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I had won this Sam Browne belt on Gunbroker. Notice that in addition to the long over the shoulder strap, it also has four short loop straps with D rings for attaching a longer strap on both the left and right side.....


I have another Sam Browne belt that I will take the long over the shoulder strap off of, and can use it in conjunction with the other over the shoulder strap,....or I can just get two short belt type straps to use instead. Then I can use these straps to support the weight of two shoulder holsters if I wear the Sam Browne belt across my chest (instead of on my waist) as you will see in the pics below. Two straps over each shoulder will hold the Sam Browne belt up so it won't slip down off my chest. This is for open carry naturally.

I am purchasing two U.S. model 1917 flap revolver holsters for my twin 1917 S&W's. I am not concerned with fast draw, I want two shoulder holsters with flaps that will keep my 1917 revolvers secure when in the woods and no way they will fall out even on horseback, also to protect them from branch scrapes and the elements better too. I figure I can get to them fast enough even with them being flap holsters.

The reason I want them as twin left and right shoulder holsters, is because I will already have on my twin 1912 mounted cavalry holsters around my waist holding my hi capacity para ordnance 1911 and my standard capacity 7 rd auto ordnance 1911, thus I need my 1917 revolvers up higher and out of the way of my twin 1911's in my twin mounted cavalry 1912 holster rig, even though that 1912 cavalry waist rig is drop leg swivel holsters, I still need the 1917 holsters up out of the way of the waist belt.

Then I can use the Sam Browne belt rig and straps to make a twin shoulder holster rig wherein the belt is worn around the chest, that can also be worn around the waist if wanted, that I got the idea of from the western comic book called "The Rawhide Kid" as seen in these below pics.....




I thought it would be a good idea because this way I can use my Sam Browne belt and twin left and right 1917 revolver flap holsters to hold my two S&W 1917's either as a shoulder holster rig when I also wear my twin 1912 mounted cavalry waist belt rig with my 1911's, or as a regular waist belt rig if I don't want to carry four handguns at the same time.

Something a little different from the regular shoulder holster we usually see, that can also be worn as a waist belt, so it is versatile and does double duty.


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Hum... looks good to me! But, given that you will almost assuredly need to be able to work from a distant to a close in target, it sound like you'd be better served to put the 1911's up on your chest and the 1917's on your hips. Given their generally better out of the box accuracy, this will allow you to engage at a longer range. If their capacity is not sufficient for the task at hand, you will have the two loaded 1911's which with magazines offer a higher capacity and rate of fire. And, if all else fails and your have to jump on your horse and ride away, you can always throw the 1911's at one's opponent while saving yourself... and your 1917's. :-)
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If'n you're going to be carrying 1917's...you're going to need a carrier suited to your needs of moonclipped ammuntion...

This moonclip caddy from Andrews Custom Leather (one of your neighbors) would fit the bill nicely:
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He also makes a magazine carrier for 1911's that will hold 10 mags!
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Just sent the money order out today for the Sam browne belt and left and right 1917 flap revolver holsters. I'll let everyone know how the rig works out as a shoulder holster when I receive it.


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If'n you're going to be carrying 1917's...you're going to need a carrier suited to your needs of moonclipped ammuntion...

This moonclip caddy from Andrews Custom Leather (one of your neighbors) would fit the bill nicely:
http://www.andrewsleather.com/fullmoon_a.jpg
Thanks Andy. I like that carrier. Going to go check the Andrews leather site out.
Looks like it wouldn't be too hard to home make either. Just some leather, some snaps/hardware and wooden dowels.

(Edit: Just went to the Andrews leather site and saw price on full moon clip pouch. $175.00 ouch! Time for a trip to the craft store for some snaps. Get some leather and wooden dowels.
From the photo it doesn't look like it would be hard to make at all. The leather snaps down onto a snap on the top of the wooden dowel. Come to think of it, I don't see why I couldn't make two full moon clips stack on top of each other with the dowel going through them. Going to consider several self made ideas for moon clip pouch.)




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Get 2 slings like the cavalry used in the 1800s and you will be able to also carry 2 carbines. You could use a travois to carry ammo. Larry
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Get 2 slings like the cavalry used in the 1800s and you will be able to also carry 2 carbines. You could use a travois to carry ammo. Larry
I think carrying four handguns and their ammo will be enough without me dragging a travois behind me to carry more ammo. But I feel you understand that and were jesting.

There have been several comments regarding weight, such as "You'd be top heavy", "get a red wagon", and of course your facetious, jocularly humorous suggestion I carry not only my four handguns (which I have done in the past and intend to do again), but that I also carry two carbines and a drag sled (travois) to carry ammo with.

Okay, I get the humor, but what I don't understand is what seems so terribly strange to some people about me carrying the weight of four handguns? I have carried and still do carry sometimes, two black powder 1860 revolvers and two Uberti hombre .45 colt cartridge revolvers, in four separate holsters on the same belt along with cartridges for the .45 cal Uberti's on cartridge loops on that belt. Even with a partial disability that's no big deal for me to carry. Carrying four handguns instead of just two, would be about the same or even less weight than carrying two handguns and a full canteen and a lightly filled backpack.

When I was in the Marines I carried a heck of a lot more than that. I carried my M14 rifle (which is not light and a lot heavier than a modern M16), a backpack filled with C-rats, extra socks & underwear, spare shirt and trousers, toiletries, extra boot laces, blanket roll under the back pack, sometimes an extra pair of boots and sometimes a field jacket, and other necessities, a canteen filled with water, (and a canteen filled with water is more heavy than some single handguns), my web belt holding not only my canteen and bayonet and scabbard, but several filled mag pouches for my M14 rifle, a small first aid kit on my web belt, a fiberglass helmet liner with a steel helmet over that on my head, not to mention various other things I've probably forgotten to list. And that was considered just a normal load, not a particularly heavy one.

Haven't any of the people who seemed surprised about the weight of four revolvers on my body ever been in the military and carried a backpack and gear? If they have, then what is so strange to some of them about me carrying four revolvers and a few mags of ammo and a few moon clips of ammo that they either question me or make humorous fun of me carrying four handguns? Would they be surprised if I also carried a rifle along with the four handguns?

I've had two spine surgeries with titanium inserts in my spine, four knee surgeries (two on each knee) and my back and knees hurt me frequently, one elbow surgery to reattach a ligament torn while in the gym, left fingers crushed and repaired, wrist surgeries on both wrists, end of right collarbone removed due to spurs, I'm not in the shape I used to be when I was younger, and I still have no problem carrying four handguns and their extra ammo at the age of 58.

What's the matter with some people? Have they never carried anything heavier than a lightly filled fanny pack, or their cell phone or IPod or a beer?

I'm not taking offense at any of their remarks, I see their humor, I just don't understand their logic weight wise.

Maybe old Marines just think differently.




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Thanks Coiler, when the belt and holsters arrive and I get the straps set up on the belt, I'll post about how it all turned out and maybe post some pics too.


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Lol. Good one. We get a lot of hurricane wind in Florida. I've lived here most of my life and it's not that kind of wind that worries me, but another type of possible coming storm entirely that adds to my thoughts of how to carry as many guns and as much ammo as reasonably and physically possible on my body. Although possibly said in jest by another member here, perhaps a travois isn't a bad idea, to carry other provisions for several people besides guns and ammo. Only I'd use a modern lightweight one with harness and push/pull bar and wheels like used to carry deer out of the woods. Would make a great off road bail out cart for several people if all the roads were gridlocked. A small one could be pushed/pulled by one person if necessary and a larger one could be pulled by a horse or ATV or dirt bike. Perhaps the other member here who mentioned I might think about using a travois wasn't jesting after all, he might just have something there.




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Looks like a great project to me... cept I either need to get more doubles on the guns I have or I'd need 4 different holsters... MORE GUNS! By crackie... what a novel idea! Thanks!

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You carry as many of them handguns and anything else you take a mind too ya hear!!
Thanks Iggy, will do. Tell your boy I said Semper Fi and tell him I said to thank him for his service too.

Yesterday I got an e mail from the holster guy who said he is shipping my Sam Browne belt and holsters out today. Should get them in four to five days. Then I'll attach the straps and post again to let you know how the rig works out as a twin shoulder holster for my 1917's in conjunction with my twin drop leg cavalry 1911 holster's. Going to be interesting to see how this works out. The good thing is, if it doesn't, I can still use the Sam Browne belt and holsters as a waist belt.




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That's pretty interesting, Bill. If I read you right about flap holsters it seams it would hard to open them under a coat. But let us see the end product. Twenty five years ago i wanted a double shoulder holster vest rig like Wes Hardin supposedly wore so i made one. I used it at cowboy shoots and nobody knew I was armed until I pulled the guns. I could use a cross or twist draw. The two colts were super secure and layed flat against the body. Sometimes I carried a pair of S&W .44 Russian breaktops in them.This rig is too tight now, I can barely squeeze into it. It's a skeleton vest with two holsters stitch on (see below). I like your ingenuity and look forward to seeing your rig when it's done.


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That's pretty interesting, Bill. If I read you right about flap holsters it seams it would hard to open them under a coat. But let us see the end product. Twenty five years ago i wanted a double shoulder holster vest rig like Wes Hardin supposedly wore so i made one. I used it at cowboy shoots and nobody knew I was armed until I pulled the guns. I could use a cross or twist draw. The two colts were super secure and layed flat against the body. Sometimes I carried a pair of S&W .44 Russian breaktops in them.This rig is too tight now, I can barely squeeze into it. It's a skeleton vest with two holsters stitch on (see below). I like your ingenuity and look forward to seeing your rig when it's done.
That's a nice rig you made there Wyatt (revolvers look real nice too). Very inventive. Looks like it's still in good shape. Have you considered making longer top and bottom straps for it so you could still use it? That looks like all it would need. Since you used it under a coat, no one would see the straps in the back, and maybe you could just splice extensions on the straps using the holes in the straps and lace those old strap holes to the holes in new straps thus extending them. That way you don't have to remove your rivets or post screws that you used to secure the straps to the vest. That's too nice a rig you built to not use it.

I won't be wearing my shoulder holsters under a coat. They will be for open carry only. So the only impediment of opening the flaps would be my armpits. I thought about that, but I think I can drop their straps down enough to get the flaps to open enough under my armpits to get the revolvers out and still have them high enough to not interfere with my cavalry drop leg holsters for my 1911's. I also might be able to mount the holsters a little more forward on the belt so they don't fit right under my armpits but come a little more forward onto my chest to aid the flap opening. Worst case scenario is if it doesn't work to my satisfaction, I can still use them as a twin holster waist belt. Either way it's an inexpensive experiment. Soon as they get here I'll find out and post the results.



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Wyatt, you will have room for more bullets with a new strap that fits. I would have room for at least 3 times as many bullets.
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Bill in Fl., about putting new straps on my rig to make it fit, i looked at that years ago and there was something about the arm holes themselves that would be in the wrong position (too far forward) that prohibited just putting new straps on it. But that was just a thrift shop vest so i could make another one like it.
And I didn't know there was a "new" Rawhide kid. I still have my late 60's Marvel Rawhide kid comic books and he was a lot different. this new guy is very Jonah Hexish.
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My Sam Browne belt and left and right S&W model 1917 holsters and my left handed cavalry 1912 holster for my other 1911 finally arrived on Friday. I had to make a short strap and rob a few studs, a long strap and a buckle from another old Sam Browne belt I had, grind off one copper rivet, punched some holes and placed some of the studs I robbed off the old Sam Browne belt, then stained the whole shoulder rig and holsters with Old English furniture stain so that it matches the color of my 1911's 1912 cavalry drop leg holster and belt very well. Everything worked out perfect. I'm very happy with how it worked out and it's very comfortable. Gets my twin 1917 S&W's up high out of the way of my twin 1911's drop leg cavalry waist rig. It looks even better than the one the "Rawhide kid" had. I'll post some pics here of it all as soon as I take some.



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Here's some pics my wife took today of me with my twin shoulder holster rig I made to hold my 1917 S&W's to match and go along with my waist belt twin holster 1912 cavalry drop leg rig. You can hardly tell from the glare, but the main belt buckle on the shoulder rig has a big "U.S." in it.















I used parts from three Sam Browne belts to make the twin shoulder rig. Brass studs and a small strap buckle from one belt and a long strap and some strap keepers from another belt. Made one short strap front strap and back straps keeper where the "X" on the back goes, myself out of an old leather belt. Dyed everything dark brown using "Old English" stain, to match the already dark brown color of my waist rig. The whole four gun rig is very comfortable. The 1912 cavalry holsters for my two 1911's swivel, so when I sit down they swivel with my legs out of the way. And the 1917 chest holsters stay up out of the way of everything. It is easy to move around and I don't feel constricted at all. Very happy with how the shoulder rig I made came out. Going to get a couple of leather speed loader pouches to hold two extra moon clips that I'll put on the chest rig too.

I'm ready to join Black Jack Pershing to go chase Pancho Villa .

When I was a boy, my neighbor across the street named Jack Hodap (long since deceased) actually was on the expedition chasing Villa and he used to tell me about it. But that's another story.

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I ain't gonna tell a Marine packin 4 45's nuthin'!!!

I may ask with a purty please, but I ain't tellin' you a thing!!
If I was to pack all of that iron, I'd have to go back to my little red wagon idea.
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I think someone needs to write an adventure novel set on the border about 1920 and use you as the main hero in the story.

PS check out the song "Gringo Pistolero" by Allen Wayne Damron, kinda reminds me of the images.here are the lyrics,

GRINGO PISTOLERO
Allen Wayne Damron, Tim Henderson

When the bandit Chico Cano crossed the river at Boquillas,
Stole the young bride of the rancher Juan Otero,
Juan caught up his fastest mare, and up to Marathon he rode,
To hire himself a gringo pistolero.

Send the word along the river; tell it through the borderland,
That the hound of death is howling after Chico Cano's band.
Juan will seal their fate as surely as the rising of the sun,
With the guns of the Gringo Pistolero.

The round hat of a trooper cast a shadow 'cross his eyes,
As he listened to the tale of Juan Otero.
At the name of Chico Cano there could be no talk of price,
Just the Gringo's vow of vengeance: "Yo arrero."

He oiled his big Colt automatics, and by daylight he was gone.
With the coming cold and darkness he rode into Castollon,
And a drunken bandit caught there read the message, "Talk, or die!"
In the eyes of the Gringo Pistolero.

Where the Canyon Colorado twists its way among the rocks
And the ribbon of the sky is long and narrow,
In a jacal of adobe bruised and tied up on the floor
Wept the sweet wife the rancher Juan Otero.

Bandit mirrors in the cliff top flash the message "Now he comes"
Asked the number of his followers, the number of their guns.
The aviso flashed to Chico like the falling of a stone:
"He comes alone, the Gringo Pistolero."

Hidden high above the canyon where the falcon rides the wind,
Chico's best hawkeyed aviso, Juan Romero,
Tucked his mirror in his shirt and gazed with worry towards the rocks
Where he last had seen the Gringo Pistolero.

Put the sights up to eight hundred, hold a yard left for the wind,
And there's one by-god aviso that will never flash again.
Weeping red tears from a third eye that's a gift he cannot feel
From the Springfield of the Gringo Pistolero.

"Chico Cano, you have stole your last damn US dollar bill.
I have come for you and all your companjeros.
You can fight and do your damnedest or just send the lady out,"
Came the echo of the Gringo Pistolero.

Bandit rifles down the canyon to the left and to the right,
Fearful eyes that watch and waited till the falling of the light,
Angry cutthroats who ignore the weeping lady on the floor,
And through the back door came the Gringo Pistolero.

Big Colt autos spitting thunder death at everything that moved,
Flashing lightning in the jacal long and narrow,
Ending hate and greed and cruelty with final flying truth
From the sure hand of the Gringo Pistolero.

One hot and smoking pistol dropped down empty in the dirt
And another flashed like magic from inside the Gringo's shirt,
And the lead storm never stopped 'til there was no one left unhurt,
But the lady and the Gringo Pistolero.

Word is spread to Ojinaga where the Conchos tumble down
And a man's death can come swifter than an arrow,
That although the law can be empty words until justice could be found,
For no border stopped the Gringo Pistolero.

And the old wives tell how Juan's bride came back beautiful and fair,
Lived happily through children and years of silver hair,
But the young girls said that Otero did not treat her well back there
So she left him for the Gringo Pistolero.

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I think someone needs to write an adventure novel set on the border about 1920 and use you as the main hero in the story.

PS check out the song "Gringo Pistolero" by Allan Wayne Dameron, kinda reminds me of the images.
I think we need you on the border now.
Nice job by the way.
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I think we need you on the border now.
Nice job by the way.
Yep that's what we need! "Florida Bill" could keep the North side of the border under control.

I betcha could contract with the Border Patrol.
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I may ask with a purty please, but I ain't tellin' you a thing!!
If I was to pack all of that iron, I'd have to go back to my little red wagon idea.

Lol, Iggy you gave me a good chuckle. Semper fi.


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PS check out the song "Gringo Pistolero" by Allen Wayne Damron, kinda reminds me of the images.
Thanks for the song info and lyrics L&O. I did find the song "Gringo pistolero" online at this link.....

http://archive.org/download/SethAvan...on_Special.mp3


I did a little research and found out that the Gringo pistolero was actually a real person, but the song changed from him rescuing two pilots to him rescuing a damsel in distress. The following is text I put together from several websites.

The song "Gringo pistolero" is based on an actual event from the history of the Big Bend area of Texas. From More Tales of the Big Bend by Elton Miles, " On August 10, 1919, an airplane flew out of Marfa on a regular patrol of the Rio Grande ... Lieutenants H.G. Peterson, pilot and D. H. Davis, observer-gunner got lost, had engine trouble and had to land in Mexico. The Gringo Pistolero actually existed. He was Captain Leonard F. Matlack, a U.S. Army Cavalry officer stationed along the border since 1917 and who is reputed to have carried twin Colt 1911 .45's and who is the Gringo pistolero who rescued the two pilots from Mexican bandits/revolutionaries.

Tim Henderson and Allen Damron take some "poetic license" with historical accuracy for the sake of a good song or "corrido." Gringo Pistolero contains a villain, a hero, a beautiful victim and some of the best combination of English and Spanish.

Another poetic license taken by Tim Henderson and Allen Damron in the writing of Gringo Pistolero was to change the villain from Jesus "Pegleg" Renteria who kidnapped the aviators to Chico Cano. Both were border bandits and revolutionaries of the era in the Big Bend area. Chico had a bigger reputation and was blamed for many exploits for which he was not, in fact, responsible. However, it is known that he and Captain Matlack had interactions, both peaceable and not. Besides, Chico Cano fits a rhyme scheme with more facility than does Pegleg Renteria. Pegleg is very colorful, but it's a bear to rhyme another word with.

For a romantic hook, the two male aviators morphed into a beautiful, young woman. After all, a brave Army officer rescuing a beautiful, young woman is more romantic than a brave Army officer rescuing two other Army officers.

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Well sir, thats a fine job!!Really slick, n of course your good ta go when them Fla. zombies come Mike
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Thanks guys, glad y'all like my shoulder/chest rig. The guy I got the 1917 holsters and my left hand 1911 holster and my Sam Browne belt from has more. So if any of you want to build a chest rig like mine, let me know and I'll post the link to his Sam Browne belts and 1917 left and right holsters. Just be aware you will have to do a little modifying like I did to make it a chest rig.

By the way, he has holsters marked "U.S." or "U.S.M.C." I got the USMC ones for my 1917's and the U.S. marked one for my left hand 1911 holster because I already had a right hand U.S. marked 1911 holster when I bought my cavalry drop leg rig. So I needed to match my 1911 holsters and make them both say "U.S.". Since I didn't already have a 1917 holster, being an old Marine, I got both of them in U.S.M.C.


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Thanks Deacon. But my restored snubby barrel 1917 doesn't yet have a holster home. I'm using my twin shoulder rig for my other two 1917's. I need to get a crossdraw short holster that will fit on the front of my 1912 cavalry waist belt for a home for my restored project 1917 snubby barrel. Then I'll comfortably be able to carry three 1917's and two 1911's, be able to sit down with all them comfortably too. Because of the way I position them on my body so they don't interfere with movement or sitting.


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Bill, I had my doubts when you first proposed your idea, but I have to admit it appears to have turned out well. I’m still a little confused about why you feel the need to be able to carry so much firepower? Was this done as a project just to see if you could make it happen or what? It can't be very comfortable to lug all that stuff around.
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Thanks Old bear. There are several reasons I wanted to do a project like this. It was an interesting concept I wanted to try, saw I could make it from a Sam Browne belt using parts from two other Sam Browne belts and two 1917 holsters. It gets my 1917's up out of the way of anything when I sit or move around and since the 1912 waist rig swivels, it also gets the 1911 holsters out of the way for sitting, stooping, walking, etc. It's actually a very comfortable way to carry four handguns very protected securely in flap holsters. It isn't a fast draw rig. But my 1917 snubby in a short crossdraw holster will be. One fast drawing snubby 1917 and two more full sized 1917's, a hi cap para ordnance and a standard 1911 securely protected and fastened comfortably arranged and that do not interfere with movement of any kind nor sitting. Is it more weight than just a T shirt and jeans? Sure. But I've worn it around to get used to it, and it's comfortable to me. No more than wearing a light backpack.

Once I get a leather mag holder to hold two para ordnance 15 rd mags, that I either buy, or adapt to match my leather 7 rd mag holder for my standard single stack 1911, and also get several leather moon clip holders for my 1917's that I can attach to the straps going over my shoulders, I can go shooting without having to carry much of anything or make multiple trips to get my guns and ammo to where I want to shoot. I just walk up with the guns and ammo on me to where I want to shoot. I can shoot a lot without having to carry around boxes of ammo or guns in cases. My ammo, guns and cases are all on me. If that isn't enough, one little ditty bag will hold more than enough .45 acp ammo since my four gun rig all shoot the same cartridge.

To your question of does that qualify as a "need for that much firepower"?
Does someone have a "need for that much firepower" in their 20 or 30 rd banana mag on their AR or AK? Would there be a question of the "need for that much firepower" for someone carrying a canvas cased AR or AK with six pockets for 30 rd banana magazines on that case? How about someone carrying a M1 Garand cartridge belt with multiple 8 rd en bloc clips pockets on their cartridge belt?
How about someone carrying multiple magazines or speed loaders? Or someone even having a cartridge belt? Would someone have a "need" for that much firepower? When you really think about it, there isn't any difference in reality. It's all about what one perceives as "normal".

Depends on the situation and who you ask. My shoulder/chest and waist rigs work for me.
I find it interesting that some people think it EXTRAORDINARY that I might carry four or five .45 handguns holstered on me. But they wouldn't think anything unusual about someone carrying two holstered handguns and a small backpack or ditty bag, or someone carrying a military rifle with several 30 rd magazines. It really is all about what we perceive as "normal". If we don't see something that often, or aren't exposed to it very often, if most of our peers don't do it, then some people perceive when they DO see it, as....not "normal". Some will even comment how they don't think it's normal, poke fun or even suggest wearing a cape with it. But if what that person does that was perceived as not "normal" happens to catch on and become the norm, then everyone will say they were ahead of their time rather than they weren't doing something "normal". It's all about perception and some people's inability to see outside of the box or to really look at functionality and reality of a rig. It's comfortable and works for me. Maybe it wouldn't for someone else. But would that someone else wear perhaps a single holster and a canteen and backpack? There's no difference, they all add up to weight. It's just what people perceive as "normal" that dictates in their minds what is normal to them. I never cared about following the crowd. If I like something that I find to be functional for me, I don't care if others perceive it as "normal" or not.

But since many people have regularly seen people carrying around heavy back packs and cartridge belts and 30 rd magazines, then they think that's normal but for some reason they have a problem perceiving my double waist and double chest rig as "normal". It's all about whether a person can think "outside the box" of what they usually perceive as "normal" or not.



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