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Two rarish M1 Garand Bayonets
The M1942 16in is rare.
The shorter one I picked up recently. Even though it is in not the best shape, something makes it rare, what is it?
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The M1942 16in is rare.
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I have one of each, with others that have been armory cut-down from the longer ones in two styles. I also have one with a 16-inch black plastic blade that was used on the WWII wooden training rifles. The 1903 bayonets used during WWI with the wooden handles also fit, and I have a number of those. It's a little known fact that the U.S. Krag-Jorgensen bayonets will also fit, and the cadets at West Point used them for many years on Krags, '03s and M1s at the academy. They are fun to collect, and you have a couple of good examples!
This Bowie bayonet, a rare relic from the Krag days, will fit as well. Scarce as frog fur....
John
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PALADIN85020, That bowie bayonet is cool! - I've never seen one in person.
No bayonet collectors? No one sees or knows the significance if the shorter 10in bayo? Oh, well.
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I don't know bayonets but is U. C. Utica Cutlery?
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I don't know bayonets but is U. C. Utica Cutlery?
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Yes, it is.
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"The shorter one I picked up recently. Even though it is in not the best shape, something makes it rare, what is it?"
It looks to be a standard M1 bayonet, not a shortened 1905 (E1). Wood grips?
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It looks to be a standard M1 bayonet, not a shortened 1905 (E1). Wood grips?
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You're close, but not quite there.
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I did not realize a 16 inch 1942 is rare, I have one that I picked up in Tulsa around 15 years ago. Learn something new every day.
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My father had one of the 16"ers. Unfortunately, he had 3 sons who could find all sorts of use for a short sword. Eventually it disappeared. I disemboweled many a pirate/juniper tree in my day.
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I did not realize a 16 inch 1942 is rare, I have one that I picked up in Tulsa around 15 years ago. Learn something new every day.
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Nice!
They are rare and expensive. Look at the prices on gunbroker. Some of them are $400+
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What makes the shorter one rare is/are the grips. They were the first attempt at making synthetic grips. The problem is that they were/are highly sensitive to solvents and melted. As you can see, the grips on mine are melted and distorted. They were manufactured for about a year and most were recalled and replaced with black plastic grips. Who knows how many slipped by the recall a survived the all this time.
This is the first one I've seen in the wild in about 25 years and I jumped on it!
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My father had one of the 16"ers. Unfortunately, he had 3 sons who could find all sorts of use for a short sword. Eventually it disappeared. I disemboweled many a pirate/juniper tree in my day.
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I also had one of the 16" WWII bayonets to play with as a youth; bought at an Army-Navy surplus store (common in the early post-war years). I still have it, and did not realize it has become scarce now. I also remember picking up a WWI-era civilian gas mask at that store, and one of my buddies and I wore them at an 8th grade "sock hop" where we were in charge of checking in shoes as a gag. Today, those gas masks would be worth some coin. I suppose my mother threw it out when I left home.
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What makes the shorter one rare is/are the grips. They were the first attempt at making synthetic grips. The problem is that they were/are highly sensitive to solvents and melted. As you can see, the grips on mine are melted and distorted. They were manufactured for about a year and most were recalled and replaced with black plastic grips. Who knows how many slipped by the recall a survived the all this time.
This is the first one I've seen in the wild in about 25 years and I jumped on it!
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Thanks, actually when I wrote "Wood grips?" I was asking if they were made of wood. Cool story on the synthetic material.
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