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Photo below left, clockwise starting at the top, are maker marks:
Eubanks Leather, Pioneer Company, Eubanks Pioneer, and Idaho Leather.

2nd from left: Royal Eubanks started his company in 1939.
The holster was made sometime between 1939 and 1949.
Cartridge belt by Lawrence, S&W Model 10 4", Marbles Damascus knife.

3rd from left: Pioneer Company had been in business much
longer. Legal name was Pioneer Tent and Awning. They made
all kinds of canvas and leather products and marketed them
throughout the Northwest. Although I believe they made
holsters, including the one shown here, I don't believe they
had the quality or volume that Eubanks did, so they bought
Eubanks. Mexican gunbelt, S&W Model 10 4", Schrade knife.

4th from left: Eubanks sold to Pioneer in 1949 and gave them
a 5 year agreement to not compete. Pioneer started using
the mark EUBANKS PIONEER LEATHER. My apology to the
maker for my amateur re-lacing job. The gun is a Colt's Agent
with Craig Spegel stocks, Lawrence gunbelt, Bear knife.

5th from left: Upon expiration of the covenant to not compete,
Royal Eubanks went back into business as IDAHO LEATHER.
But Royal died shortly thereafter and his widow sold to a friend,
Bud Wetzel. Bud's son, Ben Wetzel ran the company up until
December 2016 when he passed away. I don't know yet if
there is a future for Idaho Leather. Gunbelt is from Cowtown,
gun is Colt's .45 ACP, knife is from Case.
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You had me at Makers Mark thinking it's about whiskey. :-)

Mighty fine set of holsters.
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Maybe it should have been about whiskey. It would have generated
a little more interest?
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I found it interesting. I can add a few marks if you'd like.
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Photo below left, clockwise starting at the top, are maker marks:
Eubanks Leather, Pioneer Company, Eubanks Pioneer, and Idaho Leather.

2nd from left: Royal Eubanks started his company in 1939.
The holster was made sometime between 1939 and 1949.
Cartridge belt by Lawrence, S&W Model 10 4", Marbles Damascus knife.

3rd from left: Pioneer Company had been in business much
longer. Legal name was Pioneer Tent and Awning. They made
all kinds of canvas and leather products and marketed them
throughout the Northwest. Although I believe they made
holsters, including the one shown here, I don't believe they
had the quality or volume that Eubanks did, so they bought
Eubanks. Mexican gunbelt, S&W Model 10 4", Schrade knife.

4th from left: Eubanks sold to Pioneer in 1949 and gave them
a 5 year agreement to not compete. Pioneer started using
the mark EUBANKS PIONEER LEATHER. My apology to the
maker for my amateur re-lacing job. The gun is a Colt's Agent
with Craig Spegel stocks, Lawrence gunbelt, Bear knife.

5th from left: Upon expiration of the covenant to not compete,
Royal Eubanks went back into business as IDAHO LEATHER.
But Royal died shortly thereafter and his widow sold to a friend,
Bud Wetzel. Bud's son, Ben Wetzel ran the company up until
December 2016 when he passed away. I don't know yet if
there is a future for Idaho Leather. Gunbelt is from Cowtown,
gun is Colt's .45 ACP, knife is from Case.

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Thanks Bruce. Have you seen THE PIONEER COMPANY mark before?
Any other different ones for Eubanks, Eubanks Pioneer, or Idaho Leather?
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Looks like Boise, Idaho was a holster maker's hotspot!
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Still is boykinip. Milt Spark's crew is still here.
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Phil:

Thanks as usual. Great stuff. I don't have any famous holsters (yet), but I love learning about them.

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Thanks Bruce. Have you seen THE PIONEER COMPANY mark before?
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I don't believe I have any Pioneer, and only one Idaho, which I recently acquired. I have have several Eubanks, I will have to sort through and look at the marks.

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I really like vintage holsters. They can be a thing of beauty and function. I have collected a few, but do not have any from the companies crazyphil showed in this thread. Unfortunately, funds are limited and I put what I have towards the big 3 companies. But, that is not to say that if I find one I really like at a good price, I would not try to add it to my collection!
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I really like vintage holsters. They can be a thing of beauty and function. I have collected a few, but do not have any from the companies crazyphil showed in this thread. Unfortunately, funds are limited and I put what I have towards the big 3 companies. But, that is not to say that if I find one I really like at a good price, I would not try to add it to my collection!
Thats one thing good about Eubanks, et. al.
The quality is there but the prices have not gone through
the roof yet, like the big 3.
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Phil:

As a result of this fine thread, I now have a wonderful Eubanks holster for my Colt 1903 .32!!! I have started a thread at Didn't have any "Famous" Holsters!!

I want to again thank both you and the anonymous donor who saw my post #8 above, and very thoughtfully gave me this holster:



Oh, yes, I wanted to show the Makers marks on the back of the holster:



Needless to say, I am elated!!!

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An original Eubanks, maybe made by Royal himself.
Sometime between 1939 and 1949.
The 32A means 32 caliber automatic that's why it fits so well.
It was made for your gun.
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Would be interested in some pics I can see. bought a holster today in an auction lot. Maker's mark is Eubanks Pioneer Leather Boise, Idaho. Found where it is their mark from 1950-1972. Dark brown basket weave w/ white wide stitch.

Over the oval maker's mark - LLA. To left of the oval 89. Below the mark 32A.

little shocked that a S&W K frame fits holster very well, except for the strap. Can anyone confirm that this one is for the Colt 1903 32 Auto? Thanx!
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LLA makes me think Llama, who made .32 pistols. Wouldn't be surprising if the smaller Colt autos fit, too.
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.... Can anyone confirm that this one is for the Colt 1903 32 Auto?
A picture will give some of us a visual clue as to whether a holster was intended for a revolver or auto loader. Can you post a pic or two?

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Oscarflytyer.... We lost our photos here on the forum when Photobucket kidnapped them and are holding them for ransom. I am trying to find the ones that I had posted in #12 above, and will replace them. Keep checking back....

Edit....Pics of a Eubanks for the Colt 1903 .32 are up again in post #12....with the maker's mark ....you will see that mine is marked 89 and 32A as you say yours is. I would venture to say that it would fit your 1903 just as you see mine in post #12 citing in my older version.

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Would be interested in some pics I can see. bought a holster today in an auction lot. Maker's mark is Eubanks Pioneer Leather Boise, Idaho. Found where it is their mark from 1950-1972. Dark brown basket weave w/ white wide stitch.

Over the oval maker's mark - LLA. To left of the oval 89. Below the mark 32A.

little shocked that a S&W K frame fits holster very well, except for the strap. Can anyone confirm that this one is for the Colt 1903 32 Auto? Thanx!
crazyphil is our Eubanks expert here. Post up some pics for him; in the meantime everything he's told you will be dead-on correct because no one knows more about his hometown brand than he does :-).

It is not unusual for DA revolvers to fit auto holsters. There's a pic of an auto stuck in a Brill floating around on the web that confuses the heck out of newbies to the brand, because Brill auto holsters are designed distinctly differently from their revolver holsters (so it's obvious that the combo is 'wrong').
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Nice holster! I'd like a longer flap like Elemer did, just to chop UP to unsnap when quick and in a hurry.
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Well...the strap on mine was longer, but it is a "vintage" holster, and the longer strap has worn off just at the snap. I know it's a collector item, but I am going to have the strap replaced or repaired one day to make it more usable. I agree with you, JayFramer.

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Oscarflytyer.... We lost our photos here on the forum when Photobucket kidnapped them and are holding them for ransom. I am trying to find the ones that I had posted in #12 above, and will replace them. Keep checking back....

Edit....Pics of a Eubanks for the Colt 1903 .32 are up again in post #12....with the maker's mark ....you will see that mine is marked 89 and 32A as you say yours is. I would venture to say that it would fit your 1903 just as you see mine in post #12 citing in my older version.

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Everyone's happy but -- I'm suspicious about the fitment for two reasons: the snapped up strap is noticeably loose, in an era when that just wasn't done; and on the backside is a bulge of leather at the top of the welt that might serve a purpose on a revolver but is actually in the way on an auto.

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By default, I guess the style 820 is my favorite. Right to Left : 820/K22, 820/45, 820/MP, 820/380.

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I'm sure you can replace that strap yourself Les. I have replaced them,
and if I can, anyone can. The only difficulty is putting the snap cap on
the replacement strap. First one I did, I went to the Tandy shop. They
sent me to the saddle shop that I have used ever since. An older used
piece of bridle strap will look better than a new strap. And you can
tighten it up and make the party pooper happy.
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Thanks, Phil... I still like you and the party pooper!!!

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I have examples of Eubanks leather, Eubanks Pioneer Leather and Idaho Leather Corp. in my collection. I'm quite fond of them. For bruce5781: here is a Model 820 that I recently purchased.
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Oh,my, that's the handsomest Eubanks I've ever seen. Phil is right, these are under-appreciated collectibles.
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I have good pics, but no hosting service. Any other way to post pics? Or can someone post them for me?

I don't have a 32 Colt. Got this one in an auction and trying to determine what it is exactly, what it will fit and what it is worth. Thanx
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Go up to the top line, click on Search. Try HELP WANTED,
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Photos of the holster I have
Very nice holster, and good job of posting photo too.
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any help on what it fits? And what the value is?
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db is very good at telling what gun will fit and he said Llama.
.32 automatic. I'll go along with that.
Prices are not as high as the big 3, but yours looks like a nice
one. I will guess an auction might bring you something between
50 and 100, but remember I said might.
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Thanx! Appreciate the help.

But, I give up! Who are the Big Three? Assume Heiser is one/#1?!?
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Thanx! Appreciate the help.

But, I give up! Who are the Big Three? Assume Heiser is one/#1?!?
Heiser, Myres, and Lawrence are sometimes referred to as the
big 3 (of collectible holsters).
Nothing official. Perhaps Brill should make it the big 4?
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Finally got to check the size against a small auto. One in pic is a Walther 32 PPK. Should fit most 32/380s.
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So update. Gun in the holster is actually a German Walther PP 32. And about 2 months after this pic, it was offered to me for sale (fortunately before I sold the holster!). So now I have a perfect match! Very happy!
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the 32A holster also fits the 1914 Mauser .32 auto very nicely.
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One each for a Ruger 4 5/8" .357 (So Marked) and a Colt Officers Model Target . Colt holster is an Idaho .

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