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This came home with me today. Cimarron "Custer" Model. Marked I Co. 7th Cavalry on the butt. Has the correct patent dates, inspector's marks and Orville W. Ainsworth's cartouche on the grips. .45 Colt (Long Colt) and now if I can find some affordable ammo or even brass to load my own.
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I have two copies of the old SAA. Like them both.
Yours is an eye catcher. Do you plan to use blackpowder or go with the standard load of Unique?
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That is a beauty. Nice to find one like this.
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If you shoot it you will love it. I have one marked "F" Company with all the markings that go with it. Mine is extremely accurate and has been 100% reliable. Notice the differences it has over the later issues of the Colt 1873.
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I doubt there is any "affordable" factory ammo, if you can even find any in stock.
Try ordering .45 brass direct from Starline. It might take a few weeks before it is available but they will come through.
That's how I got another 500 rounds of brass back in September.
This is my Cimarron 7th Cav, along with a 5 1/2" Cimarron in their "original" (antiqued) finish:
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This came home with me today. Cimarron "Custer" Model. Marked I Co. 7th Cavalry on the butt. Has the correct patent dates, inspector's marks and Orville W. Ainsworth's cartouche on the grips. .45 Colt (Long Colt) and now if I can find some affordable ammo or even brass to load my own.
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Nice gun!
Do you know the make on this one? Does it have the 4 click action or is it that new retractable firing pin action that Uberti has been putting in?
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Very nice revolver, glad to see that you intend to fire it.
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I love my 2 Ubertis, one of the most under rated gun made.
Mine say hi!
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Neat gun, and a pretty good effort to be historically correct.
I’d be interested in the maker too. I noticed that Cimarron is offering this in an Uberti-manufactured version on their website. I had one of these back in the 1990s, identical with Ainsworth cartouche and all, same box as yours, that was definitely not made by Uberti; I seem to remember Armi San Marco.
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I had two "Artillery" Models by Cimarron that I used for SASS, until I could afford a pair of Colt's with real ivory handles (legal, documented and just before the ban). Not much difference mechanically.
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Nice gun!
Do you know the make on this one? Does it have the 4 click action or is it that new retractable firing pin action that Uberti has been putting in?
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It's the 4 click so load one, skip one, load 4.
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I have two copies of the old SAA. Like them both.
Yours is an eye catcher. Do you lan to use blackpowder or go with the standard load of Unique?
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Kevin, I plan to just use Unique or something similar. Although I've been loading 45 ACP for years, this is my first 45 Colt and I haven't gone through my reloading books yet.
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Good choice. Must be a Pietta or an older Uberti then.
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Congratulations! I have the same make yet marked 10th Cavalry(Buffalo Soldiers) shoots wonderfully! Also have a non marked standard calvary model not marked-both Cimarron Ubertis'...have fun!
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As I understand it, Uberti makes them to Cimarron's specifications.
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Here is my Uberti Cavalry,(F CO 7 CAV) and my Ainsworth Colt. The Uberti is about a 1/4 pound heavier than the Colt and some of the markings aren't exact. But Uberti did a really good job of making a shootable Cavalry pistol without breaking the bank. The Colt was rebuilt by Dave Lanara and case colored by Doug Turnbull.
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Uberti still makes the 4 click lock-up, you just need to make sure you're not buying the other version. They make both now.
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Interesting, I didn't know that.
Do you happen to know which models have it? They don't seem to publish that information anywhere.
I've heard that they phased out the proper 4 click action and they are all the new action with the safety now.
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Really enjoy SAA and this one is a great shooter. As a financially poor history buff this is as close as I will get to a "Custer" SAA.
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Here is my Uberti Cavalry,(F CO 7 CAV) and my Ainsworth Colt. The Uberti is about a 1/4 pound heavier than the Uberti and some of the markings aren't exact. But Uberti did a really good job of making a shootable Cavalry pistol without breaking the bank. The Colt was rebuilt by Dave Lanara and case colored by Doug Turnbull. |
Those are nice!!!!!
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I love mine too. Here is it with its "family". 
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Kevin, I plan to just use Unique or something similar. Although I've been loading 45 ACP for years, this is my first 45 Colt and I haven't gone through my reloading books yet.
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I am a blackpowder fan in the 45 long Colt but have also used Unique. Without referring to my notes, I have no idea how much Unique I put in the case but do know that I used the 454424 or similar from Lee or NOE molds. Also the same charge under the SAECO 453, a 240 grain wadcutter bullet is an awesome round.
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When did the Army change designation from Company to Troop in a Cavalry Regiment?
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Good question. Or did they? The DoD website will tell you that the Air Cavalry still uses troop. Having read a lot of Western military history, I’ve wondered about that and never found a definite answer. Historians seem to use both terms interchangeably.
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Thanks, I tried to look it up and all I found was the camparison between the US and Europe
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"In the United States Army, in the cavalry branch, a troop is the equivalent unit to the infantry company, commanded by a captain and consisting of three or four platoons, and are called a troop within a Regiment. Companies were renamed troops in 1883." According to Wikipedia.
Now what about squadrons?
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Love my Gen. Custer Cavalry Model.
It's a great shooter. Don't hesitate to shoot yours.
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Try 6.5 to 7.5 grains of Unigue with the 255 grain swc bullet.
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Taylor's & Co. .32-20 WCF, 7 1/2" barrel
Taylor's & Co. .32-20 WCF, 4 3/4" barrel
I also have a Taylor's & Co. 1873 Cattleman .38-40 WCF with 4 3/4" barrel on order.
When funds are available, I will purchase a Cavalry Model. Midway shows they have them in stock.
Well, I decided the funds were available, so I ordered one from Midway. 
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Mine came from Midway which was one of the few places having them in stock. One of those .32-20 of yours would match up well with my 1904 dated 92 Winchester also in .32-20. I have a S&W Hand Ejector and a Ruger Blackhawk also in .32-20 to go with the Model 92.
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I did have a very nice Model 92, but I sold it to my Cousin. 
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Interesting, I didn't know that.
Do you happen to know which models have it? They don't seem to publish that information anywhere.
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Found the term once before, but can't find it now. However, they have the "old" model and the "new" model as referenced on their website and the old models are the 4 click and new models are the 3 click.
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Nice Cavalry model! A 7 1/2" inch SAA is on my 'list'... I'll have to take a look at Midway, especially knowing it's a 4 clicker.
When I was shopping for 4 3/4" guns, I had a heck of a time figuring out what was a 4 clicker and what had the new transfer bar... the variety among the SAA reps is pretty confusing. I finally settled on Cimmaron/Pietta "Pattons", after being able to fondle one in person and confirm it was a 4 clicker.
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I have to stop reading this forum. I did a search on the Cimarron General Custer model and up popped Mudways sit. I made the mistake of clicking on it and by golly they had one at nearly $100 off. I just couldn’t resist.
It arrived today and I’m impressed. Hopefully I’ll get to the range tomorrow for a few minutes and see how it shoots.
I collect vintage photographs and have for about fifty years. Twenty years ago I ran across what you might call a real jewel in a little junk shop. I wasn’t exactly sure who was in the photo and the owner didn’t have a foggy clue. Anyway I bought it and started doing research. It turns out, and I had it authenticated by an expert, that it’s an original Mathew Brady tintype of General George Armstrong Custer just after he receive his second star. I believe it was 1865 but may be wrong.
So this revolver will go quite well with the tintype. Please excuse the bad snapshot.
Not sure why the photo is horizontal. It’s vertical and I tried rotating it but no luck.
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I have to stop reading this forum. I did a search on the Cimarron General Custer model and up popped Mudways sit. I made the mistake of clicking on it and by golly they had one at nearly $100 off. I just couldn’t resist.
It arrived today and I’m impressed. Hopefully I’ll get to the range tomorrow for a few minutes and see how it shoots.
I collect vintage photographs and have for about fifty years. Twenty years ago I ran across what you might call a real jewel in a little junk shop. I wasn’t exactly sure who was in the photo and the owner didn’t have a foggy clue. Anyway I bought it and started doing research. It turns out, and I had it authenticated by an expert, that it’s an original Mathew Brady tintype of General George Armstrong Custer just after he receive his second star. I believe it was 1865 but may be wrong.
So this revolver will go quite well with the tintype. Please excuse the bad snapshot.
Not sure why the photo is horizontal. It’s vertical and I tried rotating it but no luck.
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