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Old 03-15-2009, 01:42 PM
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I got back my Winchester Model 12 that I picked up a while back that had an awful polychoke on the barrel and had been sitting on a rack at the local gun store for months. So I had my local gunsmith cut the barrel at 20 inches and add a bead. I took it to the range today with some Remington 2 3/4 OO buck. The target here was shot from 12 yards away. The whole in the top was from the wad skidding sideways through the target. The recoil from this gun with just a regular buttplate is actually better than from my Remington 870 tactical that had a thick pad on it. It was very pleasant to shoot and it cycled beautifully. All 5 shots were in rapid succession.

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I got back my Winchester Model 12 that I picked up a while back that had an awful polychoke on the barrel and had been sitting on a rack at the local gun store for months. So I had my local gunsmith cut the barrel at 20 inches and add a bead. I took it to the range today with some Remington 2 3/4 OO buck. The target here was shot from 12 yards away. The whole in the top was from the wad skidding sideways through the target. The recoil from this gun with just a regular buttplate is actually better than from my Remington 870 tactical that had a thick pad on it. It was very pleasant to shoot and it cycled beautifully. All 5 shots were in rapid succession.

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Old 03-15-2009, 01:51 PM
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Nice! Looks like any burglary attempts at the Lapell place is gonna result in a lot of flower bringin and church hymn singin...
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:28 PM
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Darn it, David! He was just turning his life around!
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:30 PM
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That poor target was abused as a child and is just misunderstood!
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:37 PM
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Just be sure the BG is not standing in front of your big screen TV. Nice to here about your model 12. Bruce
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:39 PM
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I love Winchester Model 12 shotguns. It is good to read that yours is rehabbed and back on active duty.
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:43 PM
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A short Model 12... YEA BABY!
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:14 PM
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Nice gun!All steel & wood and no nonsense.I like Model 12's and have the one Dad gave me.
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Winchester Model 12's are always appropriate.

Nice shotgun. It's good to see it featured here.
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Very, very handsome.
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:34 PM
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David;
I believe you have caught the essence of the dome defense gun. Any burglar would be proud to be shot by that gun. Hemingway had a model 12 as did The Duke, you are in great company.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:37 PM
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Dammit!
Now there's something else I've got to buy!

Nice shotgun by the way.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:11 PM
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What is the white-colored, crystalline material behind your target --- some sort of Caribbean beach sand such as found at expensive resorts?
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:20 PM
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Very nice!

I have my Grandfathers, a 30” full choke 1950’s vintage gun.
I’m kicking myself now for passing up some polychoke guns and doing the same thing you’ve done. I’ll have to see about fixing that.


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...great looking Model 12...I love the looks of short barrel pumps with wood furniture...kinda old school I guess...
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:57 PM
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Hey David; that's a BUTE! I admire your courage in cutting it down to a workable length.

So, tell me David; what kind of Nuclear shells are you shooting that put about 40 00Buck holes on target. That was just one shell; right?

Yeah, right!
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:23 AM
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But ... but ... where is the mag tube extension and the folding black plastic tactical stock?

Don't forget all the lasers and tasers ...
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:51 AM
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Nice pattern out of a great classic Winchester,by far one of the best if not the best shotguns made...Mike
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:10 AM
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Oh hell yes, great job and a fine shotgun.
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David, now you have a lifetime gun. I never understood why people got so excited about the new "tacticool" black shotguns when there were so many old classic model 12s available. Seven shots with a steel and walnut proven platform, why try to improve on perfection. It looks good.

Here's mine. It started out as a short barrel and someone sporterized it by adding a weaver choke. A WWII riot, that I got in 1954 from Mongomery Wards fo $55.00.

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:11 AM
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Very nice weapon you got.

Here is my gun story about the "one that got away" Saw a nice 1897 at my gun shop for a great price. I noticed the barrel was enlarged at the end of the magazine so I passeded on it. A week later I get my Cheaper than Dirt catalogue and guess what. Had 1897 riot barrels for $56. Called the dealer and gun was sold.

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:55 AM
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I got the idea for this little project after seeing a couple of guys I work with spending major dollars on their "tactical" 12 gauge pumps. I admit I bought a tactical 870 Remington, but relaized that I didn't need all the doo-dads and bells and whistles. This is a house gun, I am not on the SWAT team, so I didn't need the fancy stock and forearm and all that. If that is your choice, more power to you. I know where there are 2 other model 12's right now, both are pretty cheap, but they have their original barrels intact, (no polyhokes like mine had) but for someone in the know, what a house gun. I also know where there are a couple of Ithaca 37's, Stevens, older 870 Remingtons, etc. All very cheap, and all would make great house guns just by cropping the barrel. Why spend all that money?
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:38 AM
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I know where there are 2 other model 12's right now, both are pretty cheap, I also know where there are a couple of Ithaca 37's, Stevens, older 870 Remingtons, etc. All very cheap, and all would make great house guns just by cropping the barrel.
Really...well..do tell
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