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Old 02-18-2012, 12:53 AM
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A neat old "dealer trade" magazine from 1958.

I know the scans are painfully large, but I wanted you to be able to read it.

I met Arvo and one of his daughters at a show many years ago. Truly an interesting gentleman. His daughter was a charming and beautiful woman.

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NOTE that in the shootout pic above--------------/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ , the caption calls Bill Jordan "Bill Joyner". Jordan is the giant that is about a foot and a half taller than the other guy.














Some very interesting ads in this mag:

Tio Sam's son??


Heiser-Keyston???




Did you know Matt Dillon used a Great Western, not a Colt? The grips were plastic stag, probably by Franzite-



How about an ad by Rex for PINTO Mod 27's!!!!
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Wow!! I wish those prices were still good. I'd be broke for buying leather shortly. Looks like "Doris" is giving the suit the old "Your buying this one!!" special salespersons technique of employing the business end of the cannon to the nose.
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That Model 27 ad is killing me...

Of course, I was 8 months old in May of '58, and $119.95 bought a whole lot more groceries then than it does now.

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Neat and thanks!

I did notice that they mis-identified Bill Jordan as "Bill Joyner" in that story though.
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Neat and thanks!

I did notice that they mis-identified Bill Jordan as "Bill Joyner" in that story though.
Maybe he was "undercover" and using an assumed name.
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Yeah, Jordan always did kinda stick out. Hard to mistake him for anyone else!
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Great post!! I was 5 years old on the 31st of May in '58, I wish my Dad had bought me a Smith and put it back!
I watched all those shows and movies as a kid. Heck, I still do. That was a better time.
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The fellow that Ojala partnered up with, Andy Anderson, was a Fort Smith, Arkansas boy who came home from WWII and opened a saddle shop in Fort Smith and made holsters.

He soon got caught up in the move to Californy wave that was taking place. He partnered with Ojala for a while then they split and Anderson opened his own shop, I think across the street.

Anderson was soon getting his share of the entertainment business and Clint Eastwood developed a fondness for his holster on "Rawhide" and then used them on the Spagetti westerns. Anderson also produced a lot of leather for the Walk & Draw craze that swept California.

He also produced regular everyday carry leather under his brand "Gunfighter Leather". Here are a couple of examples I acquired with the help of Wyatt Burp.Had a great maker's cartouche also.


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Alfonso Pineda was another holster-maker borne of the Arvo Ojala enterprise. His business, Alfonso's of Hollywood, is still operating and producing fine holsters under direction of his son Omar located just north of Hollywood in Burbank: Alfonsos gunleather gunbelts and leather gun holsters

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Very interesting, Lee.
Oh, and I'll take 50 Victory .38's for $1000, please. And a dozen Pinto pre-Model 27's.
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This is great! I've been into his stuff hardcore after watching Silverado in 1985. i contacted him and ordered a left handed rig from him. I asked him lots of questions about various movie stars. I told him i had a VHS tape of "The Oregon Trail" where he twirls a Walker Colt. He said it was the only film he had lines in. He asked me to make him a copy and sent me $5 in a fancy Ojala envelope with Paladin card. Here it is on my wall right now with his cards. In the envelope is pamphlets for items he was marketing at the time.


When my son was 5 or 6 I made him a mini-Ojala rig, using mine as a pattern.


Thanks for showing us this stuff. he was a great guy and would tolerate my endless questions like, "did Marylin Monroe smell good?" where he laughed and said, "Yeah!"

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Excellent photos of the magazine, thanks for posting.

The one that fascinates me is the New York gun store on 137 E. 57th St.
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Fun read as soon as I got over all the fingers on triggers...

Still, thank you for showing me the years I wasn't around for and kind of wish I had been there.
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This is indeed a very fun post. I love looking at vintage articles like these! Am I the only one that noticed in the very first photo, James Arness is about to blow Ojala's hand off as he re-holsters his double action with his finger squarely on the trigger!??
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My wife sent this to a friend in Hollywood. He lives not far from where Arvo's shop was. Arvo and Arness filmed this as a joke. This is a showdown in a kind of trailer they filmed as a joke. That is Arvo shooting Arness.

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I will take a bunch of those 1917s for $22.50 apiece. I see Alphonso Pineta is mentioned. I have several of his rigs. He built me this one for my 2 1/2" python around 1971. Seems to me it was in the $60 area for holster and belt. (Belt shrunk a good foot) Also alfonso built the forward canted holster for my remington rand. I used to live in the north hollywood area around 1965 and worked for universal studio before I went to lockheed. Nudies (sp?) was quite a place too for that stuff. There was a LOT of nice gun and leather shops around there back then.





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I could not help but notice that everyone holding a gun in those picture also had thier finger on the trigger? I guess it was ok back then. I suppose the people were smarter then too.
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I love old ads and articles.
They speak of a simpler, yet more responsible time.
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Oh Gosh; This brings me back to the '50's when I was young. I had a running charge account at Frontier Gun Shop in Lafayette, Ca. Bought a pre war Colt SA 32-20 for 65 bucks. A Colt Bisley 44-40 for 65 bucks, too.Added a lot of S&W's to the collection, all older models. A new Model 28 was 85 bucks. And my pre war M&P 38 Sp. was 30 bucks. You could order guns by mail & no problems. Glory days of collecting for sure. Wish I could have hung onto most of them but most are gone now.
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I could not help but notice that everyone holding a gun in those picture also had thier finger on the trigger? I guess it was ok back then. I suppose the people were smarter then too.
You don't know how many times I've written to the Editor of Motorcycle Magazines criticizing them for publishing adds of guys riding at fast speeds with no jackets, helmets or gloves. I guess it's just a "cool" thing outweighs common sense for advertising purposes.
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I winced at all the fingers on triggers as well.
Great thread, glad it was resurrected. Lee has some good stories to tell about
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He didn't just make fast draw rigs- here's a duty type swivel holster for a Combat Masterpiece.
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When I worked in PA (before 1982) I had two coworkers who had Colt SAA's with Ojala holsters. I wonder if they still have them? I wonder if they're still around?
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Very good article--thanks for posting. I remember reading the occasional article by Lachuk back in the day. The quality of the writing sure beats what we see now...

The ad for S&W 1917s, $22.50 each in lots of 3, brings a tear to my eye though.
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Hey guys, get over the finger on the trigger stuff. That was never taught in the 50 or 60s, nor the 1970s that I recall. It all started in the mid to late 1980s and then went "postal" in the 1990s. It reportedly was all about instructors being nervous over the various classes with all those fools having little to no muzzle control. Meaning they couldn't make them stop pointing the guns at them, but at least they felt better about not having twitchy fingers on the triggers.

I did like the article, and I realize that living in the South means we don't or haven't seen the number of fast draw rigs folks out in Kali saw. They just aren't around here. The big name jobs like HH Heiser are around (or they were until I bought them.) And that name makes my wife nervous.

Here I am "living" on SS and I just swore (I swear a lot), but the kind of swearing I did recently was that if I ever saw another Heiser saddle in good condition, I was buying it. I don't care if she or the grand kids have to ride on it or the roof, its coming home with me. And of course she asked where I was going to "store" it. And I pointed out I wasn't. I was going to buy a barrel and put it in the living room where the kids could ride it whilst (while) watching the fireplace or the TV, or looking out the windows at the river. Some things I say she just ignores, other things she knows I'm dead serious about. And for whatever reason, I like tooled leather.

And every time I see posts and articles on holsters, I get to thinking. Not a lot of deep thought, but I'm known for being kind of crazy. I'm looking for a leather worker who will make me a few belts. The kind that would go around me or you a couple of times. I want to display some of my holsters on a belt or two. Not one per belt, but maybe a dozen. I've never seen that done before, but if arranged well, it'd look nice.
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Arvo was one of a kind. He and I had adjacent tables at the old Las Vegas Beinfeld shows at the Sahara for several years in the 90s, so we had many conversations about his actor clients. I had Gary Cooper's Registered Magnum and the holster that came with it, from Gary's widow. I recognized it as an Arvo Ojala holster, but it was unmarked, except for the name "Coop" on it.. Arvo identified it as one of his early holsters, personally made for Gary, before he marked them. Cooper used other Ojala holsters in many of the westerns he starred in and Arvo said he was and quick learner in fast draw and quite familiar with firearms, having been raised on a ranch in Montana. I knew Arvo for years before that and bought holsters and gun rigs in the 60s, 70s & 80s, from his ( and Andy's ) shops, for resale at my gun store. Arvo passed away in 2005 at age 85. He has a table at the Great Gun Show in the Sky now. Ed.
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Lee just pointed this post out to me. The Cooper gun, along with Arvo's holster, are now part of my collection. They are both outstanding examples and I'm very proud of them.

The gun won a silver medal for Sheryl (and Ray) Cheely at the NRA show a few years back. I keep the medal with the gun, of course.

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I have to go along with several other members observations.NOT Bill Joyner,certainly NOT, sawed off little Charlie Askins, the "giant" in the pics is Bill Jordan, Border Patrolman and fast draw artist supreme in the day. Nick
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I have to go along with several other members observations.NOT Bill Joyner,certainly NOT, sawed off little Charlie Askins, the "giant" in the pics is Bill Jordan, Border Patrolman and fast draw artist supreme in the day. Nick
I finally corrected my mislabeling of the Bill Jordan pic. I can only attribute it to a 'cognitive lapse' due to posting too late at night.
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Here's Matt Dillon before he got an Ojala rig. Gun looks 7 1/2" but in even earlier shows he had a 5 1/2" gun in a shorter holster. His gun shown here in both pictures is a Colt Bisley with SAA parts put on it. Look how the frame is higher where the backstrap screws on. Also, it's the gun he switched to real stags later.
Edit: in this link featuring the top sixgun, the serial number is different than the one with the real stag grips. It's on that paper it's laying on. But both have Bisley frames. Weird.

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Here is the original black 7 1/2" rig I ordered straight from Ojala in 1985. I made belts for the short black and tan rigs pictured. Both holsters found on sale online without gun belts. The stuff in the frame is what Arvo sent me as mentioned in an earlier post here. I want to post anecdotes for posterity of things he told me on the phone before they fade in my head. He told me, maybe exaggerating a little that the guys in Silverado never touched a gun before. He said he stayed at Scott Glenn's house while coaching him on fast draw. He was supposed to spin guns for Costner in closeups but got in a car wreck in New Mexico so taught Costner to do it himself, and he did great. He said he had a lawsuit pertaining to the car wreck.
I told him I wish I could find real jigged bone grips for a Colt single action. He said he had a pair once but Gary Cooper bought them. In an early 70s gun magazine Sammy D. Jr. showed his gun collection and on the wall was a 4 3/4" Colt SAA with jigged bone grips he got frome Gary Cooper. Clint Eastwood said he owns that gun now. Could those be the Ojala grips?
There's that great picture of Ojala cheek tocheek with Marilyn Monroe aiming down at the gun in his hand from "River Of No Return" where I guess he coached them. This was very early for him doing this. I asked him if she smelled good and he laughed and said, "Yeah!".
He said Kevin Kline and Costner carried real Colts in Silverado but Glenn an Italian gun, probably from Allen Arms I would think. Don't know if Kline's had real ivory, though.
That black rig was $195 + $5 shipping in 1985. Took a year to get. I dropped a hint saying I liked the Paladin rig better ($300) hoping he might make mine like that but no luck. He did say, though, that they looked better for left handers because the horse faced forward.
I believe he was in Roseda, Ca. at the time and I think (this part is foggy and maybe not right)he said his holsters were made in Tacoma. Something about his son being in the military his daughter in law running the shop. Maybe I'm mixing that part up with something incorrect someone else told me.
I mentioned Andy Anderson and he lit up a little saying, "The sonofa ....used to work for me!". And we know what that's about, right, Red?
If I remember anything else I'll post it. It was real thrill talking to him about movies and holsters. I only wished I knew ahead of time that he was going to be outside Sonora, Ca. not far from me when coaching Michael J. Fox in the western Back To The Future sequel. I'd like to have tried to call him to get onto the set.’, if he remembered me at all. Though long winded, I hope those out there who are into Hollywood fast draw find this interesting.








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Excellent photos of the magazine, thanks for posting.

The one that fascinates me is the New York gun store on 137 E. 57th St.
The store in Chicago is fascinating, too, but the taxidermist in Brooklyn, NY, that takes the cake!

My mother worked for years for the Broadway music writer/lyricist/agent Frank Loesser at an address that I think was on West 57th Street, maybe a couple of hundred yards from that gun store - that I don't remember ever seeing as a youngster in NY.
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