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Charles “Chic” Gaylord and Paris Theodore (Seventrees Holsters) were both holster makers in New York City in the 1960s and 1970s.
Gaylord’s designs were taken over by “Lefty” Lewis of Bell Charter Oak holsters; Seventrees design rigs are now made by Ken L. Null.

Some of these holsters are unmarked but are Gaylord rigs as best I can determine, partly based on stitching recognition by “Red” Nichols as explained in another thread on the Forum.

Though not marked, this appears to be a Gaylord Treasury Thunderbolt.
An interesting feature is the leather piece situated in the bottom portion of the belt loop.
This slightly forces the bottom of the holster away from the body while slightly forcing the upper part of the gun into the body.
This prevents the gun from “hanging” or flopping away from the body at the uppermost part.




This is another Gaylord rig; I believe it’s a model of the Federal Speed Scabbard for K-frame guns.



A Gaylord Defender inside the waistband holster for the Government Model .45. This has a faint Gaylord stamp on the top.




Unusual Seventrees marked paddle style rig for a revolver; probably designed as a Small Of Back holster.






Seventrees Model RSS for J-frame. This was made by Ken Null; he told me he used this stamp until 1975 when he moved to Georgia where he now operates.


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Those original Gaylord and Seventrees are very scarce.
I have a few reproductions. Below left to right:

RSS (Revolver Super Speed) by Ken Null

Gaylord Combat Speed Scabbard by Lefty Lewis dba Bell-Charter-Oak.

Gaylord Speed Scabbard by Thad Rybka.

Gaylord Speed Scabbard by PWL (Price Western Leather)
When I first saw PWL's version on their PWL-USA site they
called in an eightball. I pointed out to them that the eightball
was Chic's style of a pocket holster. Eight in the side pocket.
Get it? BTW the piece is Ruger's SP101 .357 with Crimson Trace,
the belt by Milt Sparks, the knife a Junkyard Dog II by Kershaw.
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Some I have/had:

Gaylord and Seventrees 1911 holsters




Gaylord Luger holster




Seventrees J-frame holster (compared to B-M)



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Neat rigs, -db-!
The Gaylord Luger Holster has to be one of a kind.
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The Gaylord Luger Holster has to be one of a kind.
That's one I've parted with but yes, I would assume there weren't many made, not only because it's for a Luger but the belt loop is very small, an inch or less if I remember correctly. Someone wanted a good holster that could be worn on a thin dress belt.
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The little folded-up Seventrees reminds that Paris was seemingly obsessed with making his designs from a single blank. You will see this in most of his models and in his drawings of new designs and in his patents, too.
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Thank you guys for sharing images of these two makers work. Both pretty scarce.
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That's one I've parted with but yes, I would assume there weren't many made, not only because it's for a Luger but the belt loop is very small, an inch or less if I remember correctly. Someone wanted a good holster that could be worn on a thin dress belt.
The trousers belts of Chic's era were always narrow, about 1" wide. It was the '70s that brought us wider belts, derived from the hippie culture of the period.

Which reminds me, in reviewing my copy of Chic's 'Handgunners Guide', I was surprised to see that he considered Tom Threepersons' holster to be perhaps the best ever; though there's no indication that he understood the role of the welts in a Threepersons because Chic did not use them.

Chic's book, encountered in a public library in Oakland in 1966 when this young teen moved there from London, England, is what inspired me to be a holster designer/maker. Oakland, as an aside, was a venue right out of the original Dirty Harry films then.
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Another eBay-advertised "unknown", I got this Gaylord Missouri Skintite in today. I was hoping it would fit my USFA SAA clone but it's sized for one of the smaller frame SAs.



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Chic tells us, in his book, how to make the Missouri Skin Tight holster.
I made this one for fun. Don't tell me. I know I won't make it as a
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