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Old 04-20-2016, 08:09 PM
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Occasional-
occurring or appearing at irregular or infrequent intervals; occurring now and then:
an occasional headache.

Last year we had a problem on this forum with self and proxy promotion
of for sale leather goods made by forum members. It got way out of hand, some makers were asking people to post the holsters they purchased.
We had some enjoyable threads today including a new holster by an old familiar maker, a piece of fine historical leather from a well established professional and a rig that contained old and new elements. Our esteemed elder statesmen weighed in, discussion ensued, so far so good.
I moderate this forum at the request of the owner-it's his forum, I work for him. I do it because I get a lot out of it, always have, whether I'm a moderator or not.
He has used the word "occasional" with me, a definition is above.
No accident that the example refers to a headache.
We don't mind occasional posts featuring new items made by forum members, whether for sale or not. There are still locations on the larger forum where a maker can post dozens of photos and sell dozens of holsters-but not on the Gun Leather forum. Occasional-follow that simple guide and all will be well. Please don't push it, please use discretion, please only post occasionally about member made holsters purchased or available.
Don't let this get out of hand or we'll be more trouble than we're worth.
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Generally the appeal of the Smith forum is historical? So a Shield gets attention but it's knowing more about Registered Mags that fulfills :-)

So I'm thinking Dead Poets Only, as to holster makers. Company has to be out of business, and like getting on a stamp, not a living person (a dead poet).

Easy to enforce, by deleting a thread about the products of a living maker. Would be "a point of difference" for the Forum, as no others use this benchmark.

I suggest this as a living maker, and it wouldn't bother me any to have such a rule.
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Generally the appeal of the Smith forum is historical? So a Shield gets attention but it's knowing more about Registered Mags that fulfills :-)

So I'm thinking Dead Poets Only, as to holster makers. Company has to be out of business, and like getting on a stamp, not a living person (a dead poet).

Easy to enforce, by deleting a thread about the products of a living maker. Would be "a point of difference" for the Forum, as no others use this benchmark.

I suggest this as a living maker, and it wouldn't bother me any to have such a rule.
Are you in charge of the forum now?
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I greatly enjoy studying the design,construction, and adornment of the leather gear on this forum, and would miss a lot of great photos if we went to "dead poets" only.
On the other hand, makers asking their customers to pimp for them kinda sets my teeth on edge.
I trust the site owner and moderator to figure out where to draw any lines.
I'm hoping that when I finally get around to making some holsters for myself and a friend or two--not for sale--I can post them here to solicit constructive criticism and suggestions for improvements.
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Are you in charge of the forum now?
Not at all :-). Rather, a suggestion from an ordinary forum member, to
John as the moderator, to prevent the whole holster subforum being closed. Which is what is being considered if we all cant find a workable method that satisfies the forom owner. I have to believe other constructive suggestions will be welcome :-)
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Not at all :-). Rather, a suggestion from an ordinary forum member, to
John as the moderator, to prevent the whole holster subforum being closed. Which is what is being considered if we all cant find a workable method that satisfies the forom owner. I have to believe other constructive suggestions will be welcome :-)
I didn't see where he asked for suggestions. He reminded us of the rule in place.
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Generally the appeal of the Smith forum is historical? So a Shield gets attention but it's knowing more about Registered Mags that fulfills :-)

So I'm thinking Dead Poets Only, as to holster makers. Company has to be out of business, and like getting on a stamp, not a living person (a dead poet).

Easy to enforce, by deleting a thread about the products of a living maker. Would be "a point of difference" for the Forum, as no others use this benchmark.

I suggest this as a living maker, and it wouldn't bother me any to have such a rule.
Probably not your best idea . . .
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Simple solution,

Just ban the members and their shills, who persist in abusing the Gunleather forum. If you look back to last summer's posts in the forum it is clear who the main offender was who created this situation. It's sad that because of the abuses of principally one member, others can't share.

I'd love to be able to see examples of Red Nichols advant garde work (even though I can't afford his work). But, since he's a member here, one has to go elsewhere.

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I'd love to be able to see examples of Red Nichols advant garde work (even though I can't afford his work). But, since he's a member here, one has to go elsewhere.
Did I misunderstand something?
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Perhaps you are unaware of the numerous posts of member's leatherwork that have been deleted following the abuse of the forum that resulted in the sticky at the top of the page.
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It is my understanding that "nothing" shall be for sale or business solicited on any of the forum's "except" the Classifieds. If someone wants to inquire of a maker, there is the PM function. What is difficult about this?
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Interesting. Never realized that talking about a holster might be a violation of the rules. I kind of like people asking and talking about the various holsters that they may have for their particular handgun and why they like it. And pics are a plus ta boot.

But hey, I guess it is safer to just ask what your gun is worth over and over and over...
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I didn't see where he asked for suggestions. He reminded us of the rule in place.
So when there's a persistent problem on the forum, don't make a friendly suggestion for its remedy unless specifically tasked to. Got it.
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Interesting. Never realized that talking about a holster might be a violation of the rules. I kind of like people asking and talking about the various holsters that they may have for their particular handgun and why they like it. And pics are a plus ta boot.

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So when there's a persistent problem on the forum, don't make a friendly suggestion for its remedy unless specifically tasked to. Got it.
This wasn't aimed at you. Go back and read some of this cat's earlier posts. You'll understand.
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I'm surprised this has not been locked.
I'll just say I wish it had not come to this, I love seeing all the holsters.
Since I dabble in leatherwork I'm always interested in seeing new stuff from makers that are still breathing as well as the vintage ones.
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Turnerriver's original post seems self explanatory to me and I would put great trust in a man who provides such a logical and eloquent explanation. Like Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart opined in 1964, I trust Turnerriver will fairly recognize an indiscretion when he sees it.
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Back when we could post our own stuff I'd do it for two reasons. One, to just swap ideas with people like a bunch of friends sitting around talking. The 2nd reason? Self promotion if anyone was interested in having a holster made. Recently I slipped one into a "theme" holster thread about fancy holsters. I didn't mention I made it but just wanted to share (I actually hate that word "share") designs. It was not meant to be self pimpin', so I guess it fell into the "occasional" category.
Even though I've slipped up a lot here for many reasons and got banished to the RG Industries website for a while, I will not complain about whatever rules anyone comes up with on THEIR websites that I choose to visit.
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Turnerriver, you just gotta realize that holsters to us is like shoes to women. Sometimes we just can't help ourselves. That's why we have a drawer full of them. We even keep them after the gun is long gone.
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