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Old 02-18-2021, 03:15 PM
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The backstory here is that I like 9mm revolvers for concealed carry purposes and I like K Frame sized revolvers for that purpose.

9mm S&W revolvers are hard to find and horribly expensive when you find them.

The SP101 in 9mm isn't bad, but it isn't great either.

I tried the Taurus 905 and broke it in a couple months of hard use - after sending it back to the factory once already. It also has really tight chambers and is basically limited to factory new ammo or new brass reloads, unless you want to test every round in the gun first.

I found a Ruger Speed Six in 9mm and it is most definitely durable enough but shoots low and slightly left. Worse the chambers are very finicky about accepting rounds, so reloads are no faster than with a speed loader.

I like 9mm as a good 9mm self defense load in a 3" revolver splits the difference between 38 Special and .357 Magnum, and *when properly done* makes loading with moon clips much faster than with a speed loader. It also lets me use a common self defense load for both revolvers and my 9mm pistols.

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I'm a shooter, not a collector so pretty much all my firearms work, or have to be able to work, for a living. That said I tend to be a bit of a pistol/revolver snob so I'm naturally hesitant to buy from certain companies - usually for good reason.

In the past I bought an RIA Baby Rock for not much more than $200, with commensurately low expectations and was pleasantly surprised it shot exceptionally well.

With that experience in mind, I took the time to look at the Czech made RIA AL9.0 revolver I found sitting in the display case of a local gun shop.


Finish wise it won't make a vintage S&W jealous. Overall it's well polished and blued, but there a few things that take away from an otherwise excellent finish. The side plate is plain, has a few faint tool marks and the side plates screws don't have the fit they do on a S&W. The laser etched import marks detract from the over all finish and the proof marks are not as neat as I'd like to see.



But that's all cosmetic. Functionally it's well done. The DA trigger pull is 12 pounds and the SA pull is4 pounds. Both are crisp and clean, better than most of the Rugers I own and in the same class as most of the S&Ws I own.

The major difference I noted is that while I can feel the engagement of both the hand and the bolt in my S&W and Ruger trigger pulls, you only get one "click" in the trigger pull with the AL 9.0. In other words, you can't "stage" the DA pull with any reliability at all. But that is seldom done anyway. If you have the time and it really matters, you just shoot SA anyway.

Loading is where it really excels. Both the 905 and the Speed Six needed fairly precise alignment of the rounds in the moon clip with the cylinder before they'd drop in.

The AL 9.0 isn't nearly that picky. With the recessed cylinder design and the slight bevel on the chambers the rounds will go in of thrown in the general vicinity of the cylinder - even with hollow points. Reloading it makes you feel like you are channeling Jerry Miculek.



I like shooting the current FBI Q course with a revolver but the last part of the 3rd course of fire at the 7 yard line:

Draw and fire 4 rounds, reload, fire 4 rounds. The entire drill must be completed within 8 seconds

has always kept me from shooting a clean score as I need about
a half second more to get that last shot off. But I think the AL 9.0 will load fast enough to get me that extra half second.

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It's K framed sized and seems to fit my K frame holsters just fine. The grips are practical and comfortable, which is good as I don't see many aftermarket options out there for it. Armscor does sell a larger checkered wood grip and a larger stippled wood grip for the AR-9 for $55.

Armscor only includes two moon clips which isn't very considerate, given that other brands usually come with five. However, they are well made and are high quality. You can get them for $7.99 each from Advanced Tactical but they only show 116 in stock.

TKS customs also makes them in 5 packs for $40, and while I've had a couple lemons in the last 20 I've bought for other revolvers, they are a good source for more moon clips. They'll replace one if it is defective.

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In short, at $500, I'm impressed with the overall quality and performance so far. I'll hopefully be just as impressed after I take it out and shoot it.
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Old 02-18-2021, 03:49 PM
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I have been interested in these since I first learned about them in a thread on this forum (I think) back in 2019. I was not in a position to buy when they were available from some of the internet vendors last year, nor have I seen one in person. I do see them on Gunbroker from time to time, and at best they are now $100 plus more than $500.00. Thanks for the review - I am still interested.
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"Armscor only includes two moon clips which isn't very considerate, given that other brands usually come with five."


Huh. I bought a 625. It came with two moon clips. I bought a 22-4. It came with two moon clips. I bought a 940. It came with two moon clips.


Who are these other people that normally give you five, because in my experience it certainly is not Smith & Wesson.
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That looks like something different, and I have a weakness for different, but maybe not in the current market.
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Great review!

I have been wondering about the stocks and size... This review checks some needed boxes. K Frame size that works in K frame holsters.
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Thanks, I appreciate the great review. We included 2 moon clips because that’s what other manufacturers were including with their revolvers. I still need to pick up one of these and a 310.
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"Armscor only includes two moon clips which isn't very considerate, given that other brands usually come with five."


Huh. I bought a 625. It came with two moon clips. I bought a 22-4. It came with two moon clips. I bought a 940. It came with two moon clips.


Who are these other people that normally give you five, because in my experience it certainly is not Smith & Wesson.
Taurus. Go figure. A low price point manufacturer includes a useful number of moon clips.
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Thanks, I appreciate the great review. We included 2 moon clips because thatís what other manufacturers were including with their revolvers. I still need to pick up one of these and a 310.
You should rethink the number you include. My Taurus 905 came with 5.

At best, two gives you a reload, and if you bend one all you have is a spare with no reload, pretty well defeating one of the main advantages of having moon clips.

Assuming a 100% markup on your $8 moon clips, including five would increase the price by $12. I suspect you'll lose fewer sales than you will now with two.

Prospective buyers don't want to have to worry about moon clip availability and that's one reasons I covered aftermarket availability. No one wants to buy a fairly uncommon 9mm revolver and then not have a sufficient/future source of spare moon clips.

Noting the small number available on the Advance Tactical website isn't all that reassuring to a prospective buyer, given that AT is the distributor - and an entity that may or may not continue to carry/support the product in the future.

To be honest I bought 10 moon clips from TKS Customs. They make them and have the cad file to make more of them, it's their business and I have a higher level of confidence they'll still be selling them 5-10 years down the road. So I want to support them.

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That skepticism isn't your fault, it's an artifact of other importers like CAI that import firearms like the CZ99 Precision/MP22 and then don't offer support (let alone long term support) in the form of things like spare magazines. CAI doesn't make anything. They import firearms, or parts kits that they assemble (often quite badly). Finding a magazine for an MP22 was impossible until Zastava changed their US importer and then it still took Zastava USA well over a year to start stocking things like spare magazines. Given that Remington Charles Daly, CAI and Zastava all imported and sold the Remiongton Model 5 / CZ 99 Precision / MP22 in the US it was annoying that no one sold spare magazines.

Which in short is why a reliable source of magazines or moon clips is a big part of the purchase decision. However in the store, the customer might now have the time or means to research availability and five moon clips is far more comforting than just two.
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