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Old 07-20-2009, 08:29 AM
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I was thinking of getting one of these revolvers. Does any body have one or have shot one? Looking for some recommendations or opinions on this revolver.

I've handled one at the gun store. They are light and I did like the trigger pull.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:37 AM
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I've handled them and they seem O.K. but you would think since they are made of polymer and castings that they would cost about half or two thirds as much as a S&W 642/442. Since they are about the same price I would go with the S&W every time.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:52 AM
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There are reviews in the current American Rifleman and Guns magazine.
They seem to like it (but what gun mag doesn't) In a way it's pretty neat and real light. The main thing I think is supposed to be a better trigger pull than the awful one on the small J frames like my 642. It has some kind of "cam" set up. Never seen one yet however

I bought one of the first Ruger LCP 380's which got recalled. (it is a fine gun now) So I would wait a year before buying a LCR.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:11 AM
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Saw a guy shoot one at our local range that he was just trying out before a purchase. He is a local LEO, and he was wanting a backup. It misfired on at least two occasions with factory ammo, not reloads. I handed him my Model 40-1, which I agree is heavier, and it worked every time. IMO, it won't do anything that a good S & W won't do, and is one hell of an ugly gun to boot. Save a few more coins (but not many more; these guns ain't cheap; the one I saw was 459.00) and buy a J frame.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:27 AM
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I looked at one a couple of days ago. I don't like it. It felt cheaply made and didn't seem like it would hold up well. The guy at the gun range said they are designed to be carried alot and shot a little. I was expecting more from a Ruger.


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Old 07-20-2009, 10:39 AM
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Ok, here I go again!

First I don't own one, Ive never shot one, I just picked up one and held it in a gun store. I can tell you right now, I wasn't impressed.

Just like the LCP, to me, they seem cheesy. They look like a gun made to fill a niche that doesn't exist.

Ruger has made a number of big mistakes in recent history. Back in the day, Ruger was the manufacture that always got it right, good quality, dependability, the most bang for the buck, blah, blah, blah.

That seems to have all gone by the wayside.

I first noticed it back in the "P" series of pistols. I own two, I like them and I trust them....now that I have "fixed" them. I have a P95 and a P97 they had issues with slide stops backing out, "c" rings that hold pins falling off and improperly designed guide rods and cams on the barrel.

Now that I've done all the factory suggested replacements, they work fine. Why didn't Ruger figure this out before they released them?

The next permutations of the "P" pistols was even worse. I think every one has had a recall.

Now we get to the LCP....they just plain didn't design it right...took short cuts...and as a result put out a gun that only worked...half the time. I think Ruger seems to be working full time just to fix the LCPs?

Before they even got that one worked out they came out with the plastic revolver!

HOLY TOLEDO JONES! GIMME A BREAK!

Now, I've not heard as much about it as the LCP, however I wouldn't be suprised if it was beset with a similary littanay of problems?

Now, while they are doing all this, they come out with a Ruger "branded" version of the AR. Yes, I know it is "different", it is a gas piston operated rifle, ... but why?

Why? Everybody and their brother makes an AR. Why not just make a "good" one?

You can tell old Bill Ruger is not at the helm anymore. Many jumped on him because he bowed to the Feds on magazines, etc. but at least he made good guns.

The company is just not the same. That's a shame!
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:52 AM
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I'll pass thanks. J-frame Smith's have been around for decades and the bugs have long since been worked out. My Granddad carried the same model 37 for 40+ years in his pocket and still functions properly. I don't have the faith in these Rugers that they would hold out like that. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:57 AM
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I expect that it is a good servicable revolver that is completely suitable for its intended function. I don't understand though why Ruger couldn't make it a little better looking. It is about the ugliest revolver that I have ever seen.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:02 AM
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I would look for a year for a good used 640 before I'd buy a L.C.R.
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I posted this May 28th about the Ruger LCR I purchased I carry I often and I do like the way it shoots. I agree it is not pleasing to the eye but its function over form.

I bought a Ruger LCR and I have several S&W J frames. I agree with everything Lee in Quartzsite states. I have been shooting 158 grain round nose bullets and so far have fired 200 rounds . The trigger pull seems longer than S&W but smooth and does not feel like spring is stacking. The grips frame is smaller than the S&W which allows for more rubber in grip. I thnk the grip absorbs more recoil.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:46 AM
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My wife has been carrying the Ruger LCP for about a year and has a few complaints about the gun. The biggest complaint is the long trigger pull, the slide doesn't lock back on an empty mag, and the slide is sometimes difficult for her to lock open. The ammo is expensive and very difficult to find anymore...as is most everything else these days...and she finally decided she wanted a new gun. So we went to our local gun store to look at getting her a new revolver. She looked at the S&W 642, the Taurus Judge, and the Ruger LCR. She left the store with the LCR and a smile on her face! I must say I am impressed with the trigger pull, and the gun as a whole. When we went to the range her first 5 rounds were almost center target at 10 yards using standard .38 ammo. I shot about 15 rounds through the gun and the recoil seemed lighter than my 642. The stock grips are really comfortable and easy to get a quick grip on the gun. The more she shoots the gun the better she likes it.

One thing that might turn off a lot of people is that it does have an Internal Lock. It is a completely different design from the S&W. The lock prevents the compression of the main spring, plus the grips must be removed in order to lock and unlock the gun. The fact that it has an IL is seldom mentioned in Ruger's advertising.

A description if the lock and it's operation is on page 8 of the Owner's Manual: http://www****ger-firearms.com/Firear...Manuals/66.pdf

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Old 07-20-2009, 12:18 PM
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At a gunshow two week ends ago, there were a number of dealers with LCRs for sale. Prices were right around $500. IMO, I don't think there is much practical difference between an S&W Airweight and a LCR, and from a personal preference, the S&Ws look a lot better, for equal or lesser price.
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MM6MM is a member on this board. He's also an LEO for a city north of Chicago. IIRC, he not only has one, but carries one as his BUG.
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I am always amused by all the comments over Ruger having to recall their LCP autoloader while S&W has recently issued a recall for ALL the PPK/S they have produced over six years. At least Ruger is recalling something they just put into production while S&W is attempting to produce a design that has been around since the 1920's! At least Ruger was honest enough to recall the gun and get it fixed rather than denying a problem existed for six years.
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I currently own 6 Ruger handguns and 2 rifles.Including the SR9,345,and the LCP.I bought the SR9 post recall and was so impressed with it I went and got a 345 within 3 weeks.
I got my LCP pre recall and had to send it in.Came back with an extra mag,2 finger extensions for the mags and a hat.Also had better trigger pull and a new slide stop.I like the looks of the LCR and love the trigger pull,but I'm going to wait to buy until it has been out for a year or so,Just to make sure there isn't a recall.I don't think the quality has gone down at all,Iv'e shot all 3 of these about 200 rounds each and have had no FTF or FTE.
The fit and finish is very good.I do believe that they rushed the SR9 and LCP to market and didn't get all the bugs worked out. Just my NSHO. With that I'm off to my local pusher to pickup my new 642 PowerPort.

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I'll wait a few years before even thinking about buying an LCR. I want any problems or recalls worked out before I buy. I'll stick with S&W 637.
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I'll resurrect an old thread and sound off about my experience with my LCR.
I have put just under 500 rounds through it so far, all reloads except for 5 rounds. I have experienced no malfunctions of any kind and I have not given it a proper cleaning yet. I do have to brush the chambers every 50 rounds or so or loaded rounds will not drop all the way in. This is probably a symptom of the dirty powder I'm feeding the gun. When the chambers get dirty it is no problem to exert a little pressure on the rounds and they will go in.
The sight picture is excellent and is superior to an early model 36, a 37 and a model 40 (all blued guns, btw) that I compared it to. All loads shot poa/poi at 30 feet. It seems to prefer higher pressure/velocity in all bullet weights. Some old Remington 140gr JHP's that I had sitting around amazed me with 1 hole accuracy at 30 feet offhand.
Mine wears the Crimson Trace Laser grips and is as comfortable to shoot as my 36, which also has Crimson Trace grips, even though the LCR is 7 ounces lighter (13 vs. 20 ounces). It is WAY more comfortable to shoot then the 37. Part of the reason for this is probably that the backstrap area of the grips on the LCR is wider than the grips on the Smiths and thus distributes recoil across a wider area of my hand.
The LCR fits the same leather that works with my S&W’s. I don’t have any Kydex holsters to test so I can’t say if they would work. I suspect they would not, due to differences in the trigger guards and that Kydex holsters tend to use the trigger guard for retention.
Speaking of trigger guards, the LCP has more area inside the guard and does not ‘slap’ my trigger finger like the j-frames sometimes do.
The trigger on my LCR is better to EVERY stock J-frame trigger I have felt and contributes, greatly, to my comfort while shooting it. Ruger broke new ground with the trigger on the LCR. The trigger pull is lighter, smoother and totally linear in feel. In many cases it is FAR superior. The LCR trigger has a smooth face and a slightly different contour that I find more comfortable than the serrated trigger on my 36.
Yes, the gun is ugly, but it is beautiful when measured by how well it performs its job. It carries as lightly as an Airweight and is more comfortable while shooting to boot. What’s not to like?
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I think I will just stay with the Model 60, no problems, and very trust worthy, it has been my friend for 30 years
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I personally like RUGER the LCR is light and the crimson trace grips are a plus but if you actually look at the gun it is junk if I were to twist or drop the thing it WILL break. I own and have owned several Rugers but the LCR is one I would not own check-- YouTube - Buyers Beware : Ruger LCR --and you will see what I mean. I did not leave empty handed the 642-2 is my first NEW smith but for concealed carry it will do the job. I just removed the flag but plan on shooting it for a while before I can put my life's trust on it, and I also need to wait for a backordered Mika holster. I once owned an H&R .22 that would miss a few when fired for some reason the LCR reminded me of how quickly I junked it.

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I have carried a J-Frame, usually a Model 37, 38, 442 or 638, for almost all of my adult life.

Now, I carry an LCR with CTS, and the J-Frame is in a drawer by my bed.

Nothing against the J-Frames, but the LCR shoots better and a little softer for me.


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It may be the greatest thing since the invention of the bored through cylinder. But I will never know because I cannot get past the looks.
Ruger should put out T-shirts with its picture that says "Go Ugly Early"
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It may be the greatest thing since the invention of the bored through cylinder. But I will never know because I cannot get past the looks.
Ruger should put out T-shirts with its picture that says "Go Ugly Early"
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It's looks like a little bitty air impact wrench.

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I like my LCR, the wide front sight is easy to acquire, to me the recoil with +P ammo is the same as what I feel with my 637 or 642, and the price seems right - around $450 locally.

What does not work for me, and its my problem, not the LCR's, is the trigger, specifically the return, it is too soft, and I am constatnly short stroking it, I think because I'm am so used to the triggers on my S&W's. Others shooting my LCR do not have this problem.

My LCR does not fit the holsters I have for my J frames, the D. Hume JIT and a Bianchi thumbbreak, the trigger guard shape is too different.
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Wow, there's something I missed in my 500 round review! That gun is toast! I would guess LOTS of rapid-fire with 125 gr +p's. I damaged a 66 with a steady diet of those types of bullets, so steel guns are not impervious to cutting. I just checked and my LCR shows just the slightest amount of flame-cutting. It's something that can be seen with good light and a magnifying glass and felt only with a dental pick or similar tool. I will keep an eye on it but I will not change my habits and will continue to carry it and shoot it as much as I can.

My 36 was purchased used. Before I got it, it passed through the hands of at least one police officer who shot it regularly. It is about 50 years old, has digested an unknown number of rounds, and shows NO signs of flame-cutting. I know I have shot at least 1,000 rounds personally, though most of the rounds were mild reloads using LSWC bullets. The LCR has digested only jacketed bullets to date. Most of them were loaded relatively hot.
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I ordered one and it should be here today or tomorrow.

As to the video, I have seen that. There is no mention of what ammo he is shooting? Factory or Hand Loads?? How hot are those loads?? One video by some unknown, with unknown ammo??

Will have to see on my own. I do like the trigger better than my 642.
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It's nice and light, the action is slick and there are no fitted parts whatsoever on the gun.

There is only one little problem...

It's just too dad-burn big!

That nasty long rubber grip precludes it from any serious pocket carry. Nothing else interchanges with it's grip I am told. Sure, it might make it easier to shoot, but terrible for carry.

They need a gun about 1/2 to 2/3's the size of it or a 642, and then we'd be "cookin' with gas."
Even if it was in a .32 Magnum or something. They missed the mark with this gun- likely it was just an experiment to see how the public reacts to the concept. I'm willing to bet that Mr. Killoy has more than just this up his sleeve, trust me.
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It's nice and light, the action is slick and there are no fitted parts whatsoever on the gun.

There is only one little problem...

It's just too dad-burn big!

That nasty long rubber grip precludes it from any serious pocket carry. Nothing else interchanges with it's grip I am told. Sure, it might make it easier to shoot, but terrible for carry.

They need a gun about 1/2 to 2/3's the size of it or a 642, and then we'd be "cookin' with gas."
Even if it was in a .32 Magnum or something. They missed the mark with this gun- likely it was just an experiment to see how the public reacts to the concept. I'm willing to bet that Mr. Killoy has more than just this up his sleeve, trust me.
Can't speak for the stock grip, but the Crimson Trace grip allows front pocket carry, no poblem.
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It's nice and light, the action is slick and there are no fitted parts whatsoever on the gun.

There is only one little problem...

It's just too dad-burn big!

That nasty long rubber grip precludes it from any serious pocket carry. Nothing else interchanges with it's grip I am told. Sure, it might make it easier to shoot, but terrible for carry.

They need a gun about 1/2 to 2/3's the size of it or a 642, and then we'd be "cookin' with gas."
Even if it was in a .32 Magnum or something. They missed the mark with this gun- likely it was just an experiment to see how the public reacts to the concept. I'm willing to bet that Mr. Killoy has more than just this up his sleeve, trust me.
What the world needs now is HE I frame 2". Oh yeah, it's been done. I'd rather have one of those in .38 than a Ruger LCR. I've got a 2 3/4" Security Six which is a heck of a gun
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Why buy a LCR when you can buy a nice S&W for
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It's not special enough to replace my 442....a gun that ugly better reload itself and make dinner.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:32 PM
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I guess I am in the minority. I don't mind the looks at all-to use that disgustingly overused cliche-It is what it is-a lightweight, compact self-defense gun. No frills, stainless, black and, so far, reliable.

But, I like the looks of a Glock, too. The G19 is certainly a reliable self-defense gun.

I shot mine at 25 yards today in the low-light, covered area of the outdoor range and found it to be quite accurate. Several of the old timers, who shoot pistol on Thursdays (K-38s and Officers Targets) were watching and commenting on the good groups.

I had no good eason to buy another carry gun, other than I decided to treat myself to a new gun. I rarely buy "new" but decided just to do it.

I still have J-frames, but don't and won't have a new one for reasons that have been beaten to death here.

I found a nice pocket holster, leather, with a hook to catch my pocket on Ebay (and paid for it with Paypal ) and it works perfectly.

If it turns out not to be absolutely reliable, or if the Youtube guy's experience is found to be other than an isolated event, then the LCR will "go away."

But, so far, with CTs, I really like it.

Bob

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