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Old 04-16-2021, 06:58 AM
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Every time I think I have seen it all, I find out I am mistaken. A $350 paint ball/Pepper spray gun. Wouldn’t it be better and far cheaper to simply carry a can of pepper spray?
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It 'may' have a place where legal carry of firearms is not permitted. Not sure I would opt to have one in anything close to a "gun color", and as recent events in the news showed it would not be a good choice paired with a pistol, as it might be mistaken for one when a less-than-lethal option is desired.
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I think there would be more questions than answers with this thing. Some would involve durability (it would have to be fully charged when I needed it), proven effectiveness, would carrying it in a OWB holster attract unwanted attention and it might be considered by some an alternative to a firearm in a deadly encounter? Bean Bags Fired First in Arizona Shootout Killing Border Patrol Agent - ABC News

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20 yard capability. I can see a pellet not dispersing it's charge and someone's attack being accelerated as the anger escalates from being "shot". Reality is that I am not believing you can be sure that an attack is imminent until you are also in range of the irritant. I would rank it well behind pepper spray, air horn and a whistle.
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I view it as more of a "feel good" device for the owner that will attract more attention (and a lot of it potentially negative) than may be wanted by most people. Of course there are those folks that thrive on attention. I also rank it far behind a good can of pepper spray and a whistle.
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A couple of my associates carry a pepper ball gun. I've never seen them work more effectively than a good fog of pepper spray, and the last time we drug a fella' out of a closet, he was unphased by three pepper balls fired into a confined space. He was much more apprehensive of taking a bean bag round to the glute . . .
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I'm with Murphydog in that I think carrying something for self defense that looks like a handgun but isn't is likely to encourage a lethal reaction from anyone who feels targeted and is armed. I'd be worried about reactions from both bad guys and good guys, cops included, on the scene.
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If someone doesn't want a handgun, but wants something for SD/Deterrent, seems like a decent option.

330+ million Americans. I'm sure it fills the needs of many people. Not everyone wants a handgun, often due to a variety or reasons (fear of ND, do not want to take life under any circumstances, etc.).
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I don't want it, but if someone else does, they're welcome to it.
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a can of wasp/hornet spray and a straight razor
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I just bought one of those Umarex paintball guns, used, on Amazon for less than $70. It absolutely shreds a cardboard box filled with newspapers and I think it would be a good solution for urban pests--particularly feral chickens.

It's fun to shoot and I have a big stash of old C02 cartridges to use up so I'm gonna play with it this summer.

Some of the revolver models can be up-powered with new valves and the velocities can be pretty impressive, particularly with the "sabot-ed" steel ball rounds but I'm not going down that wormhole...yet. LOL

For serious self defense use? NO
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