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Saw the new Ruger LCR today at Shooter's, a very light handgun. It seemed well put together had a concealed hammer no Crimson trace grips. they were asking $459.95 + tax.
I don't know if you would want to fire this alot bcause of the wieght but it seemed ok for a carry gun.
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I posted this response in the Concealed Carry Forum:
My wife has been carrying a Ruger LCP .380 for the past 9 months or so. She shoots it well, but sometimes has trouble with cycling the slide and doesn't like the long trigger pull. She finally said she would like to go look at revolvers, something like my S&W 642, so last Saturday we went to our local gun store. She looked at the S&W 642, 638, the Taurus Judge, and the Ruger LCR. She left the store with the LCR and a smile on her face! I must say I am impressed with the trigger pull, and the gun as a whole. As soon as we returned home she wanted to go put a few rounds downrange. Her first 5 rounds were almost center target at 10 yards using standard .38 ammo. I shot about 15 rounds through the gun and the recoil seemed lighter than my 642 and the trigger is a lot smoother. The stock grips are really comfortable and easy to get a quick grip on the gun. All of my holsters for my 642 fit the LCR, and that is a good thing because it will save me money on buying new holsters!
We went shooting again today and she did better than the first time out. She had many shots center target going into the same hole. I am lucky to do that using a CT laser.
I must say that if you are in the market for a new revolver, give the Ruger LCR a serious look-see. It's really a nice shooting gun. She paid just a tad over 500 out the door.
The one thing we discovered after reading the Owner's Manual is that the LCR does have an Internal Lock. It is a completely different design from the S&W J Frames, plus the grip has to be removed in order to lock/unlock the gun. I don't remember reading anything about a lock on Ruger's web site or news release about the LCR, but it's there just the same. I don't think they offer it in a No Lock configuration.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/e...3904/m/766109701/p/1
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05-28-2009, 09:38 AM
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I love the grip. Seems to me shooting 38+P would be to bad at all. The trigger is well...odd. I guess I am use to indexing the DA only trigger on my 640-1. The LCR trigger seems sloppy and rough to me. Very jerky and hard to figure out the take up.
The Jury is still out for me but I would love to shoot one.
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05-28-2009, 09:42 AM
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I bought a Ruger LCR and I have several S&W J frames. I agree with everything Lee in Quartzsite states. I have been shooting 158 grain round nose bullets and so far have fired 200 rounds . The trigger pull seems longer than S&W but smooth and does not feel like spring is stacking. The grips frame is smaller than the S&W which allows for more rubber in grip. I thnk the grip absorbs more recoil.
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05-28-2009, 02:39 PM
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I liked the weight of the LCR I handled this afternoon.
Did not like the trigger at all.
There may be something wrong with that particular gun. It seemed to fail to lock the cylinder/go into battery, occasionally.
It was also long and odd-feeling compared to a Smith J-frame trigger.
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05-28-2009, 04:32 PM
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I saw the new Ruger LCR at a store the other day. That has got to be the most butt ugly gun I have ever seen! The gun looks like it would have a retail price under 150 bucks but it is more expensive than a Smith 442/642. I can not think of any reason why I would buy one no matter how accurate it is or how nice the trigger is, and if you have one and are happy with it and/or think it looks pretty, I'm glad for you, but to me that is one homely gun!
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05-28-2009, 05:07 PM
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Did anyone notice the cylinder/extractor design is nearly identical to that of a Charter Arms? The center pin is very diminutive IMHO, but shouldn't be a problem.
My gripe is the grips, which are great for shooting I suppose, but they are terribly too large to make it a "pocket" gun. The gun itself being larger than a Colt DS or S&W J-frame and no lighter than a 340PD I don't seen to see an advantage, other than perhaps price over the 340.
If they cut 20%+ off of the size of gun, they'd have something. From a marketing standpoint, I don't see what "hole" in the marketplace it is intended to fill.
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05-28-2009, 05:29 PM
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I already have a S&W Model 40-1. It's a gorgeous firearm and I like it alot. I shoot it well and I carried it occasionally. It's not an aluminum or titanium/scandium revolver, it's steel and therefore it's rather heavy.
While my J Frame has that classic appearance that's been around for many, many decades, the new Ruger LCR has a serious and purposeful look. I like that about it. The LCR's two tone black and grey finish is all business. It's extreme light but still capable of firing +P loads all day long.
The trigger pull on my LCR measured 9 pounds, 4 ounces using my Lyman digital trigger pull gauge. The gauge is capable of measuring only up to 12 pounds, so I'm unable to measure my S&W's trigger pull. It's way above 12 pounds.
The sights on the LCR are very good. They're wide and deep and black and easy to see. The grip peg design allows much more rubber in the grip area to cushion your shooting palm. Felt recoil is severely minimized by this design. The LCR shoots very well and it's easy to shoot accurately.
It's nice that the LCR fits most J Frame holsters. It tucks right into an old Clark leather holster:
And it fits like a glove into a new DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster:
I like that the lock system is completely out of the way under the grip. If you want to use it, the key has a screwdriver built in to remove the grip and twist the lock. It would seem that virtually no one uses the internal lock on the S&W so it would have been nice if they had put their lock out of the way under the grips too, instead of where it is.
I have my S&W and I'll never part with it. But my LCR is an excellent weapon too.
The way they're selling, it appears that many shooters (old and new) are spending money on the LCR. Those who carry a concealed firearm for personal protection don't seem to mind much how the gun looks, or if they do, they like the businesslike appearance of the LCR.
I like my LCR a lot. Some have said they're buying LCR's for under $399 at dealers that won't gouge on price just because the LCR is the newest gun on the block. That's a very competitive price....
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05-28-2009, 07:17 PM
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Great pix mm6mm6, thanks for the post.
Since I have such an aversion to the S&W J-frames with the IL, I have not ruled out an LCR in my future.
I like metal guns, and I like variety; also, I don't fault Ruger for furnishing another option for they buying public, who will make their likes / dislikes known with their wallets.
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Thanks for the great review mm6mm6! I just may have to bit the bullet and try one.
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05-29-2009, 01:14 AM
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Great summary!
Is anyone appalled by the hollow trigger? Looks like something on a BB gun! The same can be said to a lesser degree of S&W's MIM triggers, but I don't buy those guns. Looks is part of that decision.
I do want to evaluate the LCR soon. The concept seems sound.
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05-29-2009, 03:51 AM
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As soon as they become available at a reasonable price my wife is going to buy one for her CCW. She has tried one and likes that it is quick to bring into action and its trigger pull.
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05-29-2009, 06:19 AM
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05-29-2009, 11:05 AM
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My sample gun has what is probably a perfect trigger pull for a small defensive revolver. Measuring seven pounds, ten ounces, it feels even lighter. The trigger is wide and smooth on the surface, and the pull feels more like five pounds to my finger.
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Reports like this is what has peaked my interest in the LCR. I have owned and carried a 340pd (.38+p) for years now and it works ok, but the trigger is harsh. I have no idea what the poundage is on the 340 trigger but it 'feels' substantial. I look forward to finding one of these LCR's at the rental range and shooting it side by side with the 340.
Not much concerned about looks on a defensive working gun that spends its days in the pocket.
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As noted in posts in other threads, I recently had the opportunity to shoot an LCR, equipped with the Hogue grips. I LOVE the trigger! With the possible exception of my 37-2, it is the best factory trigger on a snubby I've ever felt, and I've shot a bunch of them. It has what I refer to as "reverse stacking," seeming to become slightly lighter as the pull progesses. After I banged 10 rounds downrange at a target about 10 yards away at our indoor range, I came out to find the range manager bowing to me, in honor of my group size, which was very small. Recoil is MUCH more pleasant than with my 342Ti and +P ammo. FWIW, if I buy one, and I likely will at some point, it will be one equipped with the CT LaserGrips, which look to be near-duplicates of the LG-405 model for J-frames. I have the LG-405s on my 340PD, and I really like them.
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mm6mm6,
Thanks for making time to post the pics and review. Good stuff! I have only had a chance to dry fire the gun (I hope someone brings one to our shoot tomorrow!) I'd love to shoot one. When I first saw it, I was not impressed. After handling and dry-firing the gun, I'm impressed.
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I'm sure it's a fine firearm but I guess I am not quite ready for a polymer revolver quite yet!
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I haven't "held" one yet, and maybe my comment is unfair...however..****ger has to recapture their image. In the last few years, things have been slipping.
Too many of their firearms have had "issues". In the past, Ruger was always known for high quality, good value, fair price and built like a brick outhouse.
It seems some of that has changed. Te LCP .380 auto has been selling like hotcakes, however there have been too many quality control issues with it. Prior to that it was their late "P" pistol that works like a Glock. It too had "issues".
I have a P95 and a P97 that "now" work like a million dollars...however...I had to fix them...right out of the box.
Somehow, this new little tupperware revolver just kinda cries out "gimick" to me?
I could be wrong. I hope I am.
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Saw one at the dealer couple weeks ago. Had a chance to hold it, and was quite impressed initially. Kinda cute in an ugly way.
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Held one at a gun show. It seemed big. Seeing up against the guns posted above, I guess it's just ugly. I'd have one if it were little more affordably priced
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