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That was a jab! I think one shot groups count, when you use live targets, eg. groundhogs!

I could never consistently hit M&M's at 200 with the 54, but my record is 7 straight with my Savage Target 223!

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My Savage M11 with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9X scope at 100 yards. This the group that convinced me to buy it.
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Here are couple that haven't been mentioned but were great rifles for competition in their prime - BSA Internationals. I love the Martini action and even though I am nowhere near as good with an international rifle as I used to be, I still enjoy taking these out occasionally. The scoped rifle is a Mk I and the one with iron sights is a Mk II.

Beautiful rifles you have there. 😎
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Do they have a website? I tried a search but nothing.

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Here are some targets that maybe of interest. Two of the rifles have not been mentioned here yet, the Anschutz Match 64 and a Kimber Model 82G.
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Do they have a website? I tried a search but nothing.

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Unless they're started back up, I believe they went out of business a year or so ago.
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I traded up to this Springfield Model 1922AII from a Remington 513T when I was young and continuing to dabble in small bore competition.


Savage Model 1919 NRA. A dead end design that was soundly whipped by the Winchester Model 52 in the marketplace, but was an early effort to provide for a target grade .22 rifle for the budding interest in small bore match shooting just after World War I.
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Used to shoot on the university team in the UK back in the early 1960s. BSA International Mk 2 at 100 yds. Excellent training, though like LVSteve, I was used to SMLEs and 0.303 ammo in the High School's Army Cadet team in the early 1950s, (though LVS was much later than that!!). Dave_n
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Junior league stuff

Remington Model 34 NRA Target. This one now wears a tube magazine that better matches the rifle's finish condition. Quite accurate and the interestingly designed repeating action is fun to operate.



Winchester offerings

Model 57. Uncommonly found, this one's a sad looking example, but shoots better than most .22 rifles here. Found 40 years ago in pile of junk long guns that a pawn shop was throwing out. Both sons later used it in early small bore competition to occasionally beat out competitors with much better looking equipment.


Winchester Model 68, the seldom seen target variant of the ubiquitous Model 67. The ones found almost never have their front sight ramp and hood intact.


Model 69As, a target and a sporter with Unertl Condor 6X scope.
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I shared this with AJ and decided I would put this up on this thread.

My most prized rifle is my 1813 Anschutz, SN 001 with a USAMU barrel on it that I bought from Lones Wigger Sr.

I shot on his smallbore team in Carter Montana and with his coaching was able to shoot my first 100 in standing. Still have that target as he scored it, and signed it.

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I have a few:

Kimber 82G



Model 1922 M2



Anschutz 64 Match (in a master class prone stock)



Remington 541X

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This target rifle is ďold schoolĒ style but new production. Itís a Savage Mk II FVT in .22 LR. It comes with a globe front sight with a set of inserts and a Williams receiver sight with one aperture. When I bought it a couple of years ago I zeroed it at 30 yards on an indoor range with some old standard velocity ammo and Iím pretty happy with the groups. Iíve yet to shoot it extensively and test ammo brands at 50 yards. The Ďplasticí stock isnít attractive, but as for accuracy, itís not bad for an entry-level target rifle.
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This target rifle is ďold schoolĒ style but new production. Itís a Savage Mk II FVT in .22 LR. It comes with a globe front sight with a set of inserts and a Williams receiver sight with one aperture. When I bought it a couple of years ago I zeroed it at 30 yards on an indoor range with some old standard velocity ammo and Iím pretty happy with the groups. Iíve yet to shoot it extensively and test ammo brands at 50 yards. The Ďplasticí stock isnít attractive, but as for accuracy, itís not bad for an entry-level target rifle.
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for a starter rifle those do well. I had one about 50 or so rifles ago. A friend had one that shot very well, but he had replaced the trigger, stock and barrel to get it there. There is no real need to shoot ity-bity groups unless you are shooting incompetition. Just have fun with what you have!

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I love shooting old-school .22 target rifles.

My latest is a Remington 40-X.



I posted a thread about it late July at this link: Remington 40-X .22LR

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My latest is a Remington 40-X.



I posted a thread about it late July at this link: Remington 40-X .22LR

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I had a mid 60's Anschutz 54 in a prone stock. I would shoot at fun targets at 200 yards (on very calm days). I know 5 shot groups don't count, but it stayed around 1/2"! I used Eley Club and Club Extra (has EPS bullet)

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If I could shoot 1/2" groups at 200 yds I would win a little money in somebody's competition.

Here's my latest 200 yard group out of my Remington 40-X. Ten shots, with an extreme spread of 2.275". There was only a slight puff of breeze.






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I have two specific .22 target rifles, examples of which I have personally used in high school and college ROTC competition.

The first is a Winchester Model 75.



And the second is this Springfield Model 1922, converted to M2 specs.



Both delivered the goods for me when I did my part!

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Good eye!

For those readers who are not of our generation (geezers), here's a scan from the 1969 Shooters Bible showing some of the Redfield receiver sights and the Sure-X Disc.



If you click the image you will get it in full size.

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P.S. A close-up crop added.



Click it!

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For those readers who are not of our generation (geezers), here's a scan from the 1969 Shooters Bible showing some of the Redfield receiver sights and the Sure-X Disc.



If you click the image you will get it in full size.

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Thank you. I have two Sure-X Discs mounted on Redfield International Mk 8's. Should we start a thread on old school iron sights and tube sights?

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I also have a Mk 8 I use sometimes. Bought it at OGCA from an old guy who deals in irons. Paid though the nose for it! I tried to negotiate with him from his ask price. He said, "The discount is already figured in." I paid his price.

You can't find good Mk 8 Redfields very often.

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I also use a Merit adjustable iris rear sight. It's great.

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I also have a Mk 8 I use sometimes. Bought it at OGCA from an old guy who deals in irons. Paid though the nose for it! I tried to negotiate with him from his ask price. He said, "The discount is already figured in." I paid his price.

You can't find good Mk 8 Redfields very often.

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I got one of the MK 8's from CMP for $135, had no idea what it was until I looked it up. The other I got off an auction on Ebay. The seller only wrote about the MK 8 sight and never mentioned the Sure-X that was on it. Got the set up for $350.

The first 52 Pre-A I had had a Merit #1 and was good sight.

Do you had the old scopes and sights catalog?

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I have Old Gunsights & Rifle Scopes, by Nick Stroebel. That may be the one you are talking about.

It is a very useful reference.

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Just found this in an early 1960's American Rifleman.
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Forindooruseonly, thatís 2 sweet Martinis.

Well, had the Al Freeland Super Target .22 Rifle out and shot my first sub 1/4Ē group Monday at 50 yards. Itís the top circled group. The SK Standard and CCI Standard velocity shot great. Probably used 150 rounds having fun, Larry
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This is the most enjoyable thread I have seen in a very long time. Thanks to all that posted.
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I have a Mossberg Model 46. It's like the 35 with a tubular magazine.
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I have a Mossberg Model 46. It's like the 35 with a tubular magazine.
Mossberg's are good guns. I had quite a few. But when I started to try to stretch them out to 50 yards I found their weakness. Switched to the big heavy barrels and sold the Mossbergs.
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I had one of those with a Vaver Rear Sight. Good gun. Was called "A poor mans 52" back in the 30's-40's.
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What ever happened to the blue steel and walnut .22's? Most of the modern stuff might shoot well, but they leave me cold.

My old Mossberg shown below is a very accurate rifle, with a trigger that always brings a smile.

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A guy before me snatched one of those up right in front of me at the gun store but brought it back the next day. This time, noone beat me to it. Love that rifle!
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I have a Savage 416 U.S. PROPERTY trainer that was used at the local rifle club back in the 60's. My dad was the instructor and the club actually started the club up over the bank, a second floor. I remember shooting them at the National Guard Armory, big heavy rifles for a young kid. This was in dads closest, and when I tore it down this spring I found his name under the butt plate, like all his guns. Don't know a lot about them.

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Looks like one of the 144 series.
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I have a Savage 416 U.S. PROPERTY trainer that was used at the local rifle club back in the 60's. My dad was the instructor and the club actually started the club up over the bank, a second floor. I remember shooting them at the National Guard Armory, big heavy rifles for a young kid. This was in dads closest, and when I tore it down this spring I found his name under the butt plate, like all his guns. Don't know a lot about them.

Any info would be great.
The 416's are good rifles. A friend had two, but sold the second to another friend when he figured out someone had rechambered it to .22 Magnum.
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More years ago than I care to recall a gunsmith friend went into his stash and put together a Winchester Model 75 from parts salvaged when a local club in Eastern VA had gone defunct. I got as far as having the fore end milled for a Freeland Rail, but never quite got around to finishing it up. I never really shot it as much as I had hoped I would and it now languishes in my safe waiting for me to have pity and take it out to play.

About 10 years ago I had the good fortune to go to the CMP Store at Camp Perry and pick out a Kimber 82G. It has been fired very little in the intervening time, but I did get around to fitting it with a Lyman 20x Super TargetSpot I had left over from my Schuetzen days.

For the real old timers here, I am in the process of resurrecting a Ballard position rifle as would have been used in the Thirties through the early Fifties. Single shots are my true love!

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