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Default More Bucheimer numbers

More numbers added to the fit charts.

77 = Walther PPK

Bucheimer Hank Sloan holster 1971

HS1 = S&W J Chief Special, Charter Arms 2”
HS2 = Colt D Det. Special, Cobra 2”
HS3 = S&W M&P, Colt OP 2”
HS4 = S&W J Chief Special, Charter Arms 3”
HS5 = Colt Detective Special 3”
HS6 = S&W N .357, Colt Python 4”
HS7 = S&W M&P, Colt OP, Colt .357 4”
HS8 = S&W M&P, Colt OP 5”
HS9 = S&W M&P, Colt OP 6”
HS10 = Colt Python, S&W .357 2 ½”



Bucheimer Western style drop loop holsters

Model prefix – size number 1-9
1 = Colt Scout, Ruger, Hi-Standard .22 4 Ύ”
2 = H&R, Ruger, Hi-Standard .22 5 ½”
3 = Ruger BKH, Colt SAA 4 Ύ” 5 ½”
4 = Ruger BKH, Colt SAA 7 ½”
5 = Ruger BKH .44 6 ½” 7 ½”
6 = Ruger Bearcat .22
7 = Ruger, Colt New Frontier 5 ½” 6 ½”
8 = Ruger 9 ½”
9 = Colt, Hi-Standard Buntline .22 9 ½”


Bucheimer - another odd size system

Model prefix – size number
15 = S&W Chief Special 2”
25 = Colt Python 2 ½”
30 = Heavy Frame Magnum 2”, 2 ½”
35 = 3”
42 = Heavy Frame Magnum 4”
45 = 4”

Bucheimer Federal Man

200 = Colt Det Spec Cobra 2”
201 = Colt Det Spec Cobra 3”
205 = Colt Diamondback 2 ½”
210 = Colt Diamondback 4”
215 = Colt Python (2 ½”)
220 = Colt Python, Trooper MK III 4”
225 = Colt OP, MK III
230 = Colt Police Positive 4”

300 = S&W Chief, Charter Arms 2”
301 = S&W Chief, Charter Arms 3”
305 = S&W Regulation Police 4”
310 = S&W Mdl. 19 2 ½”
315 = S&W Mdl. 10,12,15 2”
320 = S&W Mdl. 10, 12, 15 4”
325 = S&W Mdl. 15, 19 4”
330 = S&W Mdl. 57, 58, 28, 29 4”

250 = Colt Commander
255 = Colt 45 Gov’t, 38 Super
355 = S&W Mdl. 39
400 = Browning High Power
450 = Walther P38
455 = Walther PPKS



A large size chart for the Bucheimer Pacemaker holster appears to be similar to the Perfect Fit chart. No time for that now..... Edit - similar but not exactly the same.
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Default Bucheimer Concealer as used by FBI

The owner of these two gave me permission to use his pictures ...

For fans of the Bucheimer Concealer holster, two holsters in the FBI style - with covered trigger and front slot, as issued with the 3 inch S&W Mdl. 13 and as worn by Jodie in The Silence of the Lambs. Silence of the Lambs, The - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

I read the model/size stamping as 01 604 15 Patent 4,062,481

A second holster in poorer condition but with a better view of the front slot.

Patent 4,062,481 Patent US4062481 - Pistol holster - Google Patents Inventor Earl J. Clark, Tandy Brands.


Disclosed herein is a holster for pistols having an improved belt loop assembly. A pair of belt loop assemblies are connected to opposite sides of the gun receiving pocket. Each assembly has an inner piece of holster material containing a slot for the reception of a belt. An outer piece free of slots is joined to the inner piece at the top and bottom, defining a belt receiving opening on the outer edge in communication with the adjacent slot.
A pin depends from the loop that fastens the pistol in the holster for locking shrouded revolvers in place (Item #45 in the patent drawing.)

The application gives reference to one holster of this type is described in U.S. Pat. No. 3,731,858, issued to [Roy] Baker on May 8, 1973.

Sorry, no size chart. update:
01 indicates the product is a holster
604 is the holster model number
16 is the size reference, generally following other Bucheimer numbers.
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Here are a couple of Bucheimer "semi-shoulder" holsters, one with the usual spring type holster, and one with the less common holster, which is more of a traditional pouch type holster.

Also, here is my Buchemier FBI holster, together with the Buchemier 2x2x2 pouch issued to agents at the time. The Model 13 is property of a friend, but we got together for a photo shoot!

Finally, here is an article on the FBI Model 13 from 1982.

Excellent thread!!!
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Prompted by canoeguy, who I hope will add his pictures: The Bucheimer-Clark Plainsman model number 36 front welt holster.
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Having trouble figuring this one out, can anyone help on what fits it? Marking is 2604W, see picture, I get the W is for basket weave
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Chad's picture showing the adjustable strap would suggest a universal fit holster - or at least a multi-fit holster. Or - 4 inch J frame.

Need info on Bucheimer holsters please.

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In any case, it's a good addition to the thread.

update: A similar holster with the marking 01-260LW-x turned up in a 2018 post.

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Added a few more scrounged numbers to the master list.


Bucheimer Federal Man 60’s

200 = Colt D Det. Spec Cobra 2”
210 = Colt D Marshal 2” High Standard 2 ½”
440 = Colt D Det. Spec Cobra 3”

290 = Colt I .357 Python 2 ½”
490 = Colt I .357 Python 4”
690 = Colt I .357 Python 6”
690 = Colt I .38 Officers Model 6”

400 = Colt I Marshal, Hi Standard 4”
500 = Colt I Marshal 5”
600 = Colt I Marshal, Hi Standard 6”

440 = Colt D Police Positive 4”
540 = Colt D Police Positive 5”
640 = Colt D Police Positive 6”

410 = Colt Scout 4 Ύ”
570 = Colt SAA 5 ½”

230 = S&W J Chief, Kit Gun 2”
330 = S&W J Chief, Kit Gun 3” 3 ½”

250 = S&W K Mdl. 10 2”
350 = S&W K Mdl. 10 4”
450 = S&W K Mdl. 15, 19 4”
650 = S&W K Mdl. 14, 19 6”
830 = S&W N .357 8 3/8”

420 = S&W N .357, 1950 3 ½” 4”
520 = S&W N .357, 1950 5”
620 = S&W N .357, 1950 6” 6 ½”
610 = S&W N Mdl. 29 6 ½”

470 = Ruger .22 Single Six 4 5/8”
560 = Ruger .22 SS, Hi Standard Dbl. 9 5 ½”
580 = Ruger .22 Bearcat
670 = Ruger .22 Magnum SS 6 ½”
1410 = Ruger .357 BH 4 5/8”
1640 = Ruger .44 Mag. 6 ½”

280 = H&R
630 = H&R 2 ½”
680 = H&R 6”
660 = H&R 4”
710 = H&R 999

Some of these were blurred, so I can't be sure on them.

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Default Bucheimer Clark Co. B3LW-52

GREAT INFO here.

Wanted to show you a holster, see Title, I acquired in 80s when I got a M10.

It does not have belt loops or a clip. It slides over a belt. It is right handed with a slight forward tilt. My M642 is a bit large for it, so maybe for .32?

Ideas welcome. Thanks!
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Well, the chart shows the number 52 is for either a S&W 2½ inch Combat Magnum or a 5 inch N frame. Same for variations 152 or 520.

Not helpful if your J frame is too big.

Goes to show how many gaps still exist in the list.
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Bucheimer #B725 ?
"B" is black color
"725" ??
**this is a spring cross draw 2"
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Bucheimer marketed - Salinas Industries made [ht linde] - may be the same as the Feather Touch. 1964. Contemporary tests graded it down for retention when dropped, but a perfectly serviceable loader. Pictures by Linde







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Hello all,
O.K just back from a flea market with a new treasure! The only problem is it's not in any of the catalogs???? This is an early Bucheimer with the large "b" and "Since 1884"........plus the # 43. The catalog lists the 43 as being for a .38 Colt snub ( I am trying to remember???). I am adding photos to show my Mod 60 stainless and a NAA .22 LR for comparison. I thought when I first saw this it was a sheath for a pair of 6" cutters, but when I turned it over and saw the old Bucheimer mark I bought it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and God bless. cordell
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Holder for a ticket punch, etc.

P.S. Still a neat item. Can't be many of them out there.

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SG-688, Thank you this makes sense. Take care and God bless you and yours. cordell
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Here's one I can't figure out....it's a drop loop holster for a single action, right hand, AAL-5. Can anyone identify what it is supposed to fit?
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AAL-5 = Ruger Blackhawk .44 6 ½” 7 ½”

Bucheimer Western style drop loop holsters

Model prefix – size number 1-9

1 = Colt Scout, Ruger, Hi-Standard .22 4 Ύ”
2 = H&R, Ruger, Hi-Standard .22 5 ½”
3 = Ruger BKH, Colt SAA 4 Ύ” 5 ½”
4 = Ruger BKH, Colt SAA 7 ½”
5 = Ruger BKH .44 6 ½” 7 ½”
6 = Ruger Bearcat .22
7 = Ruger, Colt New Frontier 5 ½” 6 ½”
8 = Ruger 9 ½”
9 = Colt, Hi-Standard Buntline .22 9 ½”
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Thanks for the clarification! I just bought a Ruger 3 screw Flat Top .44 so that could work out!!
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this is great info. thanks. lee
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As mentioned elsewhere: This thread needs more shoulder holster pictures.
Bucheimer, Clark and Bucheimer-Clark made an amazing variety of shoulder holsters styles. And then there's the one some guy wore in a movie...
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As mentioned elsewhere: This thread needs more shoulder holster pictures.
Bucheimer, Clark and Bucheimer-Clark made an amazing variety of shoulder holsters styles. And then there's the one some guy wore in a movie...
Here are a few that are in my photo files:

Bucheimer and Bucheimer-Clark holster fit charts - 1953-1975-clark-shoulder-10-jpg

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Two of them are Clark's. Do we know for certain when Clark Holster became Bucheimer-Clark, which stayed in Los Angeles while J.M. Bucheimer continued in Maryland? I have roughly dated that as 1962 in my head. . ..
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I picked up this Bucheimer 189-42 on eBay Australia for about $20 AU. The seller didn't have much in the description as to what revolver it would fit. I intended to use it for my S&W Model 15-2 when competing in a Combined Services Match that is shot out here. It seems a little lose and checking the charts, 42 appears to be for a Colt Detective Special or a S&W M28 Highway Patrol. Can anyone confirm this for me please? 189 does not appear on the charts also. Why is this? Many thanks. Moo Moo
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I'd bet on the N frame for the 189-42. As stated .. the list is incomplete.


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... Do we know for certain when Clark Holster became Bucheimer-Clark, which stayed in Los Angeles while J.M. Bucheimer continued in Maryland? I have roughly dated that as 1962 in my head. . ..
In a Doh! moment I thought to check the company lists in the back of every Gun Digest. My oldest, the 1962 Gun Digest, lists Bucheimer - Clark as a maker. Since each GD comes out the year before the title date, that's 1961.

My 1953 digital copy doesn't show Clark at all, illustrating that GD is not perfectly inclusive or always accurate.
The 1953 list is interesting. Roseberry???

HOLSTERS AND LEATHER GOODS
Brauer Bros. Mfg. Co., Des Moines, Iowa
J. M. Bucheimer Co., Towson 4, Maryland
Colorado Saddlery Co., 1527 18th St., Denver 2, Cob.
Firearms International, Washington, D.C.
Folsom Arms Co., Inc., 312 Broadway, New York, N.Y.
Capt. A. H. Hardy, 513 N. Arden Dr., Beverly hills, Calif.
H. H. Heiser Saddlery Co., 1024 Cherokee St., Denver, Cob..
George Lawrence Co., Portland, Ore.
J. H. Martin, Calhoun City, Miss.
S. D. Myres Saddlery Co., El Paso, Tex.
Red head Brand Co., Chicago 41, 111.
R. E. Roseberry, 810 W. 38th St., Anderson, Ind.
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I picked up this Bucheimer 189-42 on eBay Australia for about $20 AU. The seller didn't have much in the description as to what revolver it would fit. I intended to use it for my S&W Model 15-2 when competing in a Combined Services Match that is shot out here. It seems a little lose and checking the charts, 42 appears to be for a Colt Detective Special or a S&W M28 Highway Patrol. Can anyone confirm this for me please? 189 does not appear on the charts also. Why is this? Many thanks. Moo Moo
N frame (such as the old M28) for sure with the corroborating info of the K frame being a bit loose. Even the scale of all the bits says N frame :-)
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In a Doh! moment I thought to check the company lists in the back of every Gun Digest. My oldest, the 1962 Gun Digest, lists Bucheimer - Clark as a maker. Since each GD comes out the year before the title date, that's 1961.
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Linde dusted off his 1961 dated (1960 pub.) Gun Digest - the 15th Anniversary DeLuxe Edition - and found the same information in the company name appendix.

J. M. Bucheimer Co (Frederick, Maryland)

Bucheimer-Clark Corp, 6314 S. Broadway, Los Angeles 3, California.

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I did a simple search for California corporation records.
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| California Secretary of State

C0368363 BUCHEIMER-CLARK CORP.

Registration 2-5-1959 Dissolution 3-5-1970
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Bucheimer - Clark J. M. Bucheimer Company - Company Profile

J. M. Bucheimer Company, Which Will Do Business In California As Bucheimer - Clark filed as a Statement & Designation By Foreign Corporation in the State of California and is no longer active. This corporate entity was filed on Thursday, April 9, 1970 , according to public records filed with California Secretary of State.

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I recently received a Bucheimer BPL-29 holster and was wondering if anyone knew what it fits. I know it was my grandfathers and he was in various areas of federal law enforcement and military throughout the 50's-70's. Any help identifying it's fitment would be greatly appreciated.
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Need a little help. I have a Bucheimer Holster with B.01.112,14 on the back. The belt loop is riveted in. It is a duty style (I think) Am I reading right that it would be for "COLT AUTOMATICS - .32 or .380 cal." and "S&W Military & Police, Combat Master 4” because the 112 and 14 have a comma between them. What does the 01 stand for? I have another that is a 2 slot pancake style with B-01-004-34 It has Pat. No. 4.062.481. Any idea where it falls in these lists? The fellow I got it from said it fit 4 inch S&W K frames. Too bad Photobucket messed up most of the attached catalog pages.
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B for black. The rest is always guessing with Bucheimer.
The next 5 digits for the holster model number.
The last 2 digits for the handgun size.

14 and 34 are both codes for 4 inch K frames.

Dunno on the BPL.

Mike Priwer still has most of the basic Bucheimer-Clark catalog in one of his albums. Thanks Mike!!

http://smith-wessonforum.com/members...k-leather.html
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I stumbled upon this thread just now. Thanks for the great share on this. Can you restore the photo-bucket blocked images ?

Great research.
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This is a folded one page insert from a Bucheimer 1961 catalog detailing the Pacemaker line of holsters. The fit chart is on the back. The catalog was in an inventory I bought of Evaluators Ltd. material.
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I've combined the 1961 and 1971 Pacemaker lists so as to be searchable with notations on the major differences. Most are obvious, such as Dan Wesson didn't exist in 1961 and Whitney was no longer in 1971. Close, but not quite the same as the Perfect Fit list.

1971 also has the very slightly different list for the lined Pacemaker.

I'm updating the major list for arrangement and format. PDF's attached, as always.


Bucheimer Pacemaker fit chart 1961 & 1971 w/ notations

PM 1 = S&W Chiefs Spec., Terrier, Hand Ejector, Kit Gun 2”, Charter 2”

PM 1 = S&W Chiefs Spec., Terrier, Hand Ejector, Kit Gun 2”,
H&R 922, 929, Bantam 2 ½”, IJ 55, 57, 2 ½ “ (1961)

PM 2 = Colt Det. Spec., Cobra, Agent 2” (1971)
H&R 922, 929, 622, 900, 732, 733 925, Bantam 2 ½”, IJ 55, 57, 2 ½ “

PM 3 = S&W Mil. & Pol. 2”, S&W Mdl. 15 2”, Colt Off. Pol. 2”

PM 4 = Colt Pol. ***. Spec., Cobra, 4”, Courier 3”

PM 5 = S&W Kit Gun 3½”, 4”, Hand Ejector, Reg. Pol., Charter 3”
H&R 922, 732, 632, 622, 733, 900, 929, 632 4”

PM 6 = Colt Police Positive Special 5”

PM 7 = Colt O.P. 6”, S&W M&P 6”

PM 8 = H&R 999, 922, 939, 929, 632, 900, 622 6”, IJ 55,57, 6”

PM 9 = Colt Off. Pol., MKIII, Diamondback, Trooper, Marshall, 4”
S&W M&P, Combat, Combat Mag. 4”

PM 10 = S&W .357 Mag. 3½”, Hwy. Patrolman, .41 Mag., 4”,
Colt Python 4”, Dan Wesson D11 4”

PM 11 = S&W .357 Mag. 5”

PM 12 = Colt Off. Pol., 5”, S&W M&P, 5”

PM 13 = Colt Off. Pol., S&W M&P, K22, K32, K38 6”

PM 14 = Colt Off. Pol., MKIII, Diamondback, Python, Off. Mod. Match., 6”

PM 15 = S&W .357 Mag., Hwy. Patrol., .41 Mag., Combat Mag. 6”
Dan Wesson D11 6”, New Service, Webley, Hvy. Duty 6” 6 ½”

PM 16 = Hi Standard Sentinel 2 3/8”, 3”

PM 17 = Hi Standard Sentinel 4”

PM 18 = Hi Standard Sentinel 6”, H&R 999 6”

PM 19 = Colt Single Action Army, 4 Ύ”, Ruger Blackhawk .356, .41 4 5/8”

PM 20 = Colt Scout 4 ½”, Hi Standard Natchez, Dakota

PM 21 = Colt Scout Buntline, 9”

PM 22 = Hi Standard Double Nine (99) 5 ½”, Hawes Western Marshal

PM 23 = Colt Single Action Army, 5 ½”, Ruger Single Six 5 ½”

PM 24 = Col Single Action 7 ½”, Ruger Blackhawk 7 ½”

PM 25 = Colt Buntline Special .45 Cal., 12”

PM 26 = Ruger Bear Cat

PM 27 = Ruger Single Six 9 ½”, Hi Standard Longhorn 9 ½”

PM 28 = Ruger Blackhawk .357, .41, .44 6 ½”

PM 29 = Colt New Frontier SAA, Ruger Blackhawk 7 ½”

PM 30 = Ruger Blackhawk 10” (1961 only)

PM 31 = Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Mag, .30 Carbine 7 ½”

PM 32 = Foreign .25 Cal. Automatics

PM 33 = Colt .25 Cal. Auto

PM 34 = Colt .32, .380 Auto, Walther PP Auto

PM 35 = Colt .45, .38 Super, Commander, Browning 9 mm

PM 36 = Colt Woodsman, Target, Sport, Challenger, Huntsman, 4 ½”

PM 37 = Colt Woodsman, Target, Sport, Challenger, Huntsman, 6”

PM 38 = Colt Match Target Woodsman, 4 ½”

PM 39 = Colt Match Target Woodsman, 6”

PM 40 = High Standard Automatics, 4 ½”, Ruger Standard 4 Ύ”
Whitney Wolverine .22 Auto (1961)

PM 41 = High Standard Automatics, 6 Ύ”. Ruger Standard 6”

PM 42 = Ruger Mark I Target 5 ½”

PM 43 = Ruger Mark I Target 6 7/8”

PM 44 = Stoeger Luger .22, Luger 9 mm 4 Ύ”

PM 45 = Walther P 38

PM 46 = S&W 9 mm Auto.

PM 47 = Colt gold Cup Auto.

PM 48 = S&W Model 41 .22 Auto. 7 3/8”

PM 49 = S&W .357, .41, .44 Mag. 8 3/8”

PM 50 = S&W K22, K22 .22 Mag., K38 8 3/8”

PM 51 = S&W Model 41 5 ½”

PM 52 = Hi Standard Auto. 5 ½”

PM 53 = Colt Diamondback 2 ½”, S&W Combat Master. 2 ½”

PM 54 = Colt Python 2 ½”, S&W Combat Mag. 2 1/2”
Dan Wesson D11 2 1/2”



Bucheimer Pacemaker Suede Lined fit chart 1971


PML 1 = S&W Chiefs Spec., Terrier, Hand Ejector, Kit Gun 2”, Charter 2”

PML 2 = Colt Det. Spec., Cobra, Agent 2”

PML 9 = Colt Off. Pol., MKIII, Diamondback, Trooper, Marshall, 4”
S&W M&P, Combat 4”

PML 10 = S&W .357 Mag. 3½”, Hwy. Patrolman, .41 Mag., 4”,
Colt Python 4”, Dan Wesson D11 4”

PML 13 = Colt Off. Pol., S&W M&P 6”

PML 14 = Colt Off. Pol., MKIII, Diamondback, Python, Off. Mod. Match., 6”

PML 15 = S&W .357 Mag., Hwy. Patrol., .41 Mag., Combat Mag. 6”

PML 19 = Colt Scout 4 ½”, Hi Standard Double 9, Dakota, Hawes Western Marshal

PML 23 = Colt Single Action Army, 5 ½”, Ruger Single Six 5 ½”

PML 32 = Foreign .25 Cal. Automatics

PML 33 = Colt .25 Cal. Auto

PML 34 = Colt .32, .380 Auto, Walther PP Auto

PML 35 = Colt .45, .38 Super, Commander, Browning 9 mm

PML 36 = Colt Woodsman, Target, Sport, Challenger, Huntsman, 4 ½”

PML 37 = Colt Woodsman, Target, Sport, Challenger, Huntsman, 6”

PML 38 = Colt Match Target Woodsman, 4 ½”

PML 39 = Colt Match Target Woodsman, 6”

PML 40 = High Standard Automatics, 4 ½”, Ruger Standard 4 Ύ”

PML 41 = High Standard Automatics, 6 Ύ”. Ruger Standard 6”

PML 42 = Ruger Mark I Target 5 ½”

PML 43 = Ruger Mark I Target 6 7/8”

PML 44 = Stoeger Luger .22, Luger 9 mm 4 Ύ”

PML 45 = Walther P 38

PML 46 = S&W 9 mm Auto.

PML 53 = Colt Diamondback 2 ½”, S&W Combat Master. 2 ½”

PML 54 = Colt Python 2 ½”, S&W Combat Mag. 2 1/2”
Dan Wesson D11 2 1/2”



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Hi everybody,

I found this thread searchin' in google for "Bucheimer BHS-7", this guy here







(the gun in it is just a test, I don't believe it is the gun the holster is made for).

A real gold mine of information here, but by using ctrl + F in this thread I had no hits. I buy and sell old holsters for hobby, and it is always helpful for collectors/buyers whe I can state exactly the suitability of my items. Anyone know something about this one?
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That’s a Bucheimer made Hank Sloan model holster. Size 7 is for 4” medium frame revolvers such as the S&W Combat Masterpiece revolvers. The catalog lists the size as follows:
HS7 = S&W M&P, Colt OP, Colt .357 4”
The screw adjusts the welt and consequently the tension.
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THX Turnerriver for the very valuable information!
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Thank you all who have contributed to Bucheimer's fit charts.
It has enabled me to find the perfect fit for this Bucheimer-Clark
Patrolman rig. The rig is 37A-34-72W (So the size is 34)
The perfect fit is K38 "Masterpiece". My model 67 Masterpiece is
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From another thread in regards to the late Bucheimer system with numbers and dashes, such as 01-106-16.

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I found the requested holster in a 1985-6 Bucheimer catalog ... A quick scan of the price list leads me to believe that --

01 means it’s a holster. Belts are 02, clubs and saps are 03, cartridge and clip carriers are 04

The next number is the holster type ...

The last number is listed as the model number but is really the size code...

Bucheimer had 102 years to figure this system out according to the catalog cover “Since 1884”.
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