Hard to tell, 'cause on the pics there's no size reference but my humble guess is a good fit for a snubnose such as a S&W 36/60
I was going by the number 3 but it looks more like a revolver holster. I’ll stick a snub or two in there when I get home and see if anything fits. I’ll post a picture with one for size reference.
I was going by the number 3 but it looks more like a revolver holster. I’ll stick a snub or two in there when I get home and see if anything fits. I’ll post a picture with one for size reference.
It is an 11. I guess I was paying attention to the 3 before the dash and not the 11. I was also not paying attention to the shape, which would have obviously told me it’s for a revolver. I got it thrown in for free in a deal for a K frame so I didn’t really pay much attention. I tried a Colt Detective Special, .32 Colt, and it fit well enough. I also tried a S&W 940 and it wouldn’t snap due to the shrouded hammer. Here is a picture of an Airweight. Thanks for the help. Looks like a score for me.
The basic holster would appear to be the original Guardian thumb break in the swivel version shown in the 1955 catalog page from Turneriver with a swivel hood as pictured on this odd Federal Man holster.
(A later belt holster also bore the name Guardian.)
I think John and Red had comments about the hood on the Federal Man when that popped up ... but I don't remember what was said.
The hood might be an add-on. For sure the tie down strap is not original.
Fit chart size number 42 is either a Colt Detective Special or a S&W N frame. I'd go with N frame on this one. HD may indicate .38-44 Heavy Duty, but that's guessing.
I've got a mystery one here: a CL 53 which is not listed on any of the above lists. it fits a 4" K M&P or CMP. don't know if it's a mis-stamp or what. pics attached. lee
this time I stumbled on a kinda weird paddle thing, and I could neither find info in this thread nor a gun that fits in. Couple of pics to help my question:
It's quite a well-known model, intended to be worn so high on a belt that it's a 'semi shoulder holster'. Obviously for a DA revolver and I'd expect a small frame. J.M. Bucheimer had different 'will fit' charts for every model!
smith (6).jpg This is the S&W version and likely was actually made for them by JMB
It's quite a well-known model, intended to be worn so high on a belt that it's a 'semi shoulder holster'. Obviously for a DA revolver and I'd expect a small frame. J.M. Bucheimer had different 'will fit' charts for every model!
Attachment 412013 This is the S&W version and likely was actually made for them by JMB
Here I am again, and again I can't find the model simply typing it in as a search key, so I give you a couple of pictures of the last holster I stumbled upon...here:
the 4" Python seems to fit well, though I suspect the holster is designed not only for a 4"- barrel since there is some room left inside but also for other guns...if anyone can help I'll be glad as usual.
Sir, great timing on your thread for I picked up one for a Model 36 S&W yesterday! Only I cannot find the same numbers on your posting. This one is a beautiful basket weave for a 2 inch chief special. Spring holster with the Marshal logo on the top, logo next, and below that is the numbers 31-42W. Then a patent number under that. The 36 dates as far as I can tell to 1968. Hope this fill in a gap somewhere. Best regards. The toolman.
I went through all the charts and couldn't find any of the codes for my holster. It is marked B 01 006 14 C - can you tell me what it would fit? Many thanks in advance!
A black model 650 holster without a fit designation. My chart doesn't have a listing for Sig in any case.
And what does the "E" designate??? I don't think we've seen an "E" before.
Is the holster designed to ride horizontally - a driver's holster - or was the loop intended to slide on a suspender or some such item? Oh, wait. I think now that I see a 4-way belt loop: vertical or horizontal.
Does the snap at the top match the other side to make a safety strap?
Wild guess: The top profile suggests German police holsters, and that's where you are, so perhaps a prototype for the German police, like the previous Steyr holster.
A black model 650 holster without a fit designation. My chart doesn't have a listing for Sig in any case.
And what does the "E" designate??? I don't think we've seen an "E" before.
Is the holster designed to ride horizontally - a driver's holster - or was the loop intended to slide on a suspender or some such item? Oh, wait. I think now that I see a 4-way belt loop: vertical or horizontal.
Does the snap at the top match the other side to make a safety strap?
Wild guess: The top profile suggests German police holsters, and that's where you are, so perhaps a prototype for the German police, like the previous Steyr holster.
Thank you, I somehow smelled I had to do with something kinda weird
It actually comes from a stock I bought from a retired German officer, I could have asked him but I lost contact.
And yes, the snap at the top does match either way. Definitely not intended as a shoulder holster though.
The holster I just bought is a used Bucheimer Guardsman, Model B77-46W. Can anyone tell me how old and what gun that one was made for? My 6" 686 fits great! The 12 ammo loops are for .357/38
It's all very muddled, even after looking for corporate records. Red has an as-much-as-we-know summary in one of his recent blog entries. This is discussed in a couple of previous entries.
J. M. Bucheimer Co (Frederick, Maryland)
An old line company dating to the turn of the century (that other one) as a holster company. Bucheimer ended in the late 1980's, acknowledging guesswork because of our lack of official records.
Bucheimer-Clark Corp, 6314 S. Broadway, Los Angeles 3, California.
A merger of Bucheimer and the LA based Clark holster company - dating to about 1930 - incorporated in 1959. Dissolved in 1970 when both came under the Tandy corporation. The last B-C catalog we have is dated 1978.
Some of us consider B-C to have had a slightly higher quality product, in general, as also the Clark product line. Original owner Ed Clark patented a spring retention holster (Berns-Martin had to acknowledge the Clark patent). Both Ed and son Earl were prolific designers with Earl later working for Safariland. Bucheimer had some top designers - Kippen - on payroll too, but I'm a fan of Clark, so I'll emphasize them.
And then there were holsters marked Thompson, Thompson-Clark and Clark (Anaheim) using the B-C designs. Red was acquainted with Thompson as an LA company attempting inroads into the 70's police market. Then holsters from the other two have popped up recently. Dunno...
An ad from 1976 pops a surprise in the BTW holster touted for having belt loops for 2 1/2 inch and 1 3/4 inch belts so that one holster could be used for on and off duty - presumably by police officers.
The holster appears to be the same as the wrap-around front-welt Plainsman with an added strap. Not pictured, so we don't know how the dual loops were managed.
Of course, the big question is what does BTW stand for. ???
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Update October, 2021 with information from a 1976 catalog showing the BT Series of holsters with the BTW now labeled BT.
Opinions vary as to the significance of BT.
The other BT holsters share lines with the known Thompson holsters, so my guess is B for Bucheimer and T for Thompson. YMMV.
Last edited by SG-688; 10-18-2021 at 09:28 PM.
Reason: update
This recently surfaced holster in the Bucheimer pattern like the Plainsman with the basketweave pattern like the Thompson/Clark Annaheim/Thompson-Clark holsters is marked Clark Coachella, CA with the stagecoach T stamp.
Coachella, CA might explain the coach mark.
The new information from Susan Clark and the discovery of Wray and Jon Thompson in the management of Tandy leather lead to guessing that one or both of them are the Thompson in the Thompson/Clark holsters. An inquiry with the Thompson family is pending.
Red has more on his Holstory blog.
Edit to add that Red has quibbled with my Clark & Thompson summary, but I was trying to simplify the story.
This one is marked BTD-45S. BTD model which fits with the BTW designation in the ad posted above, and 45S = .45 auto with swivel or perhaps short .45 since this fits a Commander.
Pictures attached. The 2 photos of the T Coach stamp are the same stamp with varied lighting in an attempt for maximum clarity.
I have a Federal Man Bucheimer holster I got of fleabay- its likely a 1960s built rig. The leather is astonishingly thick and strong, its supposed to fit a Commander but its super tight..my circa 2010 Commander with the bigger front sight is a snug as heck fit.*
It seems the old holster got a lot of use from the old owner daily carry perhaps? Its worn- but its still tight and strong, model number lettering is worn off of the bottom of the belt loop strap. "Pat. Pending" stamped on the upper end of the thumb release "Bucheimer made since 1884" on the metal snap itself.
Thanks again for the information-
*Addendum: was able to bring the model number up seems to be "450" for a Smith K frame or a Walther P38!? marked as "Commander" with photos on fleabay- no wonder its a bad fit duh buyer beware! lol
Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 01-15-2021 at 06:21 PM.
I have a Federal Man Bucheimer holster I got of fleabay- its likely a 1960s built rig. The leather is astonishingly thick and strong, its supposed to fit a Commander but its super tight..my circa 2010 Commander with the bigger front sight is a snug as heck fit.*
It seems the old holster got a lot of use from the old owner daily carry perhaps? Its worn- but its still tight and strong, model number lettering is worn off of the bottom of the belt loop strap. "Pat. Pending" stamped on the upper end of the thumb release "Bucheimer made since 1884" on the metal snap itself.
Thanks again for the information-
*Addendum: was able to bring the model number up seems to be "450" for a Smith K frame or a Walther P38!? marked as "Commander" with photos on fleabay- no wonder its a bad fit duh buyer beware! lol
Gotta pic? I may can help, I've been handling quite a few fedman holsters last couple years
Here is mine !
It carried my duty 3" S&W mod 13 for more than ten years, before we changed for the SIG PRO 2022 in 9 mm .
I really appreciated the extreme quality of the leather, and it allowed a very fast draw !
And I even wonder if it was not designed for a crossdraw either ...
I don't know the name of model, but the reference stamped at the rear side is : B6 - H3.
Have an idea about it ?
they are approx. 4 x 2,5", look like mag pouches for 45 ACP but seem to me to be a bit too short...anyone know better? I'd appreciate
Standard USAF issue dump pouches for .38 Special Ball ammunition. USAF Security Police were once armed with S&W Model 15 revolvers as standard issue.
Gary
Standard USAF issue dump pouches for .38 Special Ball ammunition. USAF Security Police were once armed with S&W Model 15 revolvers as standard issue.
Gary
Thank you, I somehow smelled I had to do with something kinda weird
It actually comes from a stock I bought from a retired German officer, I could have asked him but I lost contact.
And yes, the snap at the top does match either way. Definitely not intended as a shoulder holster though.
Looks very much like the brown leather W German police Sig P-6 shoulder holsters without the shoulder harness and strap. Possible submission for holster trials by Bucheimer? Could swear I saw a Bucheimer Sig P-220 holster on auction site some time ago.
Around 1982 I purchased a Bucheimer Clarke Should Holster model 15E-16. I purchased it for a S & W 357 Magnum. The holster is clearly marked 15E-16, but I cannot find any information, including this and other forums, that have this model number. Specifically, I am wondering what the E indicates? I found some lists that included an F in the model number. I appreciate any information you can provide. Thanks in advance.
Dave Baird - Take a look at -db- post #13 on page 1. According to his
logic, which I have always found to be right on, your BC 18-11 should
fit a 2" S&W Chief Special or Terrier.
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