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Old 09-08-2021, 06:34 AM
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In the Netherlands old, clasic and antique guns are still around. But i do know when i gundealer gets a model Smith and Wesson model 19 in, he converted the revolver to blanc firing for dogtraining. Nobody want to buy it. It is al 686 now. At the moment i do collect also old blackpowder replica revolvers. Just bought a Euroarms Rodger and Spencer and a Santa Barbera Remington model 1858. A friend ask me why? It is simpel. The revolvers ar not in production anymore. If I do not safe them they dissapaer at the scrapheap and into the bonnfire.
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Old 09-08-2021, 09:14 AM
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I only have two guns....

Got this one when I was 12:


and this one:



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Old 09-08-2021, 09:34 AM
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I have a number of “evil black rifles” reviled as assault weapons by the media, including several built from parts kits from surplus military rifles built on civilian semi auto receivers.

Before importation of most semi auto surplus military rifles was banned, I and tens of thousands of others like me others took literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of them off the global arms market and secured them safely in gun safes to be shot only occasionally under safe range conditions for sporting purposes.

In the big picture, it was a lucrative market for arms dealers who otherwise would have sold them in conflict zones.
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Old 09-08-2021, 11:57 AM
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I consider myself as a average American as far as my economic standing our household income is around $60,000. We have 3 paid of vehicles our house has been paid off for around 20 years we have been married for almost 35, and I am 54. I did not start accumulating firearms until the house was paid for. At present I have around 60 with only 3 being "modern" a AR15, Ruger LCP, and Springfield xd-9 the rest are 40 years old or older. I have sold quite a few throughout the years when they no longer suited me. I know more than a few guys who NEVER sell a gun. I suspect in the coming few years lots of nice guns are going to come on the market as aging firearms collectors sell off collections or at their passing their kids do. Most of the younger crowd could care less about the older firearms, and are only interested in the latest greatest plastic firearms. As others have stated the older stuff is still around in gun safes, and closets across America.
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Old 09-08-2021, 12:16 PM
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I've always loved to shoot! Some of my most memorable outings included a brick or two of .22 ammo, which very rarely came back home with me. Now that I'm older and my eyes aren't what they used to be and the places to go shoot have dwindled, I'm perfectly content taking my favorites out of the safe, oiling them up, and reminescing on earlier times before for hiding them away again.
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Old 09-08-2021, 12:58 PM
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When I become unable to safely shoot, the only firearms I will retain will be family heirlooms from past generations for my grandson.
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Old 09-08-2021, 01:27 PM
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When I become unable to safely shoot, the only firearms I will retain will be family heirlooms from past generations for my grandson.
I am lucky that I have four grandchildren and they can divvy up the spoils when I go.
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I consider myself as a average American as far as my economic standing our household income is around $60,000. We have 3 paid of vehicles our house has been paid off for around 20 years we have been married for almost 35, and I am 54. I did not start accumulating firearms until the house was paid for. At present I have around 60 with only 3 being "modern" a AR15, Ruger LCP, and Springfield xd-9 the rest are 40 years old or older. I have sold quite a few throughout the years when they no longer suited me. I know more than a few guys who NEVER sell a gun. I suspect in the coming few years lots of nice guns are going to come on the market as aging firearms collectors sell off collections or at their passing their kids do. Most of the younger crowd could care less about the older firearms, and are only interested in the latest greatest plastic firearms. As others have stated the older stuff is still around in gun safes, and closets across America.

We see a lot of very nice guns come into the gun shop here. Some are older folks selling their things, some are families selling an individuals who has passed firearms (can't bring them back to where they are from) and just estates the shop owner buys. We think when a lot of folks move to Florida they sell the lesser guns at home and bring the nicer stuff with them.
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Now, I feel guilty. I need to go to a big gun show, and stimulate the economy and my collection.
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I consider myself as a average American as far as my economic standing our household income is around $60,000. We have 3 paid of vehicles our house has been paid off for around 20 years we have been married for almost 35, and I am 54. I did not start accumulating firearms until the house was paid for. At present I have around 60 with only 3 being "modern" a AR15, Ruger LCP, and Springfield xd-9 the rest are 40 years old or older. I have sold quite a few throughout the years when they no longer suited me. I know more than a few guys who NEVER sell a gun. I suspect in the coming few years lots of nice guns are going to come on the market as aging firearms collectors sell off collections or at their passing their kids do. Most of the younger crowd could care less about the older firearms, and are only interested in the latest greatest plastic firearms. As others have stated the older stuff is still around in gun safes, and closets across America.
My situation is similar. I owned a fairly small number of guns until I ruched a point in my life and career where I had the discretionary income to buy guns that struck my fancy.

They all fall in two categories:

- practical guns that I carry and or shoot frequently; and

- interesting or collector guns that I shoot a lot less often.

The latter also serve as an investment. Many of those have doubled in value in under 10 years. Barring an outright ban of them preventing their transfer to others, they provide a decent and appreciating addition to the retirement funds.

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You are correct about nice guns coming on the market in the future. That’s already occurred with collectible Winchester lever guns. They’ve shown up in droves and at very attractive prices as there are not nearly enough up and coming Winchester lever gun collectors to replace the collectors that are dying off.

SAS/CAS shooting should have made a bigger difference but idiotic rules choices such as overly picky period correct dress and conflicting (from a realism perspective) ridiculously low power factor thresholds made the sport unappealing to a large segment of the potential competitors and interested shooters.

Absent a resurgence in popular movies and TV shows that make lever guns more popular the collector interest in older lever guns will probably never quite recover.

A possible exception would be if semi auto rifles are banned. Lever guns as the original “Tombstone tactical” option would become much more popular and that general boost in lever gun popularity would eventually increase interest in older collectible lever guns.
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Yet, firearms are "durable goods". Most will last several lifetimes, or more if taken reasonable care of.
I bought this, an S&W Model 34, back in the 70's. I HAVE SHOT THE PEEWADDEN OUT OF IT. I can't begin to count the number of bricks, bulk packs, and mere boxes of 22 ammo this thing has digested.
And it still shoots like new.
Guns are made to be shot.
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My situation is similar. I owned a fairly small number of guns until I ruched a point in my life and career where I had the discretionary income to buy guns that struck my fancy.

They all fall in two categories:

- practical guns that I carry and or shoot frequently; and

- interesting or collector guns that I shoot a lot less often.
It's certainly nice to be in that position. And it certainly would be awful to think that your "interesting or collector guns" would end up in the smelter after you're gone. How many times have you heard about a widow taking her late husband's guns to the police station to be destroyed because she didn't want them in the house anymore?

I have intereacted with two people who were part of this type of scenario. It is noteworthy the difference in the outcomes.

One was with a former Baltimore cop who now is a salesman at a gun shop around here. He told me about how a widow brought her late husband's guns to the station and demanded that the guns be destroyed. The late husband had quality pieces, and the former cop tried hard to dissuade the widow from having the guns destroyed, but she was adamant. And there was nothing he could do about it. One of the guns was a vintage Colt Single Action Army.

The other case was related to me by the salesman in a gun shop in Reading, PA. The widow of a competitive target shooter kept his guns for 20 years after he died. Finally she decided she didn't want them around anymore and took them to the local police to have the guns destroyed. That police agency was able to convince the widow that the guns had value and to take them to a gun shop and sell them. Happily she took their advice and as a result I am now the owner of his .22 High Standard Supermatic with the Herrett grips that don't want to let go of your hand.

The upshot is that you have to take charge to make sure what you've collected won't end up in the smelter after you're gone. It is going to take time and effort to do it. Take the time to sit down and think about what you have and who you want to get it, and write it down so that you have the basis for creating a valid will. Having everything all written out will save time for if you have to engage an attorney for planning your estate. As a fiduciary, your Executor is required to carry out your wishes. Acting now will help to make sure that what you've acquired will get a good home after you've gone.
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