Belgium made revolvers.

[Thuer]

The reaction of Ivan the Butcher on my looks like a model 1903 gave me this idear. Let see your Belgium made revolvers. I do know that there is a lot out there in America. Here I start with my part of collection. It is a copy of the Webley RIC in .44. I did shoot it with .44 Russian. It prefomed well on 25 meter. I have really know idear who have made this revolver. The safety is typical for the German market. The quality is what lesser than the real thing but good. It is safe to shoot.

[Thuer]

Here is a small pocket revolver made by Ancion Marx. It is in .320. There is a small safety knop on the side. When you push it it block the internal hammer. The workmanship is good.

[Valmet]

Two interesting, old mechanical devices for sure.

[MCorps0311]

Two nice old revolvers,wished they were mine.

[Old_Cop]

There is a whole world of interesting guns in Europe, keep them coming.

[Chromedhearts]

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[muddocktor]

Those are real nice man!

[Thuer]

This revolver is that ugly that it is beautifull again. It is an Belgium made copy of the Montenegrin Gasser revolver. The caliber is 12mm. Never shot it becouse the point of the hammer is missing. Some wrong atempt to disarm it. The problem is you can not find a fitting hammer for it.The bar on the right side is a safety device. When you cock the hammer a bit then push the bar in. A block at the end of that bar is in between the hammer and frame. Does it work? No. The grip is bone.

[Thuer]

This little revolver has the big name ofhis maker Debouxthay Dieudone. It has a nice safety feature. If you look closely you see a little lever on the hammer. If you pull this down the end fits in a slot of the frame. So the hammer can not move. But that is not all. The sear is even out of reach of the trigger. That is the most intresting part of the revolver. I do have a pic of the hammer but I can not find it now.

[Thuer]

Found the picture of the hammr finaly. The safety is in use now. The lever is down to prevent cocking the revolver. But you do see also the sear fold in to the hammer. So the trigger do not pick up the hammer when pulling the trigger.

[Thuer]

This is a so called LeNovo revolver. it is in .25 acp made about 1905. It is well know of his folding grip. The grip is made off brass. The knop on the rear is the releas knop for the grip. For loading you have to take the revolver apart. This system with a lever is also in use by some Galand made revolvers. This LeNovo is made by Le Page.

[ol777gunnerz]

Not a revolver, but a Belgian copy of the Stevens Lord single shot .22lr target pistol made by D J Counet of Liege,Belgium. Still retains nice case coloring with black ebony wood grips, and was re-barreled by A O Niedner in the 20's with a 12 inch Olympic chambered barrel.

[Thuer]

That is a nice piece.

[Thuer]

This a old Police or Customs revolver. It could also be in use by Tax inspectors. It is in Dutch 9.4 mm black powder load cartridge. It has a od safety device. The lanyardring is the safety. If you turn it one quarter it blocks the hammer. It is made by Ancion Marx. The same maker as the tiny pocket revolver post before. The type of revolver is called Kobold revolver. Is any type of some kind of police revolver in 9.4 Dutch. In one picture you can see the rod wich is attached to the lanyardring and hammer block

[Thuer]

This is also a Belgium made revolver. It is a wonderfull copy of the great Colt model 1860. This revolver is made from the 60 ties till about early 80ties. But you can immidatly reconize it as a Centaure due the sharp lines on the barrel.
Hanquete was a gunmaker in Liege who made this quality copy. It is well made and better than Italian made copy's

[Old_Cop]

You have a great collection, I especially like the police/customs revolver. It has a purposeful look.

[Thuer]

Thank you Old Cop. I do have some more. But I have to take good pictures of them.

[Thuer]

Back in the early 1900. If you do not know a bit about firearms, you could be fooled. This is a typical Belgium made revolver with just one purpose. To decieve. It is not what it seems to be. When I show it to my friend who are not in to revolvers or guns at all, I ask what is this? The answer is always "A Smith and Wesson". They only read the text on the original Smith and Wesson grips. Yes. They fit the revolver perfect But, No sir. It is a Belgium made revolver to look like a Smith and Wesson double action. But it is really NOT so.

[WhiteHorseFirearms]

I have a revolver similar to this in my shop now. The customer wants some repairs to make it functional. I am not sure at this point if it is a good idea. I would like to know more about these Belgium revolvers. The one in my shop has nothing other the the cartridge designation, some proof marks, and "Belgium" stamped on it. There is a number 3 stamped on multiple places, which is much like a serial number; but there is a serial number on the frame (maybe from an importer?). The customer thinks that it is a model three clone. But it looks more like a Smith & Wesson First Model Double Action Revolver. There is no side plate. I would appreciate any insight on this. I am also trying to assess the value to see if repairs are worth it.

[Thuer]

The number 3 indicates the frame size. These revolvers where made by several craftsman. They use the parts with number 3 on it to fit the frame. So you have also revolvers with number 5 and so on. There is no specific maker. They are al for the trade. Do you have pictures of that revolver?

[Warren Sear]

Originally Posted by Thuer

This is also a Belgium made revolver. It is a wonderfull copy of the great Colt model 1860. This revolver is made from the 60 ties till about early 80ties. But you can immidatly reconize it as a Centaure due the sharp lines on the barrel.
Hanquete was a gunmaker in Liege who made this quality copy. It is well made and better than Italian made copy's

I have a Belgian made Centaure revolver like the one in post #15 above. I also have a Colt Manufactured 1860 Army, and the Belgian gun is every bit its equal, but made from better steel. In fact, a case can be made that the Centaur was made under contract for Colt (you can read more here FROCS – Friends of the Centaure Society ), and is therefore not a replica.

I got mine cheap some years ago from someone who found it in their attic, wrapped in a rag. It was covered in rust, and the mechanism would not operate. I liked the gun, so I bought it as a wall hanger. I got the gun home, soaked it in penetrating oil, and then very carefully disassembled it. To my amazement, the barrel and charge holes were in perfect condition, once I got all the grease and dirt out!

My gun was made around 1967.

I later made the funny holster for it, and gave it an "antique" finish to match the gun.

The gun operates perfectly and shoots great! I love the gun just the way it is, and would never even consider re-finishing it.

[Warren Sear]

OK, here is the second generation Colt (and a reproduction Remington, with fluted cylinders and genuine fake ivory grips)...

[Thuer]

I do have contact with the FROCS. I do know the author of the book about the Centaure. There is a pic of a rawe frame wich I gave him.

[OLDSTER]

Originally Posted by Thuer

This is a so called LeNovo revolver. it is in .25 acp made about 1905. It is well know of his folding grip. The grip is made off brass. The knop on the rear is the releas knop for the grip. For loading you have to take the revolver apart. This system with a lever is also in use by some Galand made revolvers. This LeNovo is made by Le Page.

Outstanding condition of the finish and the screws. WOW !!

[Thuer]

This is a Belgium made revolver by Fagnus. In 1913 the firm becomes Clement. The revolver is made about 1888.
With the handle you can open the sideplate for cleaning. Parts are easy to replace. Caliber is .450 Never shot it. The safety is a odd one. You have to open the loading gate. The lip of the loading gate fits is a slot of the cilinder. So it wont turn. But this gives a problem. When you open the gate full open. You can as i said not turn the cilinder. So you have to fold it a bit back.
The quality of the revolver is great. The barrel is srewed totaly in the frame from the front.

[WhiteHorseFirearms]

Originally Posted by Thuer

The number 3 indicates the frame size. These revolvers where made by several craftsman. They use the parts with number 3 on it to fit the frame. So you have also revolvers with number 5 and so on. There is no specific maker. They are al for the trade. Do you have pictures of that revolver?

There are two photo links in my previous post (at the very end). Thanks for the info.

[Thuer]

Sorry Whitehorsefirearms. I can not see the photo's. This type of firearm are worth almost nothing. Quality and craftmanship are usely poor. They where cheapmade.

[Thuer]

This revolver is made by the same inventor as the Le Novo. The name is D.D. Oury. This is a pocket revolver with a very long hammerspur. The reasson for thatis that the hammerspur is placed very low. So it would not get stuck in your trouserpocket. The craftmanship is outstanding. There are a lot of parts where you do think "Is this really usefull?" . But the other one I have seen is in the possesion of the Dutch Army Museum in their guncollection. They where rather suprised that I do own one to. The caliber is .32 acp. Made just after 1900. I love this piece becouse its complexity.