made Marlins but why there would be a JM marked 870 is beyond me.
Sorry, it was a joke. I'm sure the Marlin "JM purist" caught it.

I predict there come a time when REM marked Marlins will be the one's bringing the premium.
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For Remington to succeed they will need to take their legacy products and upgrade them. The 870 needs to be on par with the other pump modern pump shotguns of the world; lighter, smoother, better finish at the price point they currently at. They need to introduce an auto loading shotgun that is on par with Mossberg. The V3 was too expensive for a 3Ē chambered semi functional semi auto. The Versamax was a decent design but wasnít going to command the same money as Browning, Franchi, Beretta, Benelli. Remington needs to take a serious look at other metal finishes as their recent products rusted just by looking at them. Hell half the parkerized guns I received had a good amount of surface rust when we got them directly from the factory.
They need to make NOTHING on par with a Mossberg.
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They need to introduce an auto loading shotgun that is on par with Mossberg.
Way back when, Remington made pump shotguns on par with a Winchester 21:

Top:___ Winchester 21
Bottom: Remington 17

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The 1187 was great auto-loading shotgun for 479 bucks which is what local Walmarts were selling them for about a year ago.
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Reading elsewhere. It stated the 870 was the first gun going back into production.
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Reading elsewhere. It stated the 870 was the first gun going back into production.
Makes sense. Smoothbore a lot easier to work out the kinks/teething issues than rifled barrels.
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This is great News. Now, Remington just has to upgrade their machinery,
keep to the Basics (a nice Shotgun and a nice Rifle for now),
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Everyone here knows what Remington needs to do . Let’s support Roundhill and not criticize everything they do. The new owners just might be as smart as we are . And unlike us they put their money where their mouth is. Armchair quarterbacking is fun, tryin to turn a profit in this environment is serious business. Go Remington I’m pulling for you.
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I guess I'm something of a purist snob, biased towards old stuff that's more expensive to make and market. This is often a road to ruin for manufacturers as the market niche size must support the product volume or failure ensues. U.S. Firearms comes to mind. Like most large volume producers Remington has cheapened their methods and materials, the storied 870 being the most obvious victim. I have two in my possession, one bought in 1975 and the other in 2012. Both are serviceable, but are otherwise not comparable. Not to denigrate Mossberg fans, but the 2012 model is obviously competing in a lower weight classification with cheap stock material, finish and a plastic trigger assembly. My big idea for Remington (consulting service offered gratis) is to cover all the bases. Offer a low price point gun with commensurate materials, but aggressively market upgrades and accessories. This strategy pays big dividends for car makers. Remington and others too often leave high quality upgrades to the aftermarket when they have the tooling and expertise to make them cheaper than any outside vendor. Remember the days when S&W sold target triggers, hammers and stocks on blister packs in the retail outlets right alongside the guns? S&W also shoved a lot of private label junk down the retailers' throats, but they were happy to carry it to get the firearms. It worked. It's all about marketing strategy to meet the market.

Hooray! Out oldest American gunmaker is back.

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Certainly glad to hear being a fan and owner of 3 I bought 40 years back. Love to see the Wingmaster 870 put back in production with decent walnut and bluing like the originals. Hopefully they will succeed.
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My thinking is 180 degrees from everyone else. You can't compete against Mossberg for the cheap pump shotgun market. Their plant is in Eagle Pass Texas and the last time I checked they didn't have AC? I think they need to take a page from S&W and come out with an 870 classic. Nice wood, and great bluing focus on a quality product. What about a 1100 Classic- 26" improved cylinder, 28" modified. My oldest son had first dibs on either a citori or 1100 26" and he took the 1100 because he has no problem getting his limit of doves. The youngest son didn't complain because he got the citori.
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Reading elsewhere. It stated the 870 was the first gun going back into production.
Wonder if that includes the "Wingmaster"?

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Better include the Wingmaster! Had enough of the ugly budget lines that proved disastrous. The price could be challenging is right but those Express models looked pretty bad with hardwood and matte finish.
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Better include the Wingmaster! Had enough of the ugly budget lines that proved disastrous. The price could be challenging is right but those Express models looked pretty bad with hardwood and matte finish.
You must be an old timer like me. I doubt if shiny bluing and a wooden stock with luster will ever be popular again. If you want that, you can always find an older model for sale at a gun show. Most folks these days want bare bones, as long as the gun functions and holds up. Plastic and bead blasting are here to stay for better or worse!
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In the Dem/gazzete news paper they stated that the ammo plant south of little Rock has called back people and was starting production, they did not say if shotshell or rifle ammo. Jeff

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In the Dem/gazzete news paper they stated that the ammo plant south of little Rock has called back people and was starting production, they did not say if shotshell or rifle ammo. Jeff
Last week I saw Remington target shotshells at the local big box. I'd say it's new production since those have been out of stock for a while.
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Never thought I'd see the day when a Mossberg was considered to be better than a Remington, but here we are!
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Last week I saw Remington target shotshells at the local big box. I'd say it's new production since those have been out of stock for a while.
They need to make a run of .35 Remington. And everything else I guess. .35 is the only caliber I have zero rounds of.
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When I was 10 yo. Dad gave me a Winchester .410 shotgun. Ever since then, I have had nothing but Remington shotguns. I have had a lot of them. When I pickup a shotgun, or .22 rifle, my finger automatically moves to behind the trigger guard. Now it is an automatic reflex.

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When I was 10 yo. Dad gave me a Winchester .410 shotgun. Ever since then, I have had nothing but Remington shotguns. I have had a lot of them. When I pickup a shotgun, or .22 rifle, my finger automatically moves to behind the trigger guard. Now it is an automatic reflex.
I was gifted a Mossberg 500 8-shot 12ga yesterday. Its seven years old and still in wrapper. That tang safety is awkward to me.
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I was gifted a Mossberg 500 8-shot 12ga yesterday. Its seven years old and still in wrapper. That tang safety is awkward to me.
I sold my two Remington V3 shotguns about two weeks ago. I'd bought both brand new but was worried about my "lifetime" warranty being gone and very limited parts ability in the future.

I prefer the standard type safety as well, but plan on buying a Mossberg 500 in the next week or two for my new turkey gun. I know there a ton of 870 parts available and hopefully will be with new production, but feel a bit safer now with the Mossberg as far as factory repairs and parts.
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I sold my two Remington V3 shotguns about two weeks ago. I'd bought both brand new but was worried about my "lifetime" warranty being gone and very limited parts ability in the future.

I prefer the standard type safety as well, but plan on buying a Mossberg 500 in the next week or two for my new turkey gun. I know there a ton of 870 parts available and hopefully will be with new production, but feel a bit safer now with the Mossberg as far as factory repairs and parts.
I never understand this rational for a firearm that has been made for over 50 years and there are millions of them produced.

When Colt stopped manufacturing the Single Action Army, parts are still available.

When Winchester stopped manufacturing the model 1892, parts are still available for it.

When Springfield Armory stopped manufacturing the M1903, parts are still available for it.

When the government cancelled all manufacturing contracts for M1 carbines over 70 years ago, parts are still available.

Chevrolet stopped making 1957 Chevy's in, well, 1957, and parts are still available.

I kind of understand the concerns about warranty, but there will be parts available for 870's long after we're all dead.
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It appears that Remington has a new Website, remarms.

More Great News!....The Remington Model Seven Stainless Steel
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My thinking is 180 degrees from everyone else. You can't compete against Mossberg for the cheap pump shotgun market. Their plant is in Eagle Pass Texas and the last time I checked they didn't have AC? I think they need to take a page from S&W and come out with an 870 classic. Nice wood, and great bluing focus on a quality product. What about a 1100 Classic- 26" improved cylinder, 28" modified. My oldest son had first dibs on either a citori or 1100 26" and he took the 1100 because he has no problem getting his limit of doves. The youngest son didn't complain because he got the citori.
Agree.. But would be a better choice to make a Classic 11-87 for versatility on loads.
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12 and 20 Ga 870 classic, w/ Straight stock and 21" Bbl optional upgrades

12 Ga 11-87 classic

Model 700 classic wood and steel in Classic popular calibers (.243, 7mm/08, .308, .270, .280, 30/06, and 7mm Rem Magnum)

Even iron sights

Would gobble these up
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I never understand this rational for a firearm that has been made for over 50 years and there are millions of them produced.

When Colt stopped manufacturing the Single Action Army, parts are still available.

When Winchester stopped manufacturing the model 1892, parts are still available for it.

When Springfield Armory stopped manufacturing the M1903, parts are still available for it.

When the government cancelled all manufacturing contracts for M1 carbines over 70 years ago, parts are still available.

Chevrolet stopped making 1957 Chevy's in, well, 1957, and parts are still available.

I kind of understand the concerns about warranty, but there will be parts available for 870's long after we're all dead.
I guess I should have added the issue of their quality control going to **** as well. But I agree warranty issues are a bigger concern than parts for the 870.

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I'll buy the first of their guns that I find.
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I hope that they can keep going. 1816 to 2020......and beyond!

We are rooting for you Eliphalet.
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I am sure that this is a venture capital group. They are all about the bottom line. I do not want to seem overly pessimistic here but Remington has been working off of a name for 35 years. That was about the last time I bought a new Remington product of any kind. They screwed over their employees, clay target shooters, sportsmen, and gun clubs.

There is nothing that tells me there will be anything different coming out of them. The only winners in this whole debacle were Ruger and Marlin

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When I was 10 yo. Dad gave me a Winchester .410 shotgun. Ever since then, I have had nothing but Remington shotguns. I have had a lot of them. When I pickup a shotgun, or .22 rifle, my finger automatically moves to behind the trigger guard. Now it is an automatic reflex.
On my 870's and 11-87 I glued a button on the safety button to make it stick out more. That way I can have my finger in the trigger guard and push the safety with the second pad of my shooting finger.........Very fast for me.
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I donít know if Iíll buy the first Remington I see, but if they keep making 700s and 7s Iím sure to buy one sooner or later, particularly if they offer a .17 Fireball and/or .221 Fireball.

Iíve always been well served by their rifles and never had any complaints until that terrible new trigger came along. Since then, the trigger of every new Remington rifle Iíve bought has been replaced. Effectively raises the price of their rifle another $175 or so.

I suppose all the lawyers involved in that mess think theyíve done us a favor. They certainly did for the aftermarket trigger manufacturers. In any case, Iíll start saving my pennies now for another Model 700 or Model 7.
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Great. Maybe this version of "Remington" won't produce garbage and trash other previously awesome brands like Bushmaster, DPMS, Marlin, etc.

If you can't tell, I'm really not rooting for them......
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Great. Maybe this version of "Remington" won't produce garbage and trash other previously awesome brands like Bushmaster, DPMS, Marlin, etc.

If you can't tell, I'm really not rooting for them......
870 quality was already abysmal. Unless you forked over for the poliice model, they'd be dead right out of the box. Seen it with my own two eyes.
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My REM R1 1911 is the most accurate of several 1911s I have/had.
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It appears that Remington has a new Website, remarms.


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Having trouble finding the website. Could you link it?

We are happy with my wife's RM 380. I'd like one for myself, so I could have a gun when I'm not carrying a gun....

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